bike carbs on zetec
02-01-2006, 09:28 PM
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bike carbs on zetec
may be purchasing a RS1800 fiesta this week with a 2ltr zetec fitted. i thought about turboing it but like the idea of the bike carbs which seems to be getting popular now.
all fabrication work will be done locally.
what happens to the existing ecu etc?
is it still needed for spark etc?
i aint got a clue with this kinda thing!
where is best bit to get bike carb? roughly how much? what kind etc?
all fabrication work will be done locally.
what happens to the existing ecu etc?
is it still needed for spark etc?
i aint got a clue with this kinda thing!
where is best bit to get bike carb? roughly how much? what kind etc?
02-01-2006, 09:49 PM
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there is a garage called bogg brothers (father +2 sons) near scarborough who have done this conversion loads of times, they will be the best peple to speak to.
Bogg Bros Ltd
01944 738234
The Garage
Malton, YO17 8TG
just found the number
steve
Bogg Bros Ltd
01944 738234
The Garage
Malton, YO17 8TG
just found the number
steve
03-01-2006, 07:29 AM
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yes he did.. or get on to turbosport.co.uk - there's a whole section on zetecs including a guy called RChambers who did exactly what you're thinking of in his mk2 escort. 
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03-01-2006, 09:44 AM
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Bogg Bros did the one in the picture. Its an RS1600i so the ecu and coils were retained for ignition. Fueling isnt done through ECU anyway on a 16i. They are carbs too not TB's Didnt Fudgeass use TB's, these are a different kettle of fish and much more complicated as they require management that can run from a TPS
03-01-2006, 11:13 AM
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Bike carbs and bike throttle bodies are two different things.
If you check out this months Fast Ford there is a 3dr with a 2.1 pinto running 38mm gsxr carbs. The manifold is home made and the carbs are spaced to suit.
You must bear in mind that these carbs are CV and therefore the bore is straight through. A 45 side draught will in fact run a 34 or 36mm choke.
I had helped setup the 3dr and have to say that the bike carbs are very easy to tune compaired to 45s. More like hi tech SUs.
I used a seperate dizzyless, coilpack mappable ignition on the 3dr.
If you check out this months Fast Ford there is a 3dr with a 2.1 pinto running 38mm gsxr carbs. The manifold is home made and the carbs are spaced to suit.
You must bear in mind that these carbs are CV and therefore the bore is straight through. A 45 side draught will in fact run a 34 or 36mm choke.
I had helped setup the 3dr and have to say that the bike carbs are very easy to tune compaired to 45s. More like hi tech SUs.
I used a seperate dizzyless, coilpack mappable ignition on the 3dr.
03-01-2006, 11:40 AM
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I'm sure Fudgeass will enlighten you when he eventually turns up for work. 
anyway - carbs - no, throttle bodies - yes
i use 45mm t/bs from a GSXR 750
cossie injectors and SECS S8 management.was pushing around 200bhp!
and some of the bodge, i mean build lol
spacers for them to fit zetec inlet
spacers for throttle linkage
longer tubes from modified fuel rail
blank injectors to be used as idle bypass
basic assembly
modded inlet manifold lol
modded fuel rail just to allow injectors to fit
assembled with air box
on engine with fuel rail and injectors
03-01-2006, 01:12 PM
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i like lots! bit more money involved in the conversion than i thought. doesnt look like she's gonna let me buy the car anyway as she wants the drive paved and a car would just be a waste of money. she must b sick of getting her feet dirty when she gets of her broomstick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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I have just sold my mk2 fiesta in which i done an r6 bike carb convertion.
I will soon be able to supply a zetec inlet manifold to accomadate carbs...
A set of re jetted ( not drilled ) carbs with internal work as mine did by Jekyl and Hyde
And if needed megajolt management running load for map.
Fitting will be avaliable.
Live maps also avaliable through Jekyl and Hyde.
May possibly do manifolds for cvh if there is enough interest.
But i will be able to supply and fit all the above cheaper than bogg brothers INCLUDING management.
Email bikebodies@hotmail.com for info.
I will soon be able to supply a zetec inlet manifold to accomadate carbs...
A set of re jetted ( not drilled ) carbs with internal work as mine did by Jekyl and Hyde
And if needed megajolt management running load for map.
Fitting will be avaliable.
Live maps also avaliable through Jekyl and Hyde.
May possibly do manifolds for cvh if there is enough interest.
But i will be able to supply and fit all the above cheaper than bogg brothers INCLUDING management.
Email bikebodies@hotmail.com for info.
22-02-2009, 07:10 PM
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22-02-2009, 07:16 PM
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Boggy"s will sort you out
What a great family they are , always go out of there way to help people out , and the 2 brothers Steve and Pete are great at what they do , and there Father , Dave , well you wont find a man on the planet that can set carbs up like him
They will be fitting bike carbs to my N/A cossie engine ( when i get round to building it ) lol
There about 10 mins from my house so if i can help in any way please ask
Paul
What a great family they are , always go out of there way to help people out , and the 2 brothers Steve and Pete are great at what they do , and there Father , Dave , well you wont find a man on the planet that can set carbs up like him
They will be fitting bike carbs to my N/A cossie engine ( when i get round to building it ) lol
There about 10 mins from my house so if i can help in any way please ask
Paul
22-02-2009, 07:24 PM
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Boggy"s will sort you out
What a great family they are , always go out of there way to help people out , and the 2 brothers Steve and Pete are great at what they do , and there Father , Dave , well you wont find a man on the planet that can set carbs up like him
They will be fitting bike carbs to my N/A cossie engine ( when i get round to building it ) lol
There about 10 mins from my house so if i can help in any way please ask
Paul
What a great family they are , always go out of there way to help people out , and the 2 brothers Steve and Pete are great at what they do , and there Father , Dave , well you wont find a man on the planet that can set carbs up like him
They will be fitting bike carbs to my N/A cossie engine ( when i get round to building it ) lol
There about 10 mins from my house so if i can help in any way please ask
Paul
Beg to differ when they charge Ł80 just to drill jets out on bike carbs and say thats good enough to run on a car.
My carbs had a hell of alot more done to them and the difference was fooking untrue.
Do like their manifolds though although the angle of the zetec manifold they do is too flat imo and mega expensive to usual people at Ł200.
22-02-2009, 07:39 PM
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" quote" Do like their manifolds though although the angle of the zetec manifold they do is too flat imo and mega expensive to usual people at Ł200. "quote"
i was just thinking that manifold was the wrong angle .
i was just thinking that manifold was the wrong angle .
22-02-2009, 07:48 PM
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The manifold above is for throttles bodies. It doesn't matter hat angle they are at.
Most people make the manifolds too flat. Modern bike carbs are usually designed to run at 45 deg or more.
Most people make the manifolds too flat. Modern bike carbs are usually designed to run at 45 deg or more.
22-02-2009, 07:51 PM
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1. manifold as above,injectors pointing at the opposite side of the manifold and at 90 deg to the head,so the air has to flow around that 90 deg
or
2, standard st170 injector manifold,with the injector pointing at the back of the valves,inlet manifold at 45deg to the head,air flow pointing at the back of the valves.
????????????
22-02-2009, 08:19 PM
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so what will work better? for throttle bodies.
1. manifold as above,injectors pointing at the opposite side of the manifold and at 90 deg to the head,so the air has to flow around that 90 deg
or
2, standard st170 injector manifold,with the injector pointing at the back of the valves,inlet manifold at 45deg to the head,air flow pointing at the back of the valves.
????????????
1. manifold as above,injectors pointing at the opposite side of the manifold and at 90 deg to the head,so the air has to flow around that 90 deg
or
2, standard st170 injector manifold,with the injector pointing at the back of the valves,inlet manifold at 45deg to the head,air flow pointing at the back of the valves.
????????????
There are alot of different ways people use throttle bodies mate and i would not like to say which was best.
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