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Old 21-10-2005, 04:07 PM
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and why spend 3k ona shonky old T4?


you could get an IHI WRC spec blower for that

or a full on GT35 with ext gate and the manifold?


me no comprendé dingo
Old 21-10-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
theres a easy way around pump pressure,,,,,

add pressure into the water container,,,, run a boost line into the top of the bottle
Sounds a good theory but can the flojet pump with supply water at 3 bar....i think ull find the pump internals will limit what suction pressure the pump will handle.....

Have you asked Flojet about the Duplex II looks like that will pump 6.8 bar at 4 ltrs/min

http://www.dualpumps.co.uk/pages/dia...iven_pumps.htm
Old 21-10-2005, 04:13 PM
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Dave, I am not disclosing what i paid for it but they sold for about 3k, not even sure you can still purchase this item.

But its a full race spec t4 hybrid with very trick internals.

I didnt want a GT as the issues with surge and manifolds.

The blower will take antilag, but will never get used for it.
Old 21-10-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Dave, I am not disclosing what i paid for it
Originally Posted by dingy
you wont get any change for 3k



i think i know what you paid for it LORD


go on, whats so special about it? Full race T4 ? just like full race exhausts on saxo's ? Trick internals? blades made from paul daniels' personal playing cards ?
Old 21-10-2005, 04:17 PM
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Steve,
I think I now know what turbo you are running then . This is Turbo Technics version of a T38, where they basically bastardise two turbos together, hence why the cost was so astronimcal, as you need a normal T4 to start with and then certain bits of that are scrapped and replaced with T3/4 items. This is why it was so expensive and why they stopped producing it.
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a £3k T38 ?



pants down!


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Karl told me about the Turbo... sadly it went in one ear and out the other

Probably why Karl knew he was safe telling me I would either forget or not understand

Mikes wrong though... I'm pretty sure of that
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Sadly Mike that is incorrect, but keep guessing

Does have internal's from another blower though but its not a T34

dave i didn't pay quite that much for it, but they were 3k but as mike said i don't think they are produced as they were so expensive.
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Dingy is very nearly right, the work's cars ran Flojet's with 6 bar uprated springs fitted and no bypass valves to ensure a minimum of 6 bar pressure available as the dyno testing proved that the water pressure needed to be about three times the boost pressure to acheive good atomisation! The Flojet was very reliable at this pressure, whereas sadly the ERL pump was not! Hope that clears up a few myths...

The solution is to buy the correctly specified pump! Easy!
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Originally Posted by troy

The solution is to buy the correctly specified pump! Easy!
not taht easy..

where can we buy a 6 bar flojet from then? as ill take one now!

Ian (sibster) can you confirm mate that a flowjet can be modded as Troy says?
Old 21-10-2005, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Karl told me about the Turbo... sadly it went in one ear and out the other

Probably why Karl knew he was safe telling me I would either forget or not understand

Mikes wrong though... I'm pretty sure of that
can we hypmotise you then you would tell us what it is.
Old 21-10-2005, 08:20 PM
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http://www.flojetshop.com/item.asp?l...67094A&id=3611

here's the 6 bar one......if its any help
Old 24-10-2005, 07:46 AM
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Ding,

What flow rate r u looking for from the pump 10 bar?

Ive been experimenting with some different pumps over the weekend.

Had a rig running 10 bar 2 nozzles and 540ml/min...with pressure bleed off to maintain 10 bar..the pump I was acheiving this with was capable of a closed head of approx 12.5 bar....

This gave a lovely spray pattern nice atomisation.
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Originally Posted by troy
Dingy is very nearly right, the work's cars ran Flojet's with 6 bar uprated springs fitted and no bypass valves to ensure a minimum of 6 bar pressure available as the dyno testing proved that the water pressure needed to be about three times the boost pressure to acheive good atomisation! The Flojet was very reliable at this pressure, whereas sadly the ERL pump was not! Hope that clears up a few myths...

The solution is to buy the correctly specified pump! Easy!
Cheers Ahmed .
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So troy is ahmed who has just said you were wrong mike LOL
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Originally Posted by dingy
So troy is ahmed who has just said you were wrong mike LOL
rison:
Old 24-10-2005, 08:19 AM
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I still think at 6 bar you will be short of presure for the amount of boost you need.......i tried a 6 bar flojet and the results were worrying....even for us low boost peeps....
Old 24-10-2005, 08:23 AM
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Steve,
Yep, I didn't realise that they fitted these pumps with stronger springs to achieve the pressure required . So accept my humble apologies . I will of course get your pump uprated for you - as well as the one in your car (and mine ) .
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