ImaRacing 700

Just got a home gym in for a bit of a comeback to my early days of Karate

Now obviously i want to build rapid muscle...not with steriods ....now i read that i need around 160grams a day of protein....i probably naturally get around 100 a day due to being a big tinned fish eater plus meat every night...

What is a good supplement to say get a 50/75/100g hit in one go..or dont it work like that???

Lee Reynolds

like your early days of karate.....wanna build muscle....WTF? Your suppose to stay lean you fruit

ImaRacing 700

I meant like my early days of being fitter than now Got all the karate skills i need...its time to put my now 90kilos to pure strength mode

Rene

best then is eat more fish! as fishfat brakes up normal fat and stimulates muscle growth

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

Plenty of Sex is good for the old love muscle

Alps Pacino

la muscle whey is about 33g a shake i think, that was about the best i could find there usually about 25-27ish

LEE-RS

Check this site out matey

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html

Cheers

Lee

RigPig

you are a TOSSER of the first order wel done

CabrioTurbo

my protien intake today was 4 tins of tuna for lunch
nice meal that was

Rene

yes it is mate

Alps Pacino

o i'm good

ImaRacing 700

Thank you and may God be with you as you need some help bro

Thanks guys.....btw does licking out the missus give me any protein as its fuckin fishy ROFL

Rene

Alps Pacino

na but its good for the joints

Rene

that would be rotten fish and should give u some nice bubbles in your stomach!

Mark B

u seem a nice guy remember to remind me to send u a xmas card....

MB.

Lee Reynolds

Tuna is gopping! Like tinned mackrell etc. Love fresh fish, and specially like finney!

Just build that engine fook the muscles

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

Rhys

Building the arm muscle up ready to fight the cossie to keep it in a straight line?

I so wanna get back on the weights but by the time i do other stuff im to knackered to even look at them atm

Paul Eggleton

Unfortunately even the most genetically gifted of us cannot perform this feat.


Also if you expect results over night I am afraid you will be sorely disappointed, but it does depend on how much size you want to put on.

A good rule of thumb is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight at least. For growing you are looking at 1-1.5grams/lb

They say the body can only absorb 30 grams of protein at a time, so split your meals up. I use a protein powder (maximuscle) and take it with breakfast, midmorning and mid afternoon. I eat right after training so don't take it in the evening.

PAul

ImaRacing 700

Paul....i dont expect results overnight,a week is the target

Thanks for the 30 gram protein advice...are the protein supplements as good as the real thing like meat fish etc???

Andreas

Ive got my own Dojo, well its actually the garage and i use Autoglym......wax on, wax off.

Wish I could make use of my paretns gym but my back is rubbish so i just swim and take long walks.

Paul Eggleton

I would say yes, if you buy a good one. You may also get some added amino's, vitamins etc that you won't find in a meal.

When people ask me why I'm drinking it, the usual reply is 'you try eating the equivalent of 6 tins of tuna each and every day'. A chocolate milkshake is far easier and nicer.

But a balanced diet is essential, so don't rely on them too much, as I said, I have mine between meals

JoeE30

Like i said on another post, just for joe public and not profesional builders a good diet will be better then shakes and bars....

Protien and amino/chain acids help muscle to build and recover. If you like tuna eat lots of this as it has protien and is rich in omega 3 oils which helps to breakdown fat.

When i was training(not that im a professional) empty stomach cardio first thing in the morning then it was porridge then about an hour or so later a shake....Mid morning was chicken....Lunch was veg, chicken and fruit with a shake and then i would train in the evening for about an hour and half a shake straight after. I would then have more meat like steak with veg...

I work long hours and am out on the road alot so i dont really have time to balance my meals that well.....

I was over-weight when i started training so i didnt need the carbs to build.

It all depends on what you want to do.......Get big or be lean????

luke89

iTrader: (1)

i cant eat fish

Anonymous

Cant see why you want bulk for karate anyway, flexibility and speed are more useful in martial arts than muscle mass anyway IME.

S1 JOHN

i brought a zero carb whey protein back from majorca its 27g of protein in a 30g serving the other 3 grams is vitamins amino acids and creatine 3 a day with meals

JoeE30

Luke same here i hate the bloody stuff......Which for me when i was training was seriously missing out on something...Never mind i made up for it in STEAK!!!!!!!!!

ImaRacing 700

Chip...i was a brown belt Wado Ryu student.....then gave it all up...i am now looking to minor body build.......when i say karate is always there it is...like the ability to drive a car...you will always know it...the plan now is muscle build....dont wanna be lean like my old but VERY fast days

Anonymous

Guess thats true to a certain extent about it staying with you, but on the other hand i did taekwondoe for years and used to fight in my uni team etcyears ago, but it wouldnt do me much use these days cause i dont have the flexibility for the kicks and stuff, so some of it is more useful than other bits.

JoeE30

Phil, minor body build as in what..... If you seriously want to be bigger then just going to the gym then you need to start traing for long amounts of time and weighing your food and all the rest of it that goes with it...

You may even find it profitable to go on some sort of gear, everyone thinks that if you on gear then you must be a freek but i would lay lots of money on the fact that most of the body builders who are at novice level are on the gear.

Phil

iTrader: (1)

He must be foreseeing leaving the house for a PF meet within the next few months if he wants to baulk up fast

ImaRacing 700

Chip is there anything you aint an expert in? You are that fast show character...."man and boy" Reactions are always there...may not be able to kick as high without farting though


Phil been to loads of meets HAVE you?

Minor bodybuild ='s tone up!!!....Obviously to look good you gotta do gear

Lee Reynolds

parrot

Rab

Gear? I don't follow? Wassat then?

Big G

Do what your comfortable with Phil,
I am slightly overweight by about 3 stone and go to the gym but i couldnt be doing with the healthy food/ eat 3 times a day lark, i in a way made me feel ill as i am a 1 or 2 meal a day person who likes to eat what i like rather what i have to by rule if you understand.
Some people can keep a disiplin (however you spell it) but i cant
But going to the gym has toned me up and made me abit fitter as i can play footy for longer without coughing a lung up, but i am still a chunky sod

christianh3

ima, good protein powder/shake here :

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pag...&np=1&cpid=629

currently on offer and tastes nice which is rare for a protein shake! common belief is to try and eat 1g protein for every 1lb in b.weight but i seem to do ok with less than that as i'm not mad on high protein foods.

Manchester Mike

i've heard 30-40 grams of protein every 3 hours. u eat 2much and you'll shit the lot out. lots of chicken/tuna and eggs! need carbs as well tho for energy!!!
I know a guy 21 years old and weighs 18 stone with very little body fat

MikeeB

A product called COMPLETE by LAMUSCLE is quite a good product if you wish to strength train and loose fat at the same time but in an ideal world you would want to bulk up to feed your muscles for growth,then cardio to cut up but a good anticatabolic would be advisable if cardio'ing to save you loosing muscle mass aswell as fat.

As said above Cardio in the morning is a great thing if you have the time for it as your body has nowhere to turn for energy other than your fat stores and consume protein be it a steak or shake within 30mins of your workout.

Goto BODYBUILDING.COM for info it's a great site and some suppliments are dead cheap there, just have to wait for them to come over from the states.

Paul Eggleton

Sorry, but every statement above is complete bollocks

1) Training for long amounts of time - NOT NEEDED
2)Weighing your food - He isn't Dorian Yates and neither are 99.9999% of the population who train. Get the basics right of enough protein and you will you can judge the rest from the mirror and how you feel.
3) Taking gear is a serious as taking any form of Drug and should be made on an educated and reasoned basis, and making a sweeping statement for what is essentially a beginer is outrageous

Everyone is different and telling him to spend hours down the gym is a sure fire way of burning him out and then loosing interest. I spend less than 45 mins in the gym and train 3-4 times a week. If you train properly(i.e hard enough) you don't need any more.

As far as weighing food goes, please. The only thing I weigh is the wifes tits .

Taking gear for a beginer is ludicrous. You would be suprised with what the correct training and diet can produce naturally. I put on over 3 stone and was training for 5 years before I decided I needed some gear, and then it was only a small amount to take me over my bodys natural ability. As soon as a beginer comes off the gear, they will loose their size, and worse of all motivation. They then realise they need to keep taking the gear and end up hooked. This is not the way to go about it!

My 2 pence

Paul