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Gotta love big revs on a YB - now with FFD goodness

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Old 06-05-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasu
Original rods holds over 500hp with orig. bolts and I know that those bolts are weakest link. You can take +700 with orig. rods + proper bolts. However, they do not last forever. Nothing does.
Who's best for uprated bolts?
Old 07-05-2012, 06:49 PM
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That dragster is quick on page 2.
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Old 13-02-2013, 10:29 PM
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Thaaaaat is fucking amazing.

Jealous.
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paul thats as good s it gets in a saff lol
Old 13-02-2013, 10:36 PM
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It's ruined by being a brown car though James
Old 13-02-2013, 10:38 PM
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sweet box but surly its more suited to a track car?
Old 14-02-2013, 06:25 AM
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Awesome
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Originally Posted by James-W
Out of interest and this is just aimed at sparking a debate and hearing tuners views

the 550-650bhp usually quoted as the limit for the rods, where does this come from?

Have tuners tested to destruction, I know its hard finding on different specs with reliability over a certain amount of miles.

or is it a threshold just over rs500 btcc power that is just assume to be near the limit.

Has anyone ever gone to 700 on standard rods reliably?
Well, if you think of it this way;
Engineers design parts to withstand a certain load amplitude (tensile and compression / or only tensile) over a number of cycles (ups and downs). When you exceed the load amplitude for a given component; that means more power, the number of cycles to failure decrease dramatically, which is shown when rods brake at high hp / rpm engines.
The reason why the rods in the cossie-engine withstand as much as they do is due to engineers didnt have finite element simulations when designing components in the 80s, they just designed them in a good manner (way overkill on 200hp).

The crank-design on the YB is actually great for high rpm as it has only 1 counterweight per cylinder. This lowers the natural frequency of the crankshaft aswell as lowering the crank inertia and bearing loads. However double counterweight cranks as most uprated ones are is actually better on lower rpms as they increase bearing loads (they got more inertia / heavier); but then again they are stiffer and more balanced.

You should take it to an experienced tuner to get some info on what to do with your engine.

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Old 14-02-2013, 04:37 PM
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Atleast the Cossie rods are forged steel and look tough as f**k. Here's some pictures next to Saab (B204?) rods:









Atleast it looks like you need a 1000 lb bomb to break those but who knows.

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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
It's ruined by being a brown car though James
i thought it was pink paul............my mistake
Old 14-02-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
i thought it was pink paul............my mistake
Pink, Brown - same difference
Old 14-02-2013, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Pink, Brown - same difference

Try telling my missus that
Old 14-02-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MONSTER
Try telling my missus that
lmfao
Old 14-02-2013, 07:28 PM
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Sounds awesome, get flat shift on it aswell
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