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Old 21-10-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default PC Boffins - a liccle bit stuck :cry:

Just thrown a new HD into my pc and booted up as usual, the HD is seen under the windows hardware manager in windows 2000, but not in the "my computer"

from what i gather, i need to prepare and install the filesystem on the HD for windows to see it - this is usually done in f-disk from DOS, but how di i do it while in windows?

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Old 21-10-2005, 07:16 PM
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when in the disk managment section right click on the drive and choose activate!

I put a post up about this the other week making myself look really stupid!
Old 21-10-2005, 07:19 PM
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This link gives a step by step guide.

http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246
Old 21-10-2005, 07:33 PM
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just as people said, you do it all via "disk management" mmc snap in... v. cool
Old 21-10-2005, 07:47 PM
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cheers people

now another problem

the HD is 200 gig, but windows only recognises 128 gig what could be the problem? its set as a master on the 2ndry IDE channel and the BIOS sees it as 203.4 gig

its a maxtor HD if that makes any difference?
Old 21-10-2005, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: PC Boffins - a liccle bit stuck :cry:

Originally Posted by Graceland
Just thrown a new HD into my pc
Could that be the problem? lol. Just kidding.
Old 21-10-2005, 07:57 PM
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Old 21-10-2005, 07:58 PM
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have you partitioned it?
Old 21-10-2005, 08:01 PM
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From memory, this "should" fix it:

Code:
1.	Start Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe).	
2.	Locate and then click the following key in the registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters
3.	On the Edit menu, click Add Value, and then add the following registry value:

Value name: EnableBigLba
Data type: REG_DWORD
Value data: 0x1 

4.	Quit Registry Editor.
Old 21-10-2005, 08:02 PM
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all partitioned yes, i think that windows 2000 has a bug that doesnt let it see big HD's - will try that reg code Dan
Old 21-10-2005, 08:04 PM
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As Dan says that should fix your problem
Old 21-10-2005, 08:04 PM
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Pretty sure that's what forced Win2000 to see my 250GB drive, anyway...
Old 21-10-2005, 08:11 PM
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still seeing as a 128 meg drive - can you have a check in your registry and see what fixes you have please?
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Have you tried restarting the pc since the registry change?
Old 21-10-2005, 08:16 PM
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yep, restarted the pc and checked it all, still teh same
Old 21-10-2005, 08:18 PM
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Well according to microsoft what Dan B said should do the trick.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
Old 21-10-2005, 08:27 PM
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Kinda stumped, if that's not working......do me a favour? Grab a screenshot of your Disk Management screen, in Administrative Tools, and post it in here?
Old 21-10-2005, 08:36 PM
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there ya go

i'm fookin stumped
Old 21-10-2005, 08:38 PM
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forgot to add - latest upgrades to windows are installed etc etc, service pack 4 bla bla bla
Old 21-10-2005, 08:56 PM
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Have a look at this
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...disk_mgmt.html
what you need to do is partion the unallocated drive.
Old 21-10-2005, 08:58 PM
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partitioning is all good and well, but it will still only see upto a maximum of 136 gig - this is no good at all as its a 200 gig HD and the bios reads 203.4 gig
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But will it not see 200 gig once partioned?
Old 21-10-2005, 09:07 PM
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nope - see's a maximum of 136 gig but physical 128 gig no matter how many ways you split it up
Old 21-10-2005, 09:12 PM
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I'm all out of ideas then
Old 21-10-2005, 09:22 PM
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About the only thing I can think of, and I'm not 100% sure whether it would make any difference (but aside from this, I'm stumped aswell), but I "think" it may be because your system partition/drive is formatted using FAT32 rather than NTFS. Although FAT32 will support drives up to 2TB in size, by standard, I've always used NTFS since I switched from Windows 98SE to Windows 2000...

For starters, by nature, it's supposedly faster and more stable than FAT32, and has more features within an NT-based Windows operating-system (NT, 2k, XP, etc)...
Old 21-10-2005, 09:26 PM
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ive seen this on the net ..even though it does not show full capacity

it is there so dont worry ...google it

and them pictures are way tooooo large
Old 21-10-2005, 10:09 PM
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I'm sure Maxtor had a utility to sort this out.
Old 21-10-2005, 10:24 PM
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Now cured - found the Maxtor utility on their website - drive now shows as 190 gig useable in windows
Old 21-10-2005, 10:25 PM
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Old 21-10-2005, 10:35 PM
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I had to Partition mine once XP was in and service packed!

Old 21-10-2005, 10:36 PM
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had this problem a few times before... fookin ballache aint it!
Old 21-10-2005, 11:48 PM
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graceland could you send me the link of where you went to sort it? i've got a maxtor hd to thats 160gig but only reads 128 as well it says you need the big drive enabler from the maxtor site which i got and installed but it still only read 128gig

although the comp does pick it up as a 160gig just windows doesnt.
Old 21-10-2005, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
graceland could you send me the link of where you went to sort it? i've got a maxtor hd to thats 160gig but only reads 128 as well it says you need the big drive enabler from the maxtor site which i got and installed but it still only read 128gig

although the comp does pick it up as a 160gig just windows doesnt.
Have you also enabled BigLBA in the registry, as per one of my posts above? Not sure if that's what the Maxtor utility does, but might be worth checking manually...
Old 22-10-2005, 12:19 AM
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Anyone actually mentioned that when a hard drive is advertised as 200GB it is only 160GB physical?

I got a 160GB drive and all the computers its been on have only seen it as 120GB
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Not quite true, not that much of a loss anyway...

Hard drive sizes are the only thing where they do not work in base-1024 like memory and suchlike.

1GB in memory terms = 1024x1024x1024 bytes
1GB in hard-drive terms = 1000x1000x1000 bytes

Scale that back up again, and 1GB actually means 0.93GiB (hard-drive manufacturers purposefully leave the "i" out to confuse people).

Therefore, with a hard-drive advertised as 200GB, Windows will actually recognise this as 186GiB (which Windows will, of course, call 186GB).

Confused yet? I know I was, the first time I read up on it...
Old 22-10-2005, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan B
Not quite true, not that much of a loss anyway...

Hard drive sizes are the only thing where they do not work in base-1024 like memory and suchlike.

1GB in memory terms = 1024x1024x1024 bytes
1GB in hard-drive terms = 1000x1000x1000 bytes

Scale that back up again, and 1GB actually means 0.93GiB (hard-drive manufacturers purposefully leave the "i" out to confuse people).

Therefore, with a hard-drive advertised as 200GB, Windows will actually recognise this as 186GiB (which Windows will, of course, call 186GB).

Confused yet? I know I was, the first time I read up on it...
Ah right, yeah, i didn't think it would be that much of a loss....i just realised i got 10GB set aside on another partition which i don't use (yet)
Old 22-10-2005, 01:11 PM
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now the fooker is saying the logical drive is invalid when i format it - what a coont
Old 22-10-2005, 06:12 PM
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sorry dan thats not entirely the reason windows sees a 200gb HDD as 186gb. It's to do with cluster sizes on the disk, each clusher needs a few bytes at the beginning and end of the cluster to identify itself and the contents, this will mean that each cluster has say 1% wasted space (guestimate figure). now if you set your drive up with a few large clusters, then you dont lose much space, if you set it up with a lot of small clusters, you lose a lot of space. this is one of the reasons "old skool" pc users like to keep their hard drives in lots of smaller partitions, as you lsoe a smaller %age in the format process. your clkuster sizes are also limited by the physical proportions of the disk ie each cluster must be on the same physical part of the disk (each harddrive will have lots of disk inside it)

HDD size is actually measured in heads, cylinders etc. etc.

its true that HDD manufacturers quote sizes in different measurements than we're used to, they use KILOBYTES (1000) rater than KIBIBYTES (1024) but then 99% of people on the planet thinks that a a kibibyte is called a kilobyte anyway.
Old 22-10-2005, 06:14 PM
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ps windows can only see 128gb of the disk existing due to a bug/oversight in the software. NTFS itself is quite happy of partitioning and formattin a disk larger than this. for example i have a 1.3terabyte partition on one of my servers (1300gb) and its quite happy with it.
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What Jim said


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