1.9 american block for S2 RST
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1.9 american block for S2 RST
Ill jump straight to the point. I've got a S2 RST and have gone through 2 CVH engines. I am after a 1.9 american block. Does anyone know the best place to go to get one. And what else do i need to get, or would you reccommend i get in able to run the 1.9 block.
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How much cheaper is the ZVH and the zetec? And whats the difference in power? Cause i've heard you can get quite a bit out of the 1.9. But i would rather go for the cheaper option but still have the power if you know what i mean.
I've tried specialised engines website to get prices but their websites down at the mo. Typical.
I've tried specialised engines website to get prices but their websites down at the mo. Typical.
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I think the 1.9 bottom end is about £2000 if I remember right
Heres a link to a zvh bottom end on ebay but not sure how good they are
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zetec-turbo-Zv...QQcmdZViewItem
Heres a link to a zvh bottom end on ebay but not sure how good they are
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zetec-turbo-Zv...QQcmdZViewItem
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euro engines also do a 1.9cvh.............a bottom end fully built with uprated bearings, steel rods, forged pistons and new water and oil pumps ready for a head of your choice is just a touch over £1700 + vat.
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ZVH isnt that dear...find a 2nd hand 2.0 zetec, get some pistons/standard rods, rebuild it...plug the water ways on the front of the block and an adaptor plate for the water pump, pretty much it!
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That ZVH looks pretty clean. Just ashame i aint got the cash right now. At least now i know roughly how much i've gotta spend. Cheers for the link mate.
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I might try that euro engines. How much am i roughly looking at for a quality head? Soz about all the questions. This is my first time in the tuning and rebuilding world. LOL.
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Badboy RS - You wouldn't reccommend specialised engines then? Have you had a bad experience with them? I see you've got a 2.1 ZVH in your beauty. Have you ever had any problems with it?
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vrooooom ptsssssh - I didn't really want to go for a second hand engine. Im someone that worrys alot and i'd be constantly paranoid something was gunna go wrong with it. But thats just me. I've had a second hand 1.6 CVH put in mine just to get me around and it really doesn't sound like its gunna last long. The bottom end sounds really knocky.
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vrooooom ptsssssh - I didn't really want to go for a second hand engine. Im someone that worrys alot and i'd be constantly paranoid something was gunna go wrong with it. But thats just me. I've had a second hand 1.6 CVH put in mine just to get me around and it really doesn't sound like its gunna last long. The bottom end sounds really knocky.
you need to buy it 2nd hand to obtain it, then rebuild it with lower compression pistons!
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the zetec bottom end is prob your best bet for all out power, more parts available off the shelf too compared to a 1.9cvh. its also a more modern engine. oh and by the way i run a 1.9cvh american tall block from specialised.
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So if i was to buy a second hand ZVH, what parts would i have to rebuild. The pistons, rods, bearings, pumps. But what else?
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You'd get the block faced and machined/honed for the pistons
youd buy main cap bearings
big end bearings
pistons
rings
oil pump
and gasket/seal set
Im doing a ZVH, as I already have all the parts, but a full zetec will be a better engine, but i'd still do a zvh over a 1.9 cvh all day long.
youd buy main cap bearings
big end bearings
pistons
rings
oil pump
and gasket/seal set
Im doing a ZVH, as I already have all the parts, but a full zetec will be a better engine, but i'd still do a zvh over a 1.9 cvh all day long.
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I spent alot of hard earned cash at specialised and it lasted all of 3 months ( low comp 1600 )
phoned them up and they didnt wanna know
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Not had any problems with the zvh i love it, shit loads of torque
phoned them up and they didnt wanna know
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Not had any problems with the zvh i love it, shit loads of torque
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Well i only have to get told once. Ill stay clear of them. Ill just have to search around for another place. Christian from automotive performance tuning reccommended a place called Torque of the devil. I might try them. Dont know where they're based though. You heard of them?
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You'd get the block faced and machined/honed for the pistons
youd buy main cap bearings
big end bearings
pistons
rings
oil pump
and gasket/seal set
Im doing a ZVH, as I already have all the parts, but a full zetec will be a better engine, but i'd still do a zvh over a 1.9 cvh all day long.
youd buy main cap bearings
big end bearings
pistons
rings
oil pump
and gasket/seal set
Im doing a ZVH, as I already have all the parts, but a full zetec will be a better engine, but i'd still do a zvh over a 1.9 cvh all day long.
Sounds expensive but im sure its worth it. Ill just have to start looking round to find an engine first. Then the fun part will be actually saving up the money for it. LOL.
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hello mate have a look at this website got my block from they no probs at all the blokes called nathan
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
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hello mate have a look at this website got my block from they no probs at all the blokes called nathan
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
Nice one mate. Cheers for the link.
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hello mate have a look at this website got my block from they no probs at all the blokes called nathan
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html
Had a look at that site and the prices are pretty good. Alot cheaper than i thought. With a 2.0 ZVH, do you reckon a T4 turbo will be alright or would i have to get a T3?
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Emailed him last night. Just wait for his reply. Dont suppose he's working weekends is he?
Another question. Do you reccommend anywhere where i can get the car undersealed and also the engine bay re-sprayed? Preferably somewhere that takes the engine out for us when they spray, then put it back in. Sweet.
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no i dont think he works weekends. most spray shops would do the engine bay and underseal mate do a google in your local area and ring around for the best price but it would be alot cheaper taking the engine out yourself and towing the car there or asking them if they can collect it
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I also spent a lot of money at Specialised and basically ended up with completly knackered engine. Workmanship was very poor and service was crap!
Stay well clear of them
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Hi seen this thread on here thought i would just offer my services i build zvh and zetec turbos if your interested i had a company before but my partner let me down so i have started again by myself its www.powerconversions.co.uk just building website so you will only find it in the top search bar it takes about six weeks to show on the search engines google etc. Happy to help any fellow ford nut.
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Hi seen this thread on here thought i would just offer my services i build zvh and zetec turbos if your interested i had a company before but my partner let me down so i have started again by myself its www.powerconversions.co.uk just building website so you will only find it in the top search bar it takes about six weeks to show on the search engines google etc. Happy to help any fellow ford nut.
So far i've got a price from zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk:-
2.0 zvh bottom end - £620
Conrods and arp bolts - £350
Diamond forged pistons - £400
T4 turbo - £300.
I would also eventually upgrade the head too.
Thanks again.
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no i dont think he works weekends. most spray shops would do the engine bay and underseal mate do a google in your local area and ring around for the best price but it would be alot cheaper taking the engine out yourself and towing the car there or asking them if they can collect it
Ill try google searching it.
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No worries let me know if your wanting some quotes, let me know what spec you are wanting to run ie power wise, managment, intercooler, the best way is to start with a good strong bottom end if your planning on upgraded bits at a time.
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I would also like forged pistons and some steel conrods. But dont know whether to save a bit longer and get them the same time as the engine or get the bottom end first then at a later date get the extras. What would you reckon?
Appreciate you taking time to help us out.
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Hi pal i personally would not fit a t4 to a zvh i think it would be too much for an 8 valve head and too lagy, a tricked up t3 or a t34 max or then your other route would be gt28 or gt30, you need the turbo to spin up nice and quick but have enough to pin you in your seat lol, but you can match all this together when you decide what spec the rest of the engine will be ie head work, cam etc. One big aspect you need is reliability so steel rods and forged pistons will make a good strong solid bottom end. I can build you one with PEC steel rods and wossner forged pistons running at 8:2:1 compression which is the same as a standard cosworth it can run up to 24psi but i ran at 20psi with great results and reliable, can do other compressions to suit if needed. Cost wise i could do one for around £1500 ready for zvh or full zetec turbo. You can email me at www.powerconversions@hotmail.co.uk if you fancy chatting about which way to go and what spec to run regards it all ie head, cam, gearbox etc. Drop us a email if you have any questions big or small cheers Chris.
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T4 turbo - £300.............. not a chance mate... double that price at least.
T4 is way too big for any zvh or zetec conversion unless your aiming for over 350bhp.
T4 is way too big for any zvh or zetec conversion unless your aiming for over 350bhp.
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Hi pal i personally would not fit a t4 to a zvh i think it would be too much for an 8 valve head and too lagy, a tricked up t3 or a t34 max or then your other route would be gt28 or gt30, you need the turbo to spin up nice and quick but have enough to pin you in your seat lol, but you can match all this together when you decide what spec the rest of the engine will be ie head work, cam etc. One big aspect you need is reliability so steel rods and forged pistons will make a good strong solid bottom end. I can build you one with PEC steel rods and wossner forged pistons running at 8:2:1 compression which is the same as a standard cosworth it can run up to 24psi but i ran at 20psi with great results and reliable, can do other compressions to suit if needed. Cost wise i could do one for around £1500 ready for zvh or full zetec turbo. You can email me at www.powerconversions@hotmail.co.uk if you fancy chatting about which way to go and what spec to run regards it all ie head, cam, gearbox etc. Drop us a email if you have any questions big or small cheers Chris.
Tried emailing you to your hotmail address but for some reason it didn't send. Tries sending it twice. Is there another address i can send it to or do you want me to post what i wrote on here? It's quite a long email. LOL.
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Try wardchris5@hotmail.co.uk i dont know whats wrong with powerconversions@hotmail.co.uk it seems to be working ok how odd lol never mind.