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Old 14-12-2004, 12:43 PM
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he's still goin out the back tho marty

hope we don have to resort to dirty tactics by lettin watty do the drivin tho
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any updates?
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205 GTi's are f**king nice cars
Old 16-12-2004, 10:25 PM
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Hopefully some proper updates this weekend, (fitting seats, diff, ordering more parts etc)

The brakes have got to go back as one side GTi-6 and one side normal 2.0 306 is no use (smaller piston and disc diameter), means I got to waste yet more time sorting brakes out Not very happy about that, but even more suprised for the poor lady I cought them off, as it was a Peugeot dealer who changed one of the calipers on her GTi-6 and replaced it with the wrong one!
Old 23-12-2004, 01:46 AM
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hi mate thats some nice projects where you from in stoke from lightwood myself
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I'm from Newcastle way, I used to live near Lightwood, at Meir Heath on Sandon Road a good 8 or 10 years ago

I'm now half way through fitting the new diff. I pillaged the 1.6 box for the shorter final drive and fitted that to the diff. I will then use the combination of 1.9 Gear ratios and 1.6 final drive which should give me pretty much the ultimate setup without going custom (the 1.9 has a longer first gear than the 1.6).

I don't know how much people charge to do the clutch on a 205 but it must be a lot I've spent 2 (fiarly lazy) days pulling apart the car and the gearbox still isn't off! I've removed inlet manifold, fuel rail, battery, battery tray, all air filter stuff (even that is awkard on a 205!), starter, hundreds of hoses and god knows what else.

According to Haynes ( ) the GTi is the only 205 that doesn't need the engine to come out to change a clutch!

Either way its an annoying, fiddly pain in the arse!
Old 29-12-2004, 10:32 PM
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keep the good work going

205's truely are awesome machines
Old 30-12-2004, 05:05 PM
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Always nice to see this kinda projects
I've got an XR2 wich i like to mod, but the money won't let me if it doesn't get better
Old 30-12-2004, 11:37 PM
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fook your keen well done m8
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I don't know how much people charge to do the clutch on a 205 but it must be a lot I've spent 2 (fiarly lazy) days pulling apart the car and the gearbox still isn't off! I've removed inlet manifold, fuel rail, battery, battery tray, all air filter stuff (even that is awkard on a 205!), starter, hundreds of hoses and god knows what else.

According to Haynes ( ) the GTi is the only 205 that doesn't need the engine to come out to change a clutch!

Either way its an annoying, fiddly pain in the arse!
jesus there was no need for all that. airflow meter and battery only lol looks good tho mate
Old 16-02-2005, 07:30 PM
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Gearbox is still in, the reason it wasn't coming off is that the offside driveshaft is stuck solid in the diff I've got the diff casing off and dismantled the innards of the diff, but haven't had time to get a decent extension bar through to whack it out! Thats all that is left holding the box on I think

What a nightmare and i'm too busy to finish it at the mo Should be on track later in the summer I hope
Old 12-03-2005, 04:36 PM
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Gearbox is off and the new diff is built up. Just waiting to pick some new diff bearings up from Bernie (gearboxman) who is massively cheaper than buying them from Peugeot (They also take over a week to get them in from when you order!) Fitted the Griffiths Engineering gear linkage kit, so that should reduce the throw a bit

Also need a new o/s driveshaft as i've managed to crack the centre bearing somehow! Might as well stick a new clutch in there whilst the gearbox is off. I also took the rear engine mounting / centre bearing carrier off to get a better bushing fitted, maybe even solid mount the engine. This should make the gearchange better and stop the engine moving so much I guess!

Diff with 1.6 final drive fitted:


A pair of BE1 gearboxes:


Even with half of it removed the engine bay is still a mess
Old 28-03-2005, 09:05 PM
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hi phil
i jumped in here for a look to see if you've been up to anythin much cos i was chattin to marty earlier bout goin back to germany

i'm thinkin of gettin my big front brakes fitted soon then was wondering about a wider rear beam...you know owt? is it that much better and helps with understeer?especially if stripped and less weight in rear?

if i do the brakes and beam i might get 2 cheap buckets...or even just 1 for me cos im selfish ... and then go tan you round the nurburgring

whats next for you? MI?
Old 28-03-2005, 10:28 PM
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Hi mate, just got the gearbox back on today! What a bloody mission (space is a bit tight and the gearbox aint light at all!) Now using a 1.6 box with Quaife diff = top speed about 120mph on the limiter

Inlet manifold gasket should be in tomorrow, and I need a new driveshaft (cracked the centre bearing ) also hope to pick up an uprated lower engine mount in the next day or two so it all gets stiffened up a bit. Picking the subframes up tomorrow as well, then all I need is harnesses and to fit this plate i've made for the sunroof! Hope to have it driving again by the end of the week, before i head back to uni to finish my disseration and my final exams

I also stuck all the interior on eBay in the hope someone will come and take it away so I dont have to make a trip or two to the dump

Old 28-03-2005, 11:46 PM
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It was'nt your car i sore then it was very close to yours tho F plate With Black 1.9gti rims and bright red In the oxford area But looking at the pics it cant have been yours
Old 29-03-2005, 12:53 PM
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Nope definitely wasn't me (like I would drive ont he road with slicks )

Chop, wider rear beam is just a 309 gti beam. No idea what difference it makes! I guess more grip..
Old 29-03-2005, 02:29 PM
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Well i did'nt think you would been on the road with the slicks ect
Old 30-03-2005, 09:07 PM
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Todays progress:

Rebuilt N/S inner CV joint
Cobbled a load of new water/oil/vacuum pipes together from bits off my old cossie
Setup the quickshift kit
Bought a new O/S driveshaft
Picked up and fitted an massively uprated lower engine mount (as good as a solid mount!!) Getting the old bushing out of the engine mount is a nightmare of a job with only a hacksaw, screwdriver and a hammer!

Tomorrow should see it all back together and running again including an oil change and I get my subframes on Friday so I can take a test drive
Old 03-04-2005, 01:53 AM
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Ok, here goes a slightly drunken attempt at RingPug update...

The interior has been colllected and all gone!

Car is now fully running with 1.6 gearbox, Quaife diff, stripped out, new oil, oil filter, fuel filter, fuel line, track rod ends, wishbone pinch bolts, gearbox oil, Griffiths engineering quickshift, strut brace, relocated battery and I de-greased the interior from the previous seound deadening...

Here is my attempt at a 205 CSL:





It is really the template for my new roof panel which is being cut this week

Current interior:


Exterior:


This then reminded me to get rid of the fog light mounts ready for some brake cooling ducts, so out came the angle grinder on the fron bumper:




Here is a pic of the two toys in the garage as present:


Things left to do:
Bucket seat subframes (still waiting!!!!)
5 point harnesses
Fit new sunroof replacement panel
Suspension
Rolling road setup (ignition timing is well out)
Roll cage

Track days!!!!!!!
Old 03-04-2005, 08:18 PM
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Old 03-04-2005, 08:25 PM
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:44 PM
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Cheers

Will be a while until my next update as the deadline for my dissertation submission is just over 1 week away Then I have my finals after that, then no more uni/exams ever

Just lots of messing with cars and track days!!! And i'll even be able to finish the mk1 Escort
Old 10-04-2005, 06:34 PM
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Just wondering m8 how did you refurb the wheels ? good luck with the project looks like it coming on great
Old 11-04-2005, 01:07 AM
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Hi mate, I sanded them down to the bare metal (using a combination of power tools ) then went to the local motorfactors and bought a couple of tins of primer and some matt black paint.

Just made sure I gave them plenty of coats of each I wasn't too fussed as they are only track wheels, if I cared about them much i'd get them sandblasted and powder coated personally
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good man cheers
Old 13-04-2005, 10:19 AM
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hello phil
sorry i always forget when i post in here
project is comin along nicely

mine is still same as but really gettin the itch to get them brakes on

fine weather means the bike is number 1 now

chop
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Chop, you coming to Central day?

Namely the hotel session on Saturday night? Should be a good one
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oooooooooops clearly im not coming then

i was at the local granite city rally instead

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Well, the 205 will be on track at Croft RS day at the start of July - looks like i'd better get my arse into gear and finish it! Need to fit a cage, harnesses, gti-6 brakes, battery box, some wet tyres and sort these bloody subframes out!
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12 months later and I finally got off my arse and sorted it

Had a monster sesison on it in the last week and it is booked in for the MOT tomorrow, so i will update with some pictures!

For now here I was fitting Gti-6 calipers, discs and pads in the snow!



And here is one seat test fitted



It now has both seats fitted along with Sabelt harnesses etc

Also had 4 Eagle F1 GSD3's delivered today for road/wet track use £32 a corner including delivery from mytyres.co.uk Bargain!!!
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Eagle F1s are fitted and alignment done, it feels much better now (and going from 185/55/15 remoulds to 195/50/15 Goodyears I should bloody well hope it does )

Lets hope it passes the MOT
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sweet gd luck on mot day
Old 09-03-2006, 08:32 AM
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I was considering one of these with an Mi16 engine for the 'ring this year myself

nice work
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Well it failed

One rear brake not working Going to reset the caliper, wind the piston back and bleed etc, if not it might be the compensator.

Rest is fine though
Old 09-03-2006, 03:07 PM
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looking good matey, shame it failed its mot, maybe because its french , keep up the good work
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Ordered some new parts for it today!

309 GTi rear beam (20mm torsion bars (18.9mm are std), 50mm wider track and a 20mm ARB gives a 42% increase in roll stiffness at the back end along with improved turn-in characteristics and an increase in grip to rebalance after loosing so much weight over the rear axle)

I also have 2 new brake compensators to pass the MOT

And solid rear beam mounts, along with uprated gearbox and upper engine mounts (already have the group a near solid lower engine mount!)

All this should lead to a might stiff car with some teeth loosening vibrations Then it is ready for uprated shocks front and rear along with adjustable camber top mounts
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:42 PM
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looks good chap

i considered getting one of them last year
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i meant to ask you did you get the black wheels powder coated
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I just wire brushed them back to bare metal with an angle grinder, sprayed em with bog standard halfords spray on primer and then matt black spray. I didn't think it would last but when fitting the slicks none of the paint came off and they have been bashed around in the garage and are still fine Plus a re-furb is only a £5 spray can job!

Picked up the uprated rear beam today, fitting it tomorrow so I promise some more pics then


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