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Old 22-03-2008, 10:10 AM
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Amazing work Cyril, as Kelv said your preperation is outstanding!!

As the saying goes, measure twice - cut once!

Old 25-03-2008, 05:02 PM
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did you do any work on the car over the weekend . i think if you stick at it it might just work
Old 25-03-2008, 05:19 PM
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he told us in another forum that he didn't do anything on the car this weekend because a good friend of him need the place to paint his Hyundai
Old 25-03-2008, 05:34 PM
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i am stunned reading this thread i take my hat off to you Cyril, the workmanship going into this is truly amazing and i cant wait for the next up date
Old 25-03-2008, 10:19 PM
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Thanx Billy and Andy...

Kiesi is right... this and next weekend we are painting two cars... so I am sorry that the next update follow in 2 weeks...

But this gives me the time to think about the upcoming work... There are so many details where I have to make my thoughts...

I'll keep you informed!
Old 27-03-2008, 11:19 PM
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awsome work fella looks you know youre shit are u going to put a roll cage in it
Old 28-03-2008, 09:32 AM
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Thanx mate...

yeah... I ordered a Wiechers rollcage and should arrive in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I also ordered a stack display and a few other goodies... Can't wait to hold the parts in my hands...
Old 28-03-2008, 11:42 AM
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cool project
2 questions:
1st being over 20 years old, isn't the mkIII TuV exempt? Meaning you can basically do what you like?
2nd I see you used a 4x4 estate. The semi-trailing arms shock lowermount on an estate is very different to the lowermount Sapph/Hatch Sierra's. How have you solved that?
Old 28-03-2008, 12:37 PM
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Hey Remko...

no... it doesn't matter how old a car is... every technical change on a car must be checked by the TÜV...

Concerning the semi-trailing arm... I put in just for testing the complete axles, beams and stabilisators... and everything fits perfectly... At this point I can't tell you what should be different...
Maybe, the 2WD ist diffirent to the 4WD... I took a 4WD estate...
Old 04-04-2008, 12:17 PM
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little parts update:

Bosch 023 Intank fuel pump and Stack display just arrived...

The 044 fuel pump and rollcage should arrive next week...



Old 04-04-2008, 01:26 PM
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Not pretty but very very functional!!! Good work chap!!
Old 04-04-2008, 01:55 PM
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Wholey shit...Fantastic JOB.... will be one hell of a wicked motor when it's done..keep it coming
Old 05-04-2008, 03:32 PM
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That's one hell of a project Cyril,respect to you

Viel Glück dabei
Old 08-04-2008, 02:44 PM
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Thanx alot guys... I try to do my best... at this point, I stoped working on the shell... The front part is nearly ready for welding.
But the rear axle causes some problems... I already have a solution, but before I continue, I have to talk with my TÜV engeneer... Some major modifications are necessary... He will hopefully come next week, so meanwhile I will continue on putting the Sierra bonnet vents into the MK3 bonnet...

This arrived today...

Old 08-04-2008, 06:00 PM
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whats the problem with the back axle ?????

are you not useing the sierra one????
Old 08-04-2008, 07:51 PM
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because of where the rear seat is in the escort the rear beam is firther back which makes the wheels sit further back
Old 08-04-2008, 08:44 PM
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no... that's not the problem jacko...

The rear beam is quite wide... and I have to cut a little bit out of the sill (is it the right word???)
From the technical side it's not a problem, but before I start to modify it, I have to talk with my TÜV engeneer...

for those people, who didn't know what the German TÜV is, just have a look at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TÜV

Every part of the car, where I am going to weld, has to be discussed before with the engeneer... That's the only way to build up a road legal car...

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Old 08-04-2008, 09:40 PM
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cyrill my axle has has about 6mm cut off each end and the floor has been noched out on the sills, but i see your problem with the tuv
Old 08-04-2008, 10:09 PM
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Yeah Wenny.... That's what I thought also... to cut each end as much as possible and to notch a little bit the sill... BUT: as the sill also acts as a kind of longitudinal chassis beam, it must be discussed before... But I think it should be nor problem, as it is quite at the end of the sill... you know what I'm talking about Wenny
Old 08-04-2008, 10:19 PM
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yes mate i know what you mean, mine has like a sqaure section on each side
Old 09-04-2008, 05:04 AM
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Better save than sorry
Old 09-04-2008, 09:23 AM
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Cracking work!
Old 09-04-2008, 10:06 AM
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Hope it goes all right with the engineer. Again this is going to be an amazing car!!!
Old 09-04-2008, 10:52 AM
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No difference between 4x4 and 2wd estates. Rear trailing arms are all the same on ALL estates. But they're different from Sapph/Hatch trailing arms because of the way the shock is fitted to the trailing arm. Compare this one to the one you used:
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You can see the shock mount all the way to the back unlike on an estate.
The carriers are all the same so you can swap trailing arms easy enough.
Old 09-04-2008, 02:13 PM
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ahh, ok... now I know what you mean...

Just the front part is from the estate... the rear axle is from the Saph, with the shocks fitted on the rear... so everything should work fine
Old 09-04-2008, 03:00 PM
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top project mate looks the bollocks
Old 10-04-2008, 08:04 PM
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ye i see what you mean now

you can just about see on the bottom of the pic were wennys car has been altered to get the axle to fit
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:10 PM
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mine has the same cut out to so does daves s1 4x4 just didnt think that would be a problem but you lot have some funny laws you could always put a wrc rear in then you wouldnt even need to remove the rear boot floor at all
Old 10-04-2008, 08:36 PM
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wrc money tho lol
Old 10-04-2008, 09:55 PM
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Yeah... quite expensive... Let's wait what my TÜV engeneer will say...
Old 10-04-2008, 10:00 PM
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I think you've seen Werner - Beinhart

I think he will say: "Wolln sie mich verschaukeln?" first,
then he will say: "Und das soll ich ihnen abnehmen?"
and then: "Cosworth, Cosworth, so'n Humbug, hau'n sie ab mann!"
and at last he might say: "Schluß jetzt mit dem Zirkus, verlassen sie augenblicklich das Gelände!!!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BxsNp6SbS8
Old 10-04-2008, 10:39 PM
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I just had to post this, as I've been racking my brains trying to think who Cyril Sneer was....


And then I remembered!




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Originally Posted by XR2
I think you've seen Werner - Beinhart

I think he will say: "Wolln sie mich verschaukeln?" first,
then he will say: "Und das soll ich ihnen abnehmen?"
and then: "Cosworth, Cosworth, so'n Humbug, hau'n sie ab mann!"
and at last he might say: "Schluß jetzt mit dem Zirkus, verlassen sie augenblicklich das Gelände!!!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BxsNp6SbS8
speak english boy lol
Old 11-04-2008, 08:20 AM
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Theres always great progress everytime i look any news with the TUV.

Nath
Old 11-04-2008, 09:56 AM
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@XR2: I hope not But I'm quite confident that he will give his ok... He already inspected the car and the way to build in the cossi parts a few months ago... before I started the conversion...

Yeah Rab: That's Cyril Sneer :-D My first name ist Cyril... so all my friends just call me Sneer... But believe me: My nose looks much better :-D
Old 11-04-2008, 10:14 AM
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Professional work, a clean car, no problems with the standard things like brakes, lights etc. help a lot to legalize modifications. And being polite is always useful

Never had any big problems with the TÜV. But I'm looking forward to hear what they think of our trijekt injection
Old 11-04-2008, 01:25 PM
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dont mean use gen wrc stuff just build your own like a zoo one or ag has on his new focus its just a way of mounting it and with much better waight saving and adjustmant
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Yeah Jacko... I know what you mean... but also this kind of solution must be discussed with the engeneer... we will see...
Old 12-04-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyril Sneer

Yeah Rab: That's Cyril Sneer :-D My first name ist Cyril... so all my friends just call me Sneer... But believe me: My nose looks much better :-D
LOL


I'm glad your nose is better. I'm also glad your engineering is as good as your nasal attractiveness
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awsome project mate keep the pics comeing!!


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