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BlackSaff 28-04-2009 06:38 PM

Cheers Paul,

Won't be using a Swedish plenum, i've looked into most of these and they have a fatal flaw from what i've seen of them. I don't think i'll worry about moving the engine to the N/S. Did you try putting a 2wd manifold on yours then?

When am I gonna see some pics of your project then? You've not got any on here or BSC. :D

costina 28-04-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSaff (Post 4114188)
Cheers Paul,

Won't be using a Swedish plenum, i've looked into most of these and they have a fatal flaw from what i've seen of them. I don't think i'll worry about moving the engine to the N/S. Did you try putting a 2wd manifold on yours then?

When am I gonna see some pics of your project then? You've not got any on here or BSC. :D

Yes i did back in 1999 but could not make it fit:cry:

Here is some old pics

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Just a bare shell atm and bits everyware:roll::cry:

Paul

BlackSaff 28-04-2009 09:30 PM

Thanks Paul. I like that ALOT. :D

costina 29-04-2009 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by BlackSaff (Post 4114790)
Thanks Paul. I like that ALOT. :D


Thanks :grin: what wheels and brakes you going to use?

I was running cossie 283mm discs with mondeo calipers Front
then it was 324mm focus RS discs and calipers(which i sold to a m8 for his capri) and 18" focus rims!!
now i using 324mm focus discs and pug 306 coupe brembos again with focus rims

rears was 273 cos discs and calipers and both were on my own designed custom brackets

But i wil say that the first set of brake were very good indeed and would lock at 3 figures:shocked:

Paul

cossie4i+ 03-05-2009 09:35 PM

On mine i had a Godspeed 300mm front brake conversion which used cossie 4pots, this fitted under 15 inch wheels
On the back i had 2wd cossie rear discss

Steve

Tom_Cortina 03-05-2009 09:42 PM

looks nice clean base to start from this is a thread to keep our eyes on :D

leecavturbo 03-05-2009 10:54 PM

Reminds me off me dad Rip and his :top:
sure it was a crusader ? what were the others called?
shown an indicated 123mph on the m69 going to leceister late 70's i guess

cossie4i+ 06-05-2009 09:21 PM

Any updates on the beast ?

Steve

BlackSaff 23-05-2009 01:44 PM

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Right then, let's have an update.

Well if you remember the engine mounts I was making templates to strengthen, i've finally got round to cutting them out of 3mm steel and welding them to the mounts. So here they are all finished and painted ready to do their job.

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Here they are fitted to the block along with heavy duty 55mm rubber mounts.
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Still in the design frame of mind i've been trying to work out what front braking and suspension setup i'm going to use. First of all let's start with the brakes. I don't want to have bigger wheels than 15" on the car therefore this limits to a degree which brakes I can use (nothing bigger than 300mm), I've decided to use standard Ford Sierra Cosworth 2wd front 4 pot calipers. Here they are compared to the standard Cortina caliper.
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You can see the increase in stopping power i'm going to have up front. Here is the Cortina front stub axle.
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Here is the stub axle along with the Cortina hub aswell.
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Here we have the first problem. As you can see on the back of the hub in the picture below there are 4 locating lugs around the outside of the rear of the hub. (Hub on the right in the picture). The original Cortina disc is supposed to bolt up to the REVERSE of the hub. My larger discs are now going to be mounted in FRONT of the hub. This means I will need longer wheel studs which isn't an issue. I had a problem with regards to the new discs won't fit over the old hubs as they're too wide in diameter.
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After an hour in the engineering shop, problem solved. I've had the lugs removed from the back of the hubs as I don't need them and also the diameter of the face has been turned down by 20mm on the overall diameter.
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Then a quick dry test fit back onto the stub axle and next thing will be working out which discs to use to best suit the caliper.
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costina 23-05-2009 03:21 PM

Sweet :grin:

55mm engine rubbers??? i'm going to measure mine now;-)

btw we need to talk props

you will need a 45 degree chamfer on those hubs mate(depending on dia they are)

Paul

costina 23-05-2009 05:17 PM

You can use sierra/granada 3 studs;-)

Paul

cossie4i+ 25-05-2009 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by costina (Post 4167020)

btw we need to talk props

Paul

Do not get a ONE piece prop made, they are a waste of time and money. You will also knock the rear oil seal out on the gearbox in 5 minutes.

Been there done that etc

Steve

Matt Baxter 26-05-2009 06:36 PM

St170 front discs are 300mm x24mm dia

cossie4i+ 07-06-2009 05:09 PM

Any updates ????

Steve

BlackSaff 12-06-2009 06:12 PM

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Ok, it's update time again.

I brought the car into the shop today and decided to strip her down some more. Got lots done on it.

Removed;
-Front and rear screens.
-Steering column.
-Wiper motor and linkage.
-Rear Qtr outer panels.
-Bonnet cable and housing.
-Brake pipes.
-Fuel lines.

I then started removing some of the wiring loom metal tabs in the engine bay, the brackets for the washer bottle and header tank and then cut the battery tray out as i'm going to put this in the car. After cutting them out and grinding the welds off I cleaned them up and primered them to keep them from rusting. I want to try and keep the engine bay looking as smooth as possible to keep it nice and neat. I didn't get the whole battery tray cut out as the angle grinder decided to break. I turned my attention to the inside of the car and started removing the sound deadening in the footwells. Horrible messy sticky stuff this, wasn't happy to find a big rotten hole on the drivers floor.

Front end minus everything now including the screen
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Rear screen out and also the rear quarter trim panels
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O/S engine bay with brackets and wiring tabs cut out
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2062009927.jpg
N/S engine bay with the majority of the battery tray removed and the washer bottle bracket.
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Driver footwell with sound deadening removed only to find a big hole.
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A couple more updates coming up very soon, one for engine and one for braking.

cossie4i+ 12-06-2009 06:17 PM

Great to see some more progress

Steve

BlackSaff 29-06-2009 10:35 PM

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Little update time,

Collected my Cosworth engine parts from NMS at the weekend and started putting them together slowly.

These are standard Mahle Coworth 0.5 oversize pistons much like the ones I bought.
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I sent mine to NMS and this is how they've come back, they've been machined out to reduce the compression ratio to 7.5:1 and had valve cuts put in.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...9062009948.jpg
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I put the pistons onto the rods which have been balanced and have had new little end bearings fitted, I fitted the pistons onto the rods like so.
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Then comes my new sump, as the car is going to be used on track I've gone for a big wing sump. It should hold approx 6 litres of oil now (2 litres more than before)and should hopefully prevent oil starvation by collecting in the outer wings and not being able to splash to one side on heavy cornering. The take off is a -12 for the oil breather return. I'll get a lick of paint on it soon.
Standard sump.
http://www.rscosworthbreakers.co.uk/...s/DSC_2105.JPG
My Big wing sump.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...9062009943.jpg
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The baffle holes in the sump that lead to the wings.
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Only a little update but just to show it's all still moving forward slowly.

cossie4i+ 30-06-2009 09:23 PM

Don't you need a gate in the sump ?

Steve

BlackSaff 30-06-2009 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by cossie4i (Post 4241742)
Don't you need a gate in the sump ?

Steve

You can have gated or ungated mate.

cossie4i+ 01-07-2009 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by BlackSaff (Post 4241878)
You can have gated or ungated mate.

I can't see the point of having it big winged then, if your going to use it on track a lot i would get it gated.

Steve

Glenn_ 01-07-2009 05:05 PM

It seems like its been ages and i forgot about this project.Its nice to see its still in progress.Keep up the good work.

costina 05-07-2009 02:58 PM

Looking good m8:top:

Paul

col cos1 05-07-2009 10:04 PM

good work but as above get gates in the sump or pointless otherwise,apart from expensive services

BlackSaff 08-07-2009 04:35 PM

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New update time.

Today I had a spare hour so I decided to fit the Pistons and rods into the block. Thoroughly cleaned my work bay and got started. First job I made sure to clean the block thoroughly as it'd been sat a little while. Once clean, I found the piston ring compressing tool and cleaned and lubricated the inside of it. Then lubricated the bores of the block to fit the pistons and rods in making sure that my rings stayed the 120degrees apart they should be.
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So after taking my time got them all nicely slid into the block.
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So then it was time to connect them all up to the crankshaft. For this bit i'm going to need these. Vandervell .25 Big end bearings and a set of ARP rod bolts.
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I turned the engine over and started cleaning the rod and crankshaft journals. I then fitted the bearings into the rods and caps, lubricated the shells and the journals and fitted them all in one by one. Torqued up my rod bolts and hey presto.
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Flipped the block back over and here you have them all fitted into the bores. Span the crank over once and all is well.
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That's enough for today, so I mask up the block face to try and protect it and put it back in the corner.
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Thanks for looking ;)

cossie4i+ 21-07-2009 09:17 PM

Have you had chance to do any more ?

Steve

Mk45dr 25-07-2009 06:47 PM

am only 19 and always had a thing for these.. great project

slimwynn 25-07-2009 09:04 PM

good job :smile: nice to see somthing different being restored

TurboShed 27-07-2009 05:23 AM

Great thread :)

Tondeur 27-07-2009 08:38 AM

what a great project

i have to say it though im shocked you`ve ripped apart that motor
should be in some old guys garage waiting to go to a museam.

i grew up beeing taken to school discos in these!

Tony

p/s can i ask why the winged sump in my head the only thing i can see an advantage is greater oilcapacity would help with keeping the oil temp lower but surely oil coolers cover that

excuase my ignorence

James_RScos 29-07-2009 12:47 PM

Great work mate, love your projects the black sapph was great, this is going to be amazing, i really want a toy with a cossie engine in it.

cossie4i+ 30-08-2009 02:51 PM

Any more news on this beast ????

Steve

BlackSaff 04-09-2009 06:22 AM

No updates yet.

Work is still being carried out on it but it's boring bits like removing sound deadening etc. Also went over to the dark side and bought myself a Skyline R32. Going to get into a spot of drifting for fun.

marky_g 04-09-2009 07:33 PM

cool project there

cossie col 04-09-2009 08:13 PM

think the crusaders were 2 tone blue top of car silver at boyyom this is why you have blue on doors, used to have one years ago. great project mate keep up the good work

cossie4i+ 30-10-2009 10:48 PM

Any news on this beast ?

Steve

bil 01-11-2009 03:05 PM

Very nice job. I wanna see the body paint.

cossie4i+ 03-11-2009 05:52 AM

:up: again, we need a update :DD:

Steve

cossie4i+ 09-11-2009 08:19 PM

And again

Steve

Zetecfiesta 09-11-2009 09:12 PM

still looking foward to some updates!!

cossie4i+ 14-11-2009 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Zetecfiesta (Post 4507685)
still looking foward to some updates!!

Me too

Steve


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