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Old 14-07-2019, 12:52 PM
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Looking to buy a ford puma as I need a secondary car for my business but be nice have something is fast also becoming a little bit rare at the same time. always wanted one and would like chance to get one before it becomes either to expensive or impossible.

is the value likely to climb ?

looking at 2 one bit rusty on the rear arches other pristine but the guy is asking far to much money for an old car clearly knows it value will climb as other needs work but could prob pick up for a rock bottom price, both have 90k on the clock
Old 14-07-2019, 12:54 PM
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all sporty fords values rise, the main point is to choose wisely with in terms of spec and miles and condition while there is a choice
Old 14-07-2019, 01:07 PM
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yeah there both 1.7 trouble is other prob a better car but guy asking heck a lot for such an old car while other has 1 badly rusted arch rest seems ok irony is still be cheaper have that fixed then price other guy asking, even now not as much choose from so already becoming rare I believe only 5000 of them left some for sale are 100s miles from me so can't see it being to long before this car hard to find as well.
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mot result for cheaper on

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They rot like hell so buyer beware.
Old 14-07-2019, 03:22 PM
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yeah bit like my old fiesta same era but used a lot so keeps on going but the back arches have rotted like hell
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best ones to go for are the thunders or millennium's but tbh I would buy on condition and buy rot free, if its cheap then its for a reason its a shitter, no point investing in turds
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what was the difference with the thunders? yeah I going to take another look at hers as stuck a garage last time hard to see just surface rust on arch only or if worse if all over then yeah I won't bother.
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Originally Posted by Robsters
what was the difference with the thunders? yeah I going to take another look at hers as stuck a garage last time hard to see just surface rust on arch only or if worse if all over then yeah I won't bother.
would walk away from any puma with rust as surface will just be start of it prob swiss cheese once you get into it, thunder was higher spec with leather a/c heated screens etc
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went to see the car rust not very bad hardly any just badish on 1 arch compared to my fiesta nothing , most concerning is no service history log its lost and it had an oil leak and she wont budge past £600
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Originally Posted by Robsters
went to see the car rust not very bad hardly any just badish on 1 arch compared to my fiesta nothing , most concerning is no service history log its lost and it had an oil leak and she wont budge past £600

your wasting your time even looking at cars in that price bracket, you need to up your game or forget it
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Originally Posted by A9TUE
your wasting your time even looking at cars in that price bracket, you need to up your game or forget it
other is a mint thunder for £1600
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Originally Posted by Robsters
other is a mint thunder for £1600

thats more like it, just dont expect to see any real return on it right away , will be a 5yrs + before the values on them start soaring, the focus st170 is now fast becoming a hard car to find in good condition with high factory spec, seen prices on them go up by 30% in last year
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thats because you broke them all lol
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I defo think they will be worth good money in tears to come. Just the same as the mk5 fiesta zetec s.
Old 15-07-2019, 07:43 PM
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There are bargains about, just because one is more expensive than the other doesn't necessarily mean it's the better car.

I bought a 2002 1.7 puma In January very cheap. Purely for the engine to put in my fiesta. Sacrilege really as it wasnt to bad at all tbh, the puma community must be booming as Ive sold some of the left over parts to people keeping their pumas going and almost covered the cost of what I paid for the whole car as it stands.
Nows the time to buy imo
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I think you need to be looking for an immaculate example and it needs to be maintained properly and ideally stored somewhere dry, otherwise in 5 years time it'll be rotten and worth nothing. What are your mechanical and bodywork capabilities like?
Agreed that a Thunder or Millenium is likely to be more desirable than a bog standard. i'd be looking for one that was fully loaded with any optional extras whilst they are so cheap as well.
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Originally Posted by james kiely
thats because you broke them all lol

there is that to it lol
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Originally Posted by ProjectBobcat
I think you need to be looking for an immaculate example and it needs to be maintained properly and ideally stored somewhere dry, otherwise in 5 years time it'll be rotten and worth nothing. What are your mechanical and bodywork capabilities like?
Agreed that a Thunder or Millenium is likely to be more desirable than a bog standard. i'd be looking for one that was fully loaded with any optional extras whilst they are so cheap as well.

Exactly
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having a hard time looking so other guy with thunder claim it sold so i guess he sold it or got someone interested to buy it, another guy but said all mint but slight bubble on 1 arch and rest under it was underseal so im skeptical if rusting he covered it, went to see another 1 that looked like had an oil leak but women claims it just an engine water leak? i said do u mean water pump? to me really looked like oil given black and black patch on the floor in her garage. other odd thing was on 1 of the doors the sliver paint was peeling off to show blue samw with the mirror....respray job at some point its past? very odd as it looks like the original sliver to me by ford but maybe im wrong, i say these cars already becoming a rare to hard find now!
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The problem I found was trying to find a puma with rear arches. The back arches always rust,just like the car really.
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mine was a 51 reg. The fooker was rotten.
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sugar! that it mine a 51 fiesta rear arches are gone all filler i prob shud get shot of it really, thats the thing ppl pushing get big money for there old puma are just stupid lot them are rusted i think, make me wanna pull carpet up on my fiesta now lol
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I put a cheap pair of bucket seats in it, 300 mm front brake discs and mondeo mk3 front caliers..20mm rear axle spacers. Front sub frame strengthening bar. Mk2 2ltr mondeo throttle body and a cone filter.

I remember coming next to a standard puma and it just pulled away from me ha ha.
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what part the floor was that the top photo? yeah thats the thing isnt it real rust buckets got me really worried about my fiesta now surely mot would pick up on the floor being that rotted?
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You will be waiting a VERY long time for a puma to become collectible, never really been that sought after as most see it as a birds car and just use the engine out them for fiestas, not what you wanted to hear but it’s the truth. The racing puma is a different story but they cost allot more.
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
You will be waiting a VERY long time for a puma to become collectible, never really been that sought after as most see it as a birds car and just use the engine out them for fiestas, not what you wanted to hear but it’s the truth. The racing puma is a different story but they cost allot more.
yeah used to look like a womens car but def rare now dont see many about i think it is going to be a game changer soon already saw a classic car mag expect it be a classic fairly soon
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Agree with Adam. Average puma will be years before it’s worth a wank. Racing puma on the other hand will always be worth money
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Originally Posted by Robsters
yeah used to look like a womens car but def rare now dont see many about i think it is going to be a game changer soon already saw a classic car mag expect it be a classic fairly soon
A game changer? Nah. Rare doesnt mean value is going to always go up. Yes there will be exceptions to the rule, but for a car like the Puma, thats only going to be a dry stored delivery mileage type example, and even then its not going to be mega £.
There just isnt the following. My other half couldnt even give hers away (was a solid runner and the only rot was rear arches)
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the lads above speak sense, all fords have their place in the market and the puma with likes of steve mcqueens's press prank never really worked same with the cougar and nasty probe, of course in time values will go up as numbers dwindle but as to how long or how high that would be god knows, there are other fords around more collectable with values rising at a rate the puma will never reach such as the st170 high spec option, its a very odd choice of car but each to their own

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Yep, agreed. They're not actually rare and will take a LONG time to be.

Quick check shows Ford sold over 53,000 of them in the UK alone and over 5,000 are still on the road here whilst another 5,000 are SORN. So 10,000 of the things still knocking about in the UK alone.
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Originally Posted by Robsters
what part the floor was that the top photo? yeah thats the thing isnt it real rust buckets got me really worried about my fiesta now surely mot would pick up on the floor being that rotted?
The the pics are from inside the car looking down at the floor
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I've seen a red Puma recently with low miles and it's up for 6k
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Just found it on ebay.

And it's a shitty 1.4.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-Ford...4AAOSwOWpcmK0M
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