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Old 01-11-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default how do i get my locking wheel nuts off?

right got a slow puncture and tried changing the tyre, but i can't cos the car hasn't got a locking wheel nut for the wheels.

How an earth am i gonna get these off?

there round design ones so even a socket over the top would just spin around. They have 3 dots across the top at 10'oclock mark 12'oclock mark and 2'oclock mark. The last little dot is at 6'oclock.

So they have 4 holes and the hole locking nut is just round no ridges around it or anything like that.

how am i gonna get all 4 off? Fricken hate these bloody things, would rather just have normal nuts on, its hardly likely someone is gonna jeck your car up often and nick your wheels anyway, more likely to loose the bloost little locking wheel nut.

cheers in advance guys
Old 01-11-2005, 03:49 PM
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:54 PM
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whats that again? the thing on sky adverts?

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Old 01-11-2005, 03:59 PM
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18mm shocket or if that slips off 17mm one blet it on with a GOOD size hammer (Club hammers the best like a small sledge hammer ) Then wind them off m8 Its worked 99% of the time for me

Ps make sure its muti sided btw
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Originally Posted by Alan s1
18mm shocket or if that slips off 17mm one blet it on with a GOOD size hammer (Club hammers the best like a small sledge hammer ) Then wind them off m8 Its worked 99% of the time for me

Ps make sure its muti sided btw
COULDN'T of said it n e better
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whats a multisided socket, the one that has loads of groves around it rather than just like a 50p coin design?

thing is this locking nut set is a perfect round circle, would this give it grip and hold it to bring em off?

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so what i want to use is a crappy socket as it'll proably get damaged doing this, correct?

cheers
Old 01-11-2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RScrew69
so what i want to use is a crappy socket as it'll proably get damaged doing this, correct?

cheers
try and get an impact deep socket
Old 01-11-2005, 04:09 PM
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i had to use a 21mm socket on mu mcgaurd ones

just get it square by tapping it on, then blet the c*nt

ps DONT miss or you will fuck the wheels
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the heavy duty kina black ones which are deep socketed and they have 50p coin design on there ridge design?
Old 01-11-2005, 04:14 PM
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so got to get the correct size first, foekin hate locking wheels nuts much prefer normal nuts. Worst thing is they have locking caps aswell, so why bother with locking nuts behind the caps! DOH!

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jack your car up a bit first to take the weight of the nuts then smack a socket on one size smaller that the nuts,worked all the time for me
Old 01-11-2005, 04:18 PM
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so got to get the correct size first, foekin hate locking wheels nuts much prefer normal nuts. Worst thing is they have locking caps aswell, so why bother with locking nuts behind the caps! DOH!
why bother? too make it as hard as poss for scum bags to take you wheels! thats why
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for the hedache and time i'm going to have to indulge myself, i would much rather just have normal nuts on and run the risk. Its not something that happens everyday, and i never leave the car far anyway, and its known locally, so no one would bother even thinking it, let alone trying it

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Yes m8 any type of socket tbh if you dont mind f*%king one use a normal muti sided on

Yoa may need to go 1 size down from whot fits the locker

Or if you gor a wheel brace the + type one they nomaly work well to
Old 01-11-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RScrew69
so what i want to use is a crappy socket as it'll proably get damaged doing this, correct?

cheers
Crappy socket will just split.

Seen my mate remove them loads of times using the method above.

He owns a breakers yard before I get flamed
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the normal nutts are 19mm, so i need to use a 18mm to slap on?

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Old 01-11-2005, 08:01 PM
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i had similar ones on the my car with no key when i bought it.

i used a 3/4" drive extention bar, TWATTED the ratchet end over the locker and then used a socket on the other end with a massive allen key....sorted! another idea to try if the others dont work!!

PS, dont bother trying to drill them out
Old 01-11-2005, 08:17 PM
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i know the ones he's on about, i've got them on my motor too
right bastids to get off if you lose the key because they have nowhere to grip to other than a bit poking out the top
if they are recesed into the wheel (the bolt holes that is) then you will be there forever
been there, done that

if you really want to get them off what you need to do is make sure you have a BIG drill bit (13mm minimum)
start off by drilling a 6mm hole in a bit of metal so you can centre the hole in the stud
then put the metal bit over the wheel and drill as deep into the stud as possible
you then get your big 13mm or whatever drill bit and just drill out the stud
ok, so it takes a bit of practice but 30 minutes of effort will get it off

once you have drilled deep enoug you can then twat it with a slim chisel to crack the nut and then just tap it round


of the other way to do it is to buy another set of those locking wheelnuts and then drill out the holes slightly so that the new key will lock into place over the holes, makes the nut useless again but hey, you're not really going to be worried are oyu
Old 01-11-2005, 09:10 PM
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go to a automotive specialist tool shop and buy a locking wheel nut removin tool impact socket with a left hand thread that screws on to the nut and gets them of in about 2 mins flat at around Ł30 its cheaper than a set of new wheels, im in the trade and it has saved me hours of messing about but check the size before you buy as some nuts are bigger than others
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but the locking wheelnuts he's got haven't got anyting to lcok onto
thats the problem

i'll see if i can get some pics of mine
Old 03-11-2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by * Rudey *
Originally Posted by xr-stu
PS, dont bother trying to drill them out
i second that 2 days 3 drill bits lots of b.o and only halfway down
sharpen the drill bit
only took me 30 minutes to go through the stud enough to get the nut off
but you are using one of them proper electric drills rather than one of them 12V jobbies right?
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You dont need to have any thing for the shocket to grip hold of as if the shocket is slightly smaller it will mold it self to the locker when you hit it onto it

I done this with a set of tri locking nuts (there round with the 3 holes in the middle type thing )

18mm is nomaly the one
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for all the people who are saying "put a smaller socket on it" can someone put up a picture of the locking wheel nut in question?

that way you will see that there is nothing for the socket to go onto!!!! it's a flat topped nut with a few holes in it and a spindle to locet the key onto

but yes, get the drill bit sharpened and it'll go through like it was butter
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dojj This is the closes i can find as the "tri" locking ones are old skool But they are the same on the out side
Old 03-11-2005, 07:33 PM
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yup
look very similar
just with ridges rather than hole in the outside

they do the job they are supposed to do, but they tend to do it a bit too well
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Dunno if this has been suggested yet and can't be arsed to read it all to see if it has either.

17 inch socket and a big hammer. Belt the arse out of it until it sticks on, then undo.
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
Dunno if this has been suggested yet and can't be arsed to read it all to see if it has either.

17 inch socket and a big hammer. Belt the arse out of it until it sticks on, then undo.
BLOODY HELL thats a big shocket

I think you mean 17 mm

And yes m8 i said about doing it that way but some times a 18mm is better
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Yeah, 17mm................ so tired, hence why I couldn't be bolloxed to read the whole post................
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