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Old 19-10-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default ** Latest - Focus ST Release hype **

This is the latest, oficially, guys ...

Load a tripe, really

Something different is the new "Submarine lighting"

Old 19-10-2005, 10:04 AM
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10 squid says its not as quick round a track as the RS
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I thought it had been timed round the Nurburgring quicker than the RS?
Old 19-10-2005, 10:46 AM
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Kev .. Sorry mate .. Bollocks ..

We have built it to be quite a bit quicker .. smoother and quieter ..
It has extra cylinders and a much torquier motor. We all know about loadsa torque!

(And you might even be able to get the spares after a couple of years)

That's why Prodrive/Tickford aren't involved ... Thank God ... (as they were in the last "effort")

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they should have called it the rs, no matter how good it is, alot of people wont be that bothered, because its just another st....sounds silly but i bet if it looked a bit harder and had an rs badge on the back they sell more and could charge more.....
Old 19-10-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: ** Latest - Focus ST Release hype **

Originally Posted by Kev.H
10 squid says its not as quick round a track as the RS
But my tenner says its quicker in the real world on real welsh roads, not a smooth clear track
Old 19-10-2005, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Bags
Kev .. Sorry mate .. Bollocks ..

We have built it to be quite a bit quicker .. smoother and quieter ..
It has extra cylinders and a much torquier motor. We all know about loadsa torque!

(And you might even be able to get the spares after a couple of years)

That's why Prodrive/Tickford aren't involved ... Thank God ... (as they were in the last mistake)

A.





does look alright tho
Old 19-10-2005, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: ** Latest - Focus ST Release hype **

Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by Kev.H
10 squid says its not as quick round a track as the RS
But my tenner says its quicker in the real world on real welsh roads, not a smooth clear track

you saying we got fake roads here in wales???




joking
Old 19-10-2005, 11:00 AM
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PMSL @ Spiky
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Shame it's front wheel drive still
Old 19-10-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Bags
That's why Prodrive/Tickford aren't involved ... Thank God ... (as they were in the last mistake)
Careful! An ex-jag employee off here got laid off for saying that kind of thing. You don't know who is listening!!

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Old 19-10-2005, 11:15 AM
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Bunch of arse mate.
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Originally Posted by Spax
Shame it's front wheel drive still
Exactly
Old 19-10-2005, 11:35 AM
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Neil .. Cheers ..

But I'm not saying anything that isn't true!

But I'll change one word, maybe
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ive seen one of these about 2 months ago on the A127, on french plates
Old 19-10-2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xr-stu
they should have called it the rs, no matter how good it is, alot of people wont be that bothered, because its just another st....sounds silly but i bet if it looked a bit harder and had an rs badge on the back they sell more and could charge more.....
people will just have to accept ST is the new RS

(i am now prepared for the RS onslaught )
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well the rs company is skint
Old 19-10-2005, 06:05 PM
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It doesn't do anything at all for me, and isn't an RS, nothing special at all.
Old 19-10-2005, 06:58 PM
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i won't be swapping my RS for one thats for sure!

Not keen on the looks at all.
Old 19-10-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: ** Latest - Focus ST Release hype **

Originally Posted by Kev.H
10 squid says its not as quick round a track as the RS
You've lost Ł10

"the ST has achieved a lap of the Nürburgring ten seconds quicker than the RS ever managed."
Old 19-10-2005, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NathR
It doesn't do anything at all for me, and isn't an RS, nothing special at all.
i personally think the focus rs aint nothing special ,,,,,, and the parts on the st will be available


as for the RS thing,,,,,,,,,, the rs company is skint, there aint likley ever gonna be another rs car made

but if it is the odds are its gonna be a ST badge

makes me laugh at the RS only people,,,,,,,, if it had a RS badge people would buy boxer shorts,,,,,,,,,,,, INFACT THEY DO
Old 19-10-2005, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
makes me laugh at the RS only people,,,,,,,, if it had a RS badge people would buy boxer shorts,,,,,,,,,,,, INFACT THEY DO
ummmm don't label us all like that please, i bought one coz i looked around at cars in the Ł20K price bracket and it was the right car for me.

I actually went to buy a Golf R32 or a Civic Type R when Kim saw a Focus RS sat in the corner.

I just dont like the "big a$$" on the new Focus. And lets face it....if you want a mass produced car with loads of parts get the ST. I bought the Focus RS and so far have only ever passed 1 other on the road! Just look at my last car, i like to be a bit of an individual.

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Old 19-10-2005, 07:10 PM
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Must admit I'm not keen on the looks of the new Focus. I much prefer the looks of the original.

The five cylinder Volvo motor has to be ripe for some most excellent tweeking though

Who will be first to get then new ST to 400bhp then?
Old 19-10-2005, 07:20 PM
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where do you live, theres a few focus rs's about

its not quite a collectors car as such yet, its more of a fun car thats vaue for money and well way too expensive spares making it a bad servicing cost car, meaning more and more will be neglected
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Originally Posted by b19bal
where do you live, theres a few focus rs's about

its not quite a collectors car as such yet, its more of a fun car thats vaue for money and well way too expensive spares making it a bad servicing cost car, meaning more and more will be neglected
I dissagree.....if you can pay Ł20k for a car i think the people should be able to afford servicing costs. Plus as only 4501 were built they will hold their value (i hope )

The new focus ST won't hold any value....it will be a typical ford
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Originally Posted by Neil S
Originally Posted by Al Bags
That's why Prodrive/Tickford aren't involved ... Thank God ... (as they were in the last mistake)
Careful! An ex-jag employee off here got laid off for saying that kind of thing. You don't know who is listening!!

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Al Bags YOUR FIRED!

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20k motors,,,,,,,,,, erm you aint looked about at what they are actualy fetching have ya

there 15k, but that on finance then they aint that much in all honesty but when people do get em some are out of there league and so have to skimp on parts, a brand new set of disks are over 200 quid each i belive when i looked em up ( actually i could be mistaken but i know that they was gonna cost me over 100 quid each trade , hence why i stopped looking )

then theres the warantie issues,,,,,,,,,, the fact that ford dont really inderstand em and so they dont really get well serviced by there mechanics

then we talk about the lead time for some of the parts that have to be on a special order

there a simmiler thing to the racing puma but that was a real genuine rare car,,,,,,,,, shame it was soooo slow
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Originally Posted by b19bal
20k motors,,,,,,,,,, erm you aint looked about at what they are actualy fetching have ya

there 15k, but that on finance then they aint that much in all honesty but when people do get em some are out of there league and so have to skimp on parts, a brand new set of disks are over 200 quid each i belive when i looked em up ( actually i could be mistaken but i know that they was gonna cost me over 100 quid each trade , hence why i stopped looking )

then theres the warantie issues,,,,,,,,,, the fact that ford dont really inderstand em and so they dont really get well serviced by there mechanics

then we talk about the lead time for some of the parts that have to be on a special order

there a simmiler thing to the racing puma but that was a real genuine rare car,,,,,,,,, shame it was soooo slow
we'll agree to disagree



see how much the focus ST will be worth 3 years down the line
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well if it sells like the street KA it will be classed as a rare car as they aint making them anymore due to the lack of sales

can get m brand new for 11k now

but then as im biased and can get the ST for roughly 30% less than retail if i went for it i dont think i will lose cash

been toying with the idea of a brand new fiesta ST for 9200

but i have to pay more for leather and the stripes
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my brother bought a fiesta ST from ukcarbroker.co.uk was about Ł10,700 plus stripes. wicked cars, his well happy with his

wouldnt swap it for my focus though
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thats a fooking class price he got

i prefer the fiesta for some reason over ALL the fords,,,,, think im turning gay


us pikeys usually like transits
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Default Re: ** Latest - Focus ST Release hype **

Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Kev.H
10 squid says its not as quick round a track as the RS
You've lost Ł10

"the ST has achieved a lap of the Nürburgring ten seconds quicker than the RS ever managed."
Thats just ford hype bigging up the new car...standard focus front suspension and lack of LSD make that very hard to believe
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i think its a good attempt from ford its alot better then the usual crap they are making these days, but because its badges an ST and not an RS it will never have the same respect, so the question is when will the next RS come out, i suppose they badges this the ST as its only FWD
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Surprised why no-one has asked what "Submarine Lighting" is yet

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Originally Posted by Al Bags
Surprised why no-one has asked what "Submarine Lighting" is yet


Reckon it will look smart myself.
For the record they've put 2 small red spots in the overhead light and they shine down onto the gear lever at night, giving a red glow around the shift.
Either going to be smart or I'll pull the bulbs out.
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10 seconds a lap round Nürburgring do u really believe that considering how good the FRS is on track cough bollocks cough same old Ford cant do shit right my 10 pound is very safe

all the faff over the FRS and they cut so many corners and didnt really get that right yet now they suddenly managed to build the best thing since slice bread and did it cheaper but put a badge no one cares about on it
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Not quite right FlyingFocRS

The Focus RS was always called Racing Focus in-house. Should have kept it that way. Cos the car was never a RS as we all know them.

There won't be another anyways.

The new ST will be a lot better all-rounder than the old Racing Focus .. and as I said, the parts support and prices will be a lot improved.

Our favourite cars in Ford are Fiesta ST and Mustang at the moment.
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cheap dig Focus Racing I think its worthy of the badge feck its a modern day Escort RS Turbo and a damn good one at that

Just ST badge is worth nothing might aswell be an XR badge

Im glad they wont build an RS because I dont think Ford have the staff or the ability to make a good rival to the Evo and scoobs etc If it werent for the RS badge I wouldnt piss on Ford crap service shit warrenty not exactly the best finished cars need i go on
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I think Ford have pretty much abused the RS marque as much as they can now, releasing a car which many don't consider to be what they would define an RS and then releasing a faster version of its replacement under what was considered a less-worthy marque.
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MWF Dont be a pillock again ... You made similar statements in an old thread about RS cars. (It all went quiet when I asked who ACTUALLY worked for Ford)

'kin hell! .. A new generation Corsa basic van is as fast as the old SR's
It's called progress .. What do you expect? Focus RS is an old car .. we sent out the specs around 1997-8!


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