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Old 23-10-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Braking G- Force one for Porkie etc

...what G could my Escort with 6pot/356 discs pull?..Say stopping full on from 150mph....and what effect would this have on ones body who never done this before?

Just trying to work out how powerful these brakes actually are!
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Depends on the suspension - what have you got ?
Old 23-10-2005, 03:37 PM
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Pulling G is awesome, i've had a dabble at aerobatics



Love it!


As for pulling G in a car, Never really done it tbh
Old 23-10-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Freddy_mercury_magic
Pulling G is awesome, i've had a dabble at aerobatics



Love it!


As for pulling G in a car, Never really done it tbh
That really helped thanks Rad!
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Still fun tho lol
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i dont think you will ever do more than 1 G under braking,
i dont think even F1 cars do, do they?
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Pee Vee...i think F1 cars can pull G's braking!

...just wondered as i feel these brakes are immensley powerful!...didnt want to go too fast and slam on the brakes and pass out..ROFL
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What brakes are they Phil?

6 pot AP's?
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AP 6pot 356mm fully floating from Reyland.

...as i put in my OG post
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i dont think you will ever do more than 1 G under braking,
i dont think even F1 cars do, do they?
Pee Vee...i think F1 cars can pull G's braking!
Yes!! They most certainly can... more like 5G

...just wondered as i feel these brakes are immensley powerful!...didnt want to go too fast and slam on the brakes and pass out..ROFL
I wouldn't be too worried about that Don't be such a Just go and use them you tit
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....so does anyone know what G these brakes can pull?

All i getting is retarded answers

...or dare i say it...its one topic NOONE can give the answer ..dissapointed as normally a question has 50 different answers ROFL
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
AP 6pot 356mm fully floating from Reyland.

...as i put in my OG post
Oh yeah


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Originally Posted by pee vee
i dont think you will ever do more than 1 G under braking,
i dont think even F1 cars do, do they?
you will easily pull 1g under braking.... my yellow escort on nos pulled that on acceleration!
Old 23-10-2005, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
....so does anyone know what G these brakes can pull?

All i getting is retarded answers

...or dare i say it...its one topic NOONE can give the answer ..dissapointed as normally a question has 50 different answers ROFL
have you bedded them in first?
Old 23-10-2005, 05:06 PM
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PMSL @ the thought of passing out in a car that heavy on only road tyres just from the brakes

I wouldnt worry phil, you might go over a G but you wont get anywhere near enough to black out mate!
Old 23-10-2005, 05:20 PM
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Martin i have been driving about lightly using them for a good few miles...done the odd heavy stop from 30mph now though

So over 1 G I know nothing about this...obviously the passing out bit was a joke hence the ...i just thought full on braking from say 150mph may cause you to go a little lightheaded with these brakes...yes or no to that possibility..thats all i asking
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...oh and Martin i am sending those "items" back tommorrow!
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Martin i have been driving about lightly using them for a good few miles...done the odd heavy stop from 30mph now though

So over 1 G I know nothing about this...obviously the passing out bit was a joke hence the ...i just thought full on braking from say 150mph may cause you to go a little lightheaded with these brakes...yes or no to that possibility..thats all i asking

If you stand on them at 150 they will probably underwhelm you.

Those sort of speeds have a habbit of making ANY brakes feel like they arent working well enough!

Especialy if there is a corner approaching!
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NO
Old 23-10-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...oh and Martin i am sending those "items" back tommorrow!
nice one... thanks
Old 23-10-2005, 05:47 PM
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ur car will prob pull over accelrating! A good sprts car will pull 1.5g in the corners.

Phil - why not get a G meter - they arent that expensive, and good for setting up
Old 23-10-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Depends on the suspension - what have you got ?
Old 23-10-2005, 07:38 PM
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Phil don't worry, I use 362mm AP 6 pots in anger and ain't passed out yet


Kev


Old 23-10-2005, 08:30 PM
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What a fookin dumb question
Phil are you running out of conversational topics by any chance
Old 23-10-2005, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Depends on the suspension - what have you got ?
He He, What type of suspension are they again, G-Max?
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Originally Posted by Kevin Atkins
Phil don't worry, I use 362mm AP 6 pots in anger and ain't passed out yet


Kev


kev, daft question but is the angle of the car in the pic caused by good brakes or good brakes and soft suspension?
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Go to Blackpool, pull more Gs on the rides and still not pass out
Old 23-10-2005, 09:38 PM
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Martin

The brakes are very good indeed, 362's on DS3000 pads. The rear end looks high because on the short sprint circuits I run the car high at the back to make it oversteer a bit. And then run softer settings on the front to help this.

Faster real circuits the set up is very different, for instance I ran a completely opposite set up for Rockingham than that of the Top Gear sprint day.


Kev
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Jules i trying to be more like you!
Old 23-10-2005, 09:42 PM
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Get an accelerometer and measure it!

Aircraft/Rollercoaster G's are pulled through the vertical axis though, totally different to the braking G's, which are along the longditudinal axis....so no danger of "passing out" etc!
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Originally Posted by Kevin Atkins
Martin

The brakes are very good indeed, 362's on DS3000 pads. The rear end looks high because on the short sprint circuits I run the car high at the back to make it oversteer a bit. And then run softer settings on the front to help this.

Faster real circuits the set up is very different, for instance I ran a completely opposite set up for Rockingham than that of the Top Gear sprint day.


Kev
cool.. not taking the piss, just curious
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you could have brakes that can stop a jumbo jet on a sixpence
But brakes are only as good as the rubber on your rims
In you case phil probably ribbed
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Go out and jam on from 150, time the car to 0 then you can easily work out the (average) decelleration.

Neil.
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Neil,
If his car could even do 150mph, that would be a start .

Phil,
You want some proper brakes, none of this girlie 356mm stuff . Seriously, you should find that at any speed with these brakes, it will be like throwing an anchor out of the boot . You will certainly need to be bracing yourself against the steering wheel . To gauge the effectiveness of them, measure the bruising on Jen's breasts .
Old 24-10-2005, 09:47 AM
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lol@mike
you can always judge good air_con by how far your missus nipples stand!!
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SHit tyres, shit braking....

You can only brake as good as your tyres.

RW
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Mike..which Jen..as i have "had" them both in my car
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