danny-boy

Hi all, im looking to buy an ep3 shape civic between 2001 and 2005. Im just wondering what changes were made during production years and at what year? are the 2004 models much better then the 2002 models etc?

Thanks in advance,

Dan.

murfs frst

Different bumpers,lights,seats,slightly different shade of alloys and lighter flywheel,might be sums more but can't think of anymore.Great cars so reliable

danny-boy

So mainly cosmetic then? does the lightened flywheel benefit the car much? What im trying to get at really is if i bought a 2002/3 type r, would i kick myself about not getting a 2004 type r? Im replacing my fiesta rs1800, and ive heard nothing but good things about the type r and it seems like alot of car for you money! Thanks for the reply.

Dan.

murfs frst

I would go for the facelift model in cosmic grey myself,face lift looks better,fly wheel makes little or no different if I'm honest,drive one before you buy one,some people don't like that u have to get them up the rev range to get the best out of them,me myself I think there a great car.hope this helps

J1mbo

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Just got back from the nurburgring in one of these, bog standard and such a fantastic car, very arse happy and turn in fantastically.

Vtec is a little high on them, 6krpm to 8250rpm is the decent working power band, so you have to really work them hard, it feels strange at first being used to fords that rev to 6500rpm but these take it and love it all day, we did 25 laps which is 325miles of hard use!
The gearbox is amazing too so it's not difficult to keep it singing.

I don't think you will be disappointed

dombloke

Does a lightened flywheel reduce engine torque over a standard flywheel due to the lower weight?

Ben26

25 laps ! WOW. Expensive ? Did the R have any tyres and pads left .

danny-boy

That sounds pretty amazing! i doubt my rs1800 could handle many laps anymore. Yeah the 'power band' being at high revs is literally the only bad point ive heard, the rest is pretty amazing! from what i can see i could pick up a fairly decent one for 3 grand now, and with close to 200bhp that sounds like a good deal!

Im just not sure whether to go for a facelift or not, and whether the lightened flywheels is worth batting an eyelid over...

Thanks for the replys,

Dan.

danneth

I miss the gearbox on my ep3 !

J1mbo

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490 euros in laps for three days

Between two its not bad though really.

Brakes were hating life but we were going a bit steadier on them than normal, we wernt there to set records like.
Tyres were fine too, did a few wet/damp laps too but yeah it alot of wear really!

When you know the place a bit you don't have to use the brakes so much anyway, bang it down a gear or two is normally enough for alot of the corners there

slammed106

jimbo!! your still alive!!!.... lmao... ive found no end of pics of the red rocket!! .....

J1mbo

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Ha!oh yes, just pm'd you back bud!

andy130

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great cars but they do give bother, grinding gears, gearbox are around 400-600, wraping discs an cluches, but buy a good one an you shouldnt have any bother, they go well with a air filter/decat/map

J1mbo

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Gearboxes only go if your being a complete animal andy, a guy I know done two in his dc5 (same box) by rushing third badly. They're such a fast change there's no need to smash through the gears.

My mates just had a clutch in at 100kmiles

And we never warped disks all weekend at ring, the juddered but cooled down and were good as gold again! Gen disks and pads though, only way to go before upgrading.

Filter, exhaust and k pro ecu/map and they go good and sound awesome

Just see the red one on Facebook is that yours andy?

andy130

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my mate aaron has one jim, the things iv said about you will only get on a car that has been abused an not taking care of,

i wise it was mine jim a chap in belfast owns it, nice motor,
your escort looks cool now mate

J1mbo

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Sweet looks well fella.
Yeah the little rs2000 is looking well now