Daviet

it is what it does on the road that counts
but its good for the my knobs bigger than yours disussions down the pub

TIFF

pugo

although i would be changing that ' special draw, not for public use ' chip

bud-weis

absolutely it's the way it drives, but how do we get an accurate-ish figure when every rolling road seems to be different???

obviously having a run is for our own amusement, but surely that can't be right??

i'll probably be taking mine here
http://www.chiptuninguk.com/chiptuning/frames.asp

and if these figures are anything to go buy i'll be lucky to get 300

i reckon even Karl would be surprised at that

TIFF

He was

I agree with what you said earlier, It SHOULD be more than that

Niall.b

i agree, and it was one of the quickest cars there, in the company of skylines & evos etc

TIFF

Daviet

sounds like the figures ava would qoute for simalar spec

bud-weis

I DEMAND A RET-TEST

AVA really qoute 320 for a car live mapped on grey's and spiking at 29psi?

i'm sure i've seen a car on here set up by AVA qouting 353 on greens , normal stg3 setup.


all this doesn't matter in the slightest cos the car sounds like a beast

pugo

yes, but you don't know the rest of the spec........personally 320 sounds good to me (a real 320 that is) the amount of people i have listened to that have an alledged 330 bhp on greens and then get all upset when there car makes 280-290 on the rollers ! so i would be happy with that spec making that

S2martin

Neil what did yours make with greys and a bit of porting etc?


Martin

bud-weis

that's the spec. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all, just seems nowadays with so many cosworths being setup you tend to hear what figures will be , from the tuners themselves, i.e. standard engine cossie with t3 and 4x4 cooler usually around 320bhp

with t34 rs500 sized cooler 340+ bhp dependant on boost of course

be nice to have some tuner input to tell me i'm wrong and a spaz

pugo

374.9 @a held 28psi and 355ibft torque


bud weis

i meant the spec of the 350 on greens car that you said AVA were quoting

Pugo

bud-weis

thought you may have, pretty sure it was normal stg3 with t34

mattbibs

out of interest what did it make when standard at nobles tiff?

remember it looking mint but forget the power it made!

Dan

Well they haven't yet, so your wrong and your a spaz!

Dan

P.s 320bhp isn't a bad figure at all, and the times Tiff did in it were more than respectable for that power!

TIFF

My times that are in Performance Ford are from when it was Stage 1

Paulie Wheelnuts

Now guys....from the horses ass....sorry I mean mouth.

It's my car,and yes 'm a little disappointed with the figures

But as the TIFFMEISTER says, it's how it drives on the road,and it's a beast.
I had a nice dual carraigeway/motorway drive to the RRs and a nice one home ............ It was moving...

It got the top award for the most over standard BHP.

For a 20 yr old car It's the biz, and fast enough for an old fart like me.who probably couldn't handle 350BHP sideways

rapidcossie

my car made 290 ATW at AVA running 20 psi 500 cooler, t34 and greens.
off the shelf chip....

maybe karls live maps arent that good after all??

bud-weis

thankyou

Karl's mapping no good???? worms.......can...

rapidcossie

nah they would probs est about 350

Dan

Mr C

iTrader: (2)

Im surprised at the actual power figure but the Stg1 times speak for them selves so I would say its a genuinely quick car regardless of the BHP power figures, which kind of shits on big horse power claims depending on how this R.road compares to others around the country.

Dan

You mean 'Stage 1' ?

Stealth Bomber

Went to a RR with a mate's MR2 Turbo, made 130bhp

There's RRs and RRs I guess.

POPEYE

but to get 316 out of a stage1 is more respectable

Ginge !

sure theres more to it, but on a serious note if karls mapping was shite then hes been doing well to blag the companys hes freelancing too


so i really dont think karl is responsable here

but 320 is ermmmmmmmmm different

cossiecrew

i wasnt expecting 320 thought it was gonna deffo be over 350

Ian M

320 bhp there must be something wrong with it.

TIFF

That was my guess to after driving it for a few years

Put it this way, on the road a 400BHP Escort couldnt catch it

cossiecrew

dont get me wrong matey im not doubting for 1 second its not a quick car karl certanily knows his stuff ive abused beaches saph and was well impressed i just thought it would of been more

TIFF

So did i

And on Paper it should be

POPEYE

who gives a fook about the bhp anyway
been on far to many,cant be arsed with them any more
mine i just say is 300

TIFF

Agree pops

Ginge !

pops as much as i agree with that, if you spent all that cash wrc head gaslet, greys and fitting kit, 500 cooler ect and got 320 quid for it how would you feel ?

think thats more the part in question,,,,,,,, and also the reason why ill never run my car on a rollers, then i can claim its 500bhp

RSCAT

im sure youll find he got 8 grand for it

pugo

yeah and if $hit could fly your mouth would be gatwick

thats about 380bhp at the flywheel.......on greens and 20psi

TIFF

Paulie Wheelnuts

Guys,
I told the RR operator to keep the revs to 6000,as it was my first RR and I didn't want anything to go pop.(No offence Mark & Karl).

The powerline on the graph was rising all the time and lookin at it,if we continued to 7000rpm it woulda been htting 340/350.

The main thing is..........it's my car, and I'm happy with it. Had it a few months, been to 2 shows, one for show and one for go and it's won prizes at each.

If I take it to another RR,we will go further,so we shall see then.

And it's goodnight from me.

Probably do with a good blow out,seeing as though an old fart like me is drivin it.