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Old 11-05-2018, 07:10 PM
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I know RitchieST and The Youth(Steve) have/had one of these. Are they any good?

I've noticed you can't get a petrol with a manual box(I wonder why). The 2.2 diesel and 2lt diesel engines come with manual boxes.

I've never had a diesel car so I would be a bit worried about egr/dpf faults.

But as car are they any good. I really like the look of them and I like the mk4 face lift versions with the bigger 19 inch wheels and different bumpers.

Any info would be helpful.
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I didn't relies you couldn't get a manual tit x sport, i wouldn't mind a mk4 Mondeo to replace our mk2 focus when the time comes. i don't think there is much choice of petrol engines tbh, they are mainly diesel, which i wouldn't want really. I can just imagine them being nothing but grief.
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The biggest problem with diesel is lack of use. They are no good for regular short journeys, they need to get hot and carry out a regen when required. If you can do this then they should (in theory) be more reliable than a petrol engine.

Me and the wife both have had diesels for the last 10 years, both doing about 12-15k a year, not had one problem in that time.
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My old one,










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they look smart with the bigger wheels but looking at the parkers specs they seem to be lacking a little in the performance engines in both petrol and diesel. I wonder why they don't do an rs version ?
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Have they ever done a RS Mondeo? 😂

My boss has got the Mondeo 2.2 tdci titanium x. He rates it covering about 18k a year but it only averages around 43mpg. He recently had it mapped at MSD, he said it goes better but mpg hasn't improved by anything worth mentioning.
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The 2ltr petrol engine is about 240 bhp but it only comes in a auto.
They do a 2ltr diesel and a 2.2ltr. The 2.2 is just short of 200 bhp and is about 420nm torque. The 2.2 I test drove today went really well.
For the regen do you have to be driving at speed say 60 70 mph for it to regen??

Ritchie your mondeo looked really well. I love the look of your boot install.
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Same as the s max, only auto in prrrol versions and from what I’ve seen online I’d steer well clear of fords auto box.

Had a mk4 Mondeo 2.0 tdci. The ony thing that I had issues with was the power steering pump whining it’s head off. Never found out what was. Abusing the issue after repacking it 4 times and a new rack.
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I've just bought a MK4 Mondeo Titanium X (not a Sport) as a daily. Mine is a 57 plate so pre-facelift. Mine has a manual box attached to a 2.5 five pot turbo petrol engine, so not a bad combo (unless you care about fuel economy ).

Not picked it up yet, but seemed pretty well-equipped and, being a thirsty petrol, was good value compared to the diesels. I don't know what the diesel lumps are like in these. I think they're better than the ones in the MK3 Mondeo.

Think I will try and add the Sport bits to mine and a few other bits. Richie's looked lovely.
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My titanium x was a comfy place to be.
Had enough poke for what it was like. Not heard any horror stories for the derv engines in the mk4 like the Mk3 has.
MikeyRobbo off here had a titanium X with the 2.5 and liked it.
Having a derv and not doing long runs it’ll only be a matter of time before it starts going tits up like all deisels.
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Originally Posted by studabear
Have they ever done a RS Mondeo? ��
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I don't know have they? Merc do all range amgs, BMW do all range M cars, audi rs's etc etc but Ford only do an rs focus, even Vauxhall do vxr's through the range including the people carrier zafira ! Why don't they do full fat Red blooded rs mondeos?

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Never an RS Mondeo but they made RS body kits for the mk1 and possibly Mk2.
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A Mondeo rs would surely appeal to more mature drivers than the focus, especially rs Mondeo estate for practical family men!
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edit....wrong thread...

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Originally Posted by Carlos-Titx
Same as the s max, only auto in prrrol versions and from what I’ve seen online I’d steer well clear of fords auto box.

Had a mk4 Mondeo 2.0 tdci. The ony thing that I had issues with was the power steering pump whining it’s head off. Never found out what was. Abusing the issue after repacking it 4 times and a new rack.
I remember you having problems with your pas on your mondeo. That was a strange one.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
I've just bought a MK4 Mondeo Titanium X (not a Sport) as a daily. Mine is a 57 plate so pre-facelift. Mine has a manual box attached to a 2.5 five pot turbo petrol engine, so not a bad combo (unless you care about fuel economy ).

Not picked it up yet, but seemed pretty well-equipped and, being a thirsty petrol, was good value compared to the diesels. I don't know what the diesel lumps are like in these. I think they're better than the ones in the MK3 Mondeo.

Think I will try and add the Sport bits to mine and a few other bits. Richie's looked lovely.
A few mods to the car you have bought and it could be a flying machine.
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This is the one I went to see on Sunday. I've put a deposit down for it and I'm going to pick it up this Friday.




What a lovely looking car it is. I think so anyway lol. It drove soooo nice and it feels very nippy.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The 2ltr petrol engine is about 240 bhp but it only comes in a auto.
They do a 2ltr diesel and a 2.2ltr. The 2.2 is just short of 200 bhp and is about 420nm torque. The 2.2 I test drove today went really well.
For the regen do you have to be driving at speed say 60 70 mph for it to regen??

Ritchie your mondeo looked really well. I love the look of your boot install.
the figures I was looking at were slightly less. not sure if that's an earlier model.
Titanium
specs

Engine
Power
(bhp)
0-60 mph
(secs)


1.8 TDCI Diesel
123
10.2


2.0 TDCi (140bhp) Diesel
138
10.0


2.0 TDCI Diesel
128 - 138
0 - 9.3


2.2 TDCi Diesel
172
8.4


2.3 Petrol
158
10.2


2.5 T Petrol
216
7.3
what engines the one you've bought?

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Originally Posted by Carlos-Titx
My titanium x was a comfy place to be.
Had enough poke for what it was like. Not heard any horror stories for the derv engines in the mk4 like the Mk3 has.
MikeyRobbo off here had a titanium X with the 2.5 and liked it.
Having a derv and not doing long runs it’ll only be a matter of time before it starts going tits up like all deisels.
The diesels engines in the mk4s are Peugeot engines. I only live a few mile away from work but I will give it a good blast out every now and then. Also I told the wife she can take it to work once a week so it will get a good run out and hopefully it will regen when she has it on the motorway.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
I don't know have they? Merc do all range amgs, BMW do all range M cars, audi rs's etc etc but Ford only do an rs focus? Why don't they do full fat Red blooded rs mondeos?
probably because everyone would be crying about it having 5 doors and there not be a 3 door version available 😭
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Yeh there the earlier ones.

These are the performance figures out of the ford brochure.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
A Mondeo rs would surely appeal to more mature drivers than the focus, especially rs Mondeo estate for practical family men!
Thats where the Mk2 st models come
in to play. But ford never had a rally Sport Mondeo in competition which may be why the RS brand is saved for roadgoig versions like the focus and fiesta.

Originally Posted by Glenn_
I remember you having problems with your pas on your mondeo. That was a strange one.
Yeah the last option we had was to change another pump and the rack at the same time but enough time as spent trying to sort it so sold it cheap and bought that fucking jeep which was an even bigger head ache
now rolling in a grand voyager

hoepfully back in a fast ford later this year. Don’t need a 7 seater now.

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Coolio Carlos. What's the grand voyages like? Arnt these suppose to be one of the world's unsafest cars???

What ford are you after.

Your jeep did look smart.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Coolio Carlos. What's the grand voyages like? Arnt these suppose to be one of the world's unsafest cars???

What ford are you after.

Your jeep did look smart.
for practicality and comfort mate it’s fantastic. Stow and go model so all the rear seats fold flat into the floor and it’s like a van.
and it’s strangely been reliable so far. Just a fuel pressure relief valve failed, swapped out and it’s been spot on.

The jeep looked the part and was a nice drive but Christ was
it unreliable. Just got to much to keep on the road.

Hoping for the Mk3 focus RS. Just got to wait and see how things pan out over the next 10 weeks. Failing that Mk3 focus ST. Or last choice Chrysler 300C SRT 8, 6.1 litre Hemi.
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Looks nice that glen, what's it like to drive compared to the old V6?
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Car looks lovely Glenn. The facelift MK4 looks really smart in Titanium X Sport trim. I reckon the 200bhp diesel goes ok. Can you get a map for it?

On the subject of sporting Mondeo's, the pre-facelift 2.5T Titanium X Sport was badged as the XR5 Turbo in Australia and NZ. The MK2 Focus ST was badged as the XR5 down there too so other places got a MK4 Mondeo ST. For some reason they chose not to badge it as such in Europe.
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Looks nice Glenda!
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Originally Posted by st220kyle
Looks nice that glen, what's it like to drive compared to the old V6?
Thanks..It's just soooo smooth to drive. It's got a fair bit of power too.
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Originally Posted by Carlos-Titx


for practicality and comfort mate it’s fantastic. Stow and go model so all the rear seats fold flat into the floor and it’s like a van.
and it’s strangely been reliable so far. Just a fuel pressure relief valve failed, swapped out and it’s been spot on.

The jeep looked the part and was a nice drive but Christ was
it unreliable. Just got to much to keep on the road.

Hoping for the Mk3 focus RS. Just got to wait and see how things pan out over the next 10 weeks. Failing that Mk3 focus ST. Or last choice Chrysler 300C SRT 8, 6.1 litre Hemi.
The mk3 focus rs are a good car. I'm just shocked about the problems with the engine
I really like the 300Cs too.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Car looks lovely Glenn. The facelift MK4 looks really smart in Titanium X Sport trim. I reckon the 200bhp diesel goes ok. Can you get a map for it?

On the subject of sporting Mondeo's, the pre-facelift 2.5T Titanium X Sport was badged as the XR5 Turbo in Australia and NZ. The MK2 Focus ST was badged as the XR5 down there too so other places got a MK4 Mondeo ST. For some reason they chose not to badge it as such in Europe.
Thank you. I think it's a stunning looking car. I just hope it will be reliable. I've heard and read about a few of these mk4 2.2tdci.s been mapped.
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I've one of the mk5 Mondeo 180bhp Diesels and I can't fault it. Mines a powershift, but I test drove an manual and thought it drove fine. The 2.2 should be a lot faster than mine!
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That mk 5 estates a smart looking car, just needs an rs engine to power it!

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
That mk 5 estates a smart looking car, just needs an rs engine to power it!
They have more powerful V6 4x4 Fusions in the USA which are basically the same car. Can't see it being hard to make a quick Mondeo!
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I really love the look of the mk5 mondeos. Paul yours looks stunning.
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Good choice Glenn, ive had mine 4 years this year and apart from brakes tyres and servicing its been fine so far
mine has a few niggling issues creeping in at 65k headlamp washer packed in, cruise control packed in, just not had chance to fix them yet.
overall the cars been great, what extras has your got glenn? mine has hill assist which is a great function
beware tho the 2.2 is a thirsty beast mine only does about 37mpg overall, frugal on a long run tho. good power specially when you get it moving in 3rd and 4th gear, 1st and 2nd seem boost limited which can be frustrating on a dry road im sure the chassis could take it.
the tyres can be expensive and the fronts don't last long but I fit Davanti's at 100 quid a corner which is pretty good.


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I picked it up yesterday.

It's a 2.2 tdci. So far I love it. Well apart from the engine light is on lol. The car needs a dpf regen. I will do this at work with the computer.

It drives sooo smooth and it's quiet inside for a diesel.

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Looks smart that pal.
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Looks really nice Glenn!
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That's really nice looking that mate
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Thanks people. Hopefully I can get the dpf to regen this week at school.

I got the car home and noticed it had some dice tyre valve caps on. I got to the last one and the cap pulled the metal part of the valve out so I had to take the wheel off and change the valve at work lol.

Bloody cars. There's a few small scratches here and there and a few stone chips but it's a used car at the end of the day. The car has a full service history too . It's last service was at a ford main dealer. It's got a pair of ford genuine wiper blades on. I bet they weren't cheap.


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