ASHCOSSIE

as above

ze-vh phil

the winner!!!!

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

STG. 3 is quite fast and is good at keeping up and leaving quite a few expensive cars.



Dave.

ImaRacing 700

300bhp...not alot really nowadays!

Jim Galbally

ima... stage THREE not stage TWO :P

Charlie Chalk

iTrader: (1)

whats the most power you can get from a stage 3? they run 25psi dont they too ?

EIL132

What kind? 4x4 or 2wd. Makes a big difference

Alps Pacino

I have a 2wd stage3 saph with t34 .63 and the usual stuff, had a pop at a noble m12 gto yesterday, identical in 4th gear, but not sure what would have happened on a decent long road from lower speeds, would probably get spanked.

frog

A well setup stg3 runs 13's on quarter mile I believe, last time at the pod, there was a lambo murcielago (or Gallardo) and a 360 convertible, they were running high 12's/low13's if I remember correctly, so that gives you a good idea.

I ran my 4x4 (only stage 1 ) up the strip to get an idea of its performance, so I can compare it with others on paper, street racing is not always 100% accurate, you never really know how hard the other guy is trying.

Mind you, I would say one of the biggest problems cossies have against more modern supercars would be in the handling department.

Take an Evo III for example, you might leave it dead at the traffic light grand prix with a stg3 cossie, but at the roundabout rally, it will brake later, turn better and leave the cossie behind

JRST

i went in a new M3 CSL yesterday, and in a straight line, it didnt feel much slower than a stg3 cos. Actually i think the cossie is more aggresive in
accellerating and pulling.

warleydaddy

I went for it against a New M3 in my old stg 3 saff,we both gunned it,and if anything i piped him by about a cars length.........

God i miss that car!!!!

Pete....

Andreas

IMO stg3 with good driver will run high 12's on the quarter. Some even mid 12s with massive boost and launch.

Disabled Account

A good Stage 3 RWD Cossie is a fair bit quicker than a Ferarri 355 F1 all the way to 140 - 150 MPH

Dan

Think there was a cossie set up by Ahmed that ran 12.4 (4x4) with about 330ish BHP, guy was called bob that used to own it I think, can't remember his username on here

That thing really went round corner's too IIRC!

JRST

yeah, that was bobs car, im sure gadget brought it. was a lovly car. Used to see it all the times and must say bob really looks after his motors.

JRST

What stage 3 spec is that?

t34, cooler, 25 psi, std comp.

Paul Eggleton

In a drag race though the cossie will be a lot slower on the gear change compared to newer supercar machinery. Put a slick box in a its goodnight vienna. Didn't Martin run 330 in the old car with his R+D and that was flying. Std 4X4 gearbox are shite, don't know how much better the 2wds are.

Paul.

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That was Phil2400 Cossie, 7.8 comp ratio, T34 (360° bearing), Pace 500 style i/cooler, greens, 26-28 PSI boost with Harvey Gibb/Ahmed chip and set up.

frog

I think you'll find that's the turbo giving you the impression it pulls harder, the M3 was probably pulling smoother for longer, while the cossie was more like boom boom boom.

I had a 5.0L TVR chimarea which is about as quick as a stg 3 cos, and the feeling is completely different, end result was similar though.

frog

Doug, was that a 2.4 conversion ? If so, hardly a stg 3 anymore, more a stg 3 hybrid Not having a go, just trying to compare like for like

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NO, Phil's car is a 2 litre on a 200 block.

The reg plate was bought from Paul at Weston S-M who used to have it on his Power Engineering 2.4 litre converted Saph....many years back.

frog

JRST

A TVR is fast. I think your right about the turbo but when watching the speedo, im sure that the cossie needle goes up alot faster than the M3's did. As a road car I know the M3 is great.

We went down this straight and hit about 120 mph. It felt quick but to be honest Im sure a properly setup stage 3 car would give a M3 a really hard time in a race.

Must admit the M3's engine sounded amazing. Just rawed after 5k rpm all the way to the limiter. We had the sport mode on too.

Andreas

Thats so true.

Five years ago it was still quick but now the competion is tougher.

Ive timed mine from 100-200kph (62-124mph) to compare with magazine tests and it can still surprise a few cars like the heavy Audi's.

frog

I find my cossie speedo isn't very smooth though, it seems to move slowly, then leap fwd, then slow again...

JRST

thats maybe it coming on and going of boost.

I have to sort my one out now. been standing for 8 months.

Must get it done now.

frog

Why is it we only compare cossies to others in straight lines ???

I was nearly side-swiped by a 330 on saturday, going round a roundabout, noticed this back car coming towards the roundabout on my left at a rate high rate of knots, so slowed down cos I didn't think he'd stop - he didn't and could not have done at the speed he was going.

Putting the fact that he was obviously on a suicide mission aside, the speed he took round the roundabout (going straight ahead) was nothing short of amazing, I doubt you'd be able to do that in a cossie.

I am glad I saw him and stopped in time, I'd be dead by now otherwise, or, he'd be in a hedge/lamp post.

Long and short of it is, it's all good being able to pull a few car lenghts off a supercar (or whatever), but how good do you feel when that car overtakes on the outside round a bend/roundabout

JRST

that is true. there are some great handling cosworths out there, but i feel they have all been made to handle by owners buying uprated parts and fitting them.

In standard form, the cosworth 2wd suspension is not very good.

NasRs

Agreed with some of you, i think a properly set up STG3 will keep up and maybe outgun an M3!!