dojj

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If realistically money was no object, and you had to have a saph, what's the best spec to be able to use on the road?
Not yesterday's technology, what's out there?
And yes, I know there are better cars out there but for a spah cossie
Engine
Gearbox
Suspension
Brakes
Wheels
The look
Etc

Cheers

Caddyshack

205 Pug Bodyshell Lol

Probably a twin Turbo V10 out of Rs6 or BMW M5 and a nice 6 speed box, AP Brakes and Exectc suspension bespoke to car, Comp wheels. Not sure on colour, will get back to you.

Adam-M

Alloy block with the head bolts down into the main caps
Long rods
Brand new head
Billet crank
Dry sump
Sequential 4x4 box
Borg warner
New management
Wrc rear cradle and fully adjustable front end

Lottery win

Thrush

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Would far sooner have the RS6 or M5 as it is, tbh

Caddyshack

Me too probably but that's a different question as I wouldn't buy them either, I would buy an R8 or the Range Rover that I have.

But modifying a car using bits that you want from donors is different and the car use is different too.

cossynut2

For me a strong 650bhp YB engine and a sequential 6 speed gearbox would be nice. I guess if money was no object and you wanted the Saff body with modern running gear , a new mustang V8 engine would be different.

Caddyshack

I think there is a high chance I will try a sequential 6 or 7 speed in my car at some point...just for the fun and drama of it.

Glenn_

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A cossie isn't a cossie without the engine imo.

Caddyshack

I was having this conversation with a few people recently...for me it is all about the Cosworth lump and cam cover especially. I would not run a billet cover for example and even if there was a far cheaper and easier to tune engine (which obviously there is) I wouldn't want it in my 205

smiley

Agreed it's why that engine has found it's way into so many other cars nothing quiet sounds like that burbling a yb gives

2.2 s&j engine 600+
close ratio box with wide 5th bomb proof diffs for full throttle launch
Custom suspension suited exactly to car
Ap's big enough to handle stopping
TH2 alloys or comaradoras (Or however it's spelt)
Body std colour black

massivewangers

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Basically, this:

by https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruschettini/, on Flickr

I've never really seen why people think they need a billion horsepower. Maybe on a track but, other than that, it's just willy waving because you can't really use it. A good B-road thrills me way more than any track ever could.

The appeal of Cosworth for me comes from the fact that it is a car of it's time. An unmodified Group A rally Saph would do me just fine. With a 38mm restrictor, you have mountains of mid range punch, coupled to a dead short gearbox to get you up to speed, with great brakes and proper suspension (for the period at least).

While I get why some might want to fit a modern turbo/ECU and a multi-link rear end, for me, if you take away the turbo lag, the noise and the slightly flawed suspension, you've taken away the essence of the car in my opinion. You might as well just buy something else.

smiley

Thiers a lot of high power cosworths out thier and has been for decades some people want big power and are able to drive them on the road super cars wouldn't exist if that were true they are built for the road not track I've heard it so many times to powerful for our roads were is McLaren? It's all personal preference like yours the things you say take away the essence of a cosworth are aids for higher performance and advancements to a modern version I won't wave my cock about just enjoy the buzz from the adrenaline it gives theirs two kinds granted the show'ers and the goers thier always has been you won't find a mirror under my car

ajamesc

I’d build or buy rods if it’s purely for road use

c20tbo

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What i currently have in my escort in a saph id be happy with

Adam-M

I do partially agree with you, I’d love a modern spec 4x4 that handles well and has a fast spooling 500hp engine which I think is the max I could use in my area and have an oldskool laggy 2wd. For me the first thing that made me fall in love with a cossie was the power delivery, they feel so fucking fast compared to more modern turbo cars and you will loose that mighty midrange surge with a new turbo.

The above is my goal with my two sierras but it’s going to take a long time

cossynut2

The T5 gearbox regardless of it being standard or modified has always been the one thing that holds the Cossie back. It would be great to have a gearbox that allows fast and smooth changes.
I am just going to try a new Concentric hydraulic clutch conversion on mine, the write ups on them seem very positive.

smiley

Oh it takes years alright only way I can do it 6 and counting

cossynut2

I do agree with what you say about the "character " of a cossie, Its all down to personal preference, some want to modernise everything they can which suits them and some still like it to be a 90s performance car. I hate seeing Saffs with a boot load of speakers and screens mounted on top of the seats etc.To me its the wrong car to do that to.
Was out in my old school 2wd yesterday in the freezing cold and it never fails to make me smile at the way it performs.

gcfcos

For me I'd have mine mint bodywork wise looking standard with lattices on but everything else updated with nice drop on gaz golds and mega engine and transmission/suspension but nothing too crazy as I would still want it to feel like an old Cossie as that's what puts a smile on my face when I drive it

Glenn_

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I would want a cossie that could keep up with motorbike speeds.

cossynut2

Depends on what motorbikes you are talking about Glenn, a lot of big bikes these days are 180-200mph straight out of the showroom with lightning quick acceleration. I think you would be talking 650-700bhp with a sequential box to keep up with them!!
I have had some good fun with motorbikes and suprised quite a few and got given the thumbs up on a number of occasions.

Caddyshack

I remember cossie Dave telling me a bloke on a 1000cc bike tried to pull a way from him
And when he caught Dave up he was asking what had been done to it

smiley

The classic vid of rainbird v r1

costina

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Nail head bang on👍

Adam-M

Bloody frustrating mate mine “only” been sitting for 2 years now and the list just keeps on growing

ajamesc

I’m about 4 years in now lol gaging to bolt mine back together hopefully this summer I’ll be driving it

Marc sierra

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Mike's Sapph was a 2wd.

Caddyshack

The one in the pic is def 4wd so who's was it?

Adam-M

One in the video is LHD

Caddyshack

What the R1?

smiley

the rainbird vid I remember from back in the days on here he deffo did an r1 he was hero to us rs turbo boys we were to young to afford cossies and insurance lol I just typed it into tube thought that was it still good though

lee2cossies

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Rainbird beat an r1 at bruntingthorpe, performance ford magazine feature, also the first too crack 180mph, he then crashed it and it got re shelled into a white saff by someone else. He moved onto an escort cosworth.

smiley

Cheers Lee yes thiers loads of vids on YouTube of his white escos just can't find the one of his saph it was on thier was some time ago I miss them days the scene was awesome but I like how once again thiers some monsters getting built and not just cars getting returned to standard

turbotrev

Spot on there mate, I had 500hp and although the car was a beast you want more so I’m going more power now, it’s all about fun and the feeling the car gives for me, yes it’ll prob have too much power than it really should but a huge turbo when coming on boost is awesome, so what if it can’t be driven to its full potential on the road all the time and yes it may spin the tyres a bit, but it’ll put a huge smile on my face for the few thousand miles a year that I do in it and that’s what it’s about for me.
I also like the idea of keeping some elements of the cossie ‘old school’ too as I find it keeps more of the characteristic of the original car

Cheers Paul

turbotrev

I was just about to say that lol

Cheers Paul

turbotrev

That’s cos people weren’t worrried about them being an investment or what they were worth, they just enjoyed them more back then

Cheers Paul

smiley

Exactly the same as me mate the thrill of getting that power down just right when you have more than you need is awesome getting to know exactly when it's going to break loose that's driving for me that's excitement an adrenaline junkies dream I like to be scared

smiley

True mate and understandable but great to see thier owners still building monsters I thought it was going to die off totally for a while

turbotrev

I like to be scared too!! Ha ha

Def an adrenaline thing

Cheers Paul

Fullflush

Money no object you would just put the AG Focus in a road shell

Greatest cossie ever made