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Ag motorsport carbon focus cossie **** bhp time attack sept 2013

Old 01-05-2013, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Hi trev, then why is it fair that norris can shorten his wheel base, removing doors in the process, turn his engine around, tub the front end and use skyline transmission parts but Charlie can't modify his front suspension (which I beleive was the issue first time around.

One would argue that you cannt run a wrc escort due to the modified rear turret pick up points but I'd bet my last pound they would allow it..
I agree with you there Jimbo, how does the Norris evo run is beyond me.

Also how does The Infinity Focus of Dave Jackson qualify, surely it has no original focus floor pan and turrets, obviously running a yb with seq box etc etc.

Doesnt the AG focus use genuine door/side panel appetures and a gen ford tranny tunnel, regarding the kit which is a gen m-sport carbon jobbie, i bet 95% in TA run carbon/fiberglass panels also.
Old 02-05-2013, 07:42 AM
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Guys sadly this has always been the case with this car for some reason they dont want it there & i know they go on about rules but they are for one & not another ! if my memeory serves from about page 5 on this thread its been a issue in 2007
Old 02-05-2013, 09:59 AM
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Any updates or new pics of the two AG focus's? Life has been dull without these two beasts in action!
Old 02-05-2013, 11:52 AM
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Its not a fucking space frame. An rs200 is a space frame where you can lift off the front and rear. It is a home built shell

It is completely OEM as it has never been altered since the manufacturer built it. No where in the regulations does it state the car has to be built by a leading car manufacturer.......

It is an AG MotoRSport focus..... Not ford

At least all my body panels are homologated by the FIA which is more that can be said about all the bodykits in TA
Old 02-05-2013, 11:58 AM
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I have finally worked it all out.........

My car does what it says on the tin.......

800 horse no bullshit turns up and kicks ass.

All the bullshit tuners claiming 900 1000 horse couldn't possible let me run as it would show them up for being full of shit.

Andrew built the shell woopy do, surly ford or mitsubishi or Ollie Clark with big money backing have built a better one, the focus weighs in at 1170kg so whats the big deal.

Surly the spirit of time attack isnt to get touring car drivers into drive your car, hows that fair. its all fucked up from end to end.
Old 03-05-2013, 08:23 AM
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The pics on the general discussion say it all..

The ag focus is a space frame through and through!!

There is many modified chassis if you include the likes of wrc rear tubs etc but the difference between a space frame car and a modified saloon is night and day full stop..

For example the rsr mk 1 escort is a full space frame car with 400 hp and can do brands indy in 48 secs lap after lap..
the fastest escort cosworths are at leat 2 secs a lap slower with 200 hp more!

A normal mk1 mk2 escort chassis car with a 400 hp is no where near the 48 secs and more like late 50s.

The rules state no space frame and thats exactly what the ag focus is!! its built on a space frame..

As said above it will need to run in a special saloon or space frame class and although always a rapid car it will deffo have more contest then
Old 03-05-2013, 02:40 PM
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Go race it in the thundersaloons if it complies with those rules. I'm not sure who still gets touring car drivers in, I suspect your targeting Paul at Zen who had Phil Glue ( I think it was ) driving his Subaru many years ago. Zen do not run a car in TA anymore

I love the Focus but rules are rules.
Old 03-05-2013, 04:16 PM
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Maybe Andy will build a rule-compliant Focus or Fiesta and enter Time Attack just to blow them all away! (doubt it but you never know!)
Old 03-05-2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RSTurboTrev
The pics on the general discussion say it all..

The ag focus is a space frame through and through!!

There is many modified chassis if you include the likes of wrc rear tubs etc but the difference between a space frame car and a modified saloon is night and day full stop..

For example the rsr mk 1 escort is a full space frame car with 400 hp and can do brands indy in 48 secs lap after lap..
the fastest escort cosworths are at leat 2 secs a lap slower with 200 hp more!

A normal mk1 mk2 escort chassis car with a 400 hp is no where near the 48 secs and more like late 50s.

The rules state no space frame and thats exactly what the ag focus is!! its built on a space frame..

As said above it will need to run in a special saloon or space frame class and although always a rapid car it will deffo have more contest then
Not correct exactly, rod birley is doing 48s and stuart white with one of our high 600bhp engines is doing 48 on his first three laps there in the car and think 47 is possible!
Old 03-05-2013, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cossiemaster
Its not a fucking space frame. An rs200 is a space frame where you can lift off the front and rear. It is a home built shell

It is completely OEM as it has never been altered since the manufacturer built it. No where in the regulations does it state the car has to be built by a leading car manufacturer.......

It is an AG MotoRSport focus..... Not ford

At least all my body panels are homologated by the FIA which is more that can be said about all the bodykits in TA
RS200 is not space frame, they have a platrorm chassis with frame work to support some of the bodywork, suspension mounting points are part of the chasssis (shock absorber top mounts are not) on your focus the suspension mounting points are part of tublar frame.
I still think they should let you compete.
Did they not outlaw the Westfield ?

Steve
Old 05-05-2013, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Not correct exactly, rod birley is doing 48s and stuart white with one of our high 600bhp engines is doing 48 on his first three laps there in the car and think 47 is possible!
rod birleys best lap at brands is a 50.02..ever and thats hes local track ..
Old 24-06-2013, 03:27 PM
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Great to see they are finally allowing this to enter the time attack series this year, even if it is only certain rounds where space is available, about bloody time
Old 24-06-2013, 03:53 PM
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Just off the phone to charlie there
Old 24-06-2013, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RSTurboTrev
rod birleys best lap at brands is a 50.02..ever and thats hes local track ..
That record was broken by the skylines and then himself a long time ago, they very quickly went into the 49s and I'm sure they're in the 48s now!
Old 24-06-2013, 05:40 PM
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great news about TA
Old 24-06-2013, 06:04 PM
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What rounds is Charlie doing ?

Marc
Old 24-06-2013, 07:53 PM
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Awesome :0)
Old 27-07-2013, 07:09 PM
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Old 27-07-2013, 07:33 PM
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Proper!!!

Will you be coming to brands with the car and Charlie Andrew?
Old 27-07-2013, 07:39 PM
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loved that
Old 27-07-2013, 08:45 PM
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This is gonna be entertaining!!!!

Best of luck racing, from a fabrication point of view its an absolute credit to your skills.. hopefully get to see it at some point soon...
Old 27-07-2013, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
Proper!!!

Will you be coming to brands with the car and Charlie Andrew?
For sure
Old 27-07-2013, 09:04 PM
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Wow thats mint.Love this car and its nice to see its still going well.
Old 27-07-2013, 09:23 PM
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that is amazing and didnt even seem like he was caining it... didnt seem to be holding it in gear i mean.

Awesome car!
Old 27-07-2013, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewg
For sure


Sweet. Few beers the night before?
Old 27-07-2013, 10:45 PM
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Defo !
Old 28-07-2013, 06:42 AM
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We camping over then Ronald? :0)
Old 28-07-2013, 06:58 AM
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I love watching this going round silverstone, I did have a video of it chasing the black gt40 race car a couple of yrs back
Old 28-07-2013, 08:52 PM
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Will this be at Ford Fair this year?
Old 25-09-2013, 07:53 PM
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Is the car going to be at Donington for Time attack this weekend? Would I be right in saying there is a new spec engine going in?
Old 25-09-2013, 08:02 PM
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its time attack at brands this week end ,donnington was a few weeks back
Old 25-09-2013, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by G60rallye
Is the car going to be at Donington for Time attack this weekend? Would I be right in saying there is a new spec engine going in?
think they are working on the car now, should have one or two extra ponnies, paddle shift etc etc.

Bring on Brands!!!!!
Old 26-09-2013, 10:07 AM
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Old 26-09-2013, 10:09 AM
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Old 26-09-2013, 10:32 AM
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That looks like it's not standard.....
Old 26-09-2013, 10:54 AM
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Awesome just awesome.
Old 26-09-2013, 11:17 AM
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Fancy a straight swap.Your engine for mine?????.

That turbo is huge.
Old 26-09-2013, 06:06 PM
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Is that an alloy block as well? Looks megga with the new turbo on, I take it that it dyno'd over 1000bhp?
Old 26-09-2013, 08:01 PM
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Looking good mate
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hi andy are you slowing down in your old age , why is it not fitted yet

thanks steven

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