smiley

Anybody looking at a cosworth do not think its just an old sierra even my 60 yr old female dentist neighbour knew what one was she came round for a look hearing me start it weekly "oh its a cosworth" you cant play down such a car its no sleeper

ajamesc

Youngsters of today don't have a clue lol. Mines been out of action for a while now so I can only tell the lads at work some know as they went in it but the new ones who are young go on about new civics and stanced 325i's and shit like that. One was telling me about the new celica saying about its power to weigh and how it's a B road basher lol. All I can do is laugh and say when it's back and fully mapped your get the shock of your life

smiley

Lol yes i guess the young uns dont we will educate them lol

cossynut2

What I mean is that with a Saff it could just be completely standard or modified like mine and a lot of others.You cant tell them apart and one of the many amusing things that have happened to me was I was coming up to a dual carriageway and an Audi RS4 was right up my exhaust flashing his lights for me to get out of his way, This was of course a bit silly as when i left him behind he would not come behind me again even though I slowed down to allow him to catch up! A typical case of not thinking an old Saff could out perform his new Audi.

smiley

Lol i see what you mean mate i had the same with an amg merc pulled over let him get level dropped it a cog and waved love it did Ł150 in fuel that day

3drRich

Thanks for all the input guys. I have now had a long chat with a tuner and I think after weighing up the pros and cons I think I'm going Borg Warner with after market management.

I was very surprised what can be achieved with this set up in terms of bhp and general reliability and turbo lag etc etc so seems like the way to go.

ajamesc

Carfull way things are going with the hole new v's old your be an out cast

3drRich

I know lol. I love the old school setups but being as I'm starting from scratch I thought I'd try the new stuff out

ajamesc

Ha ha fair play why not mate

Mad_Mat

If I had the money I would go for a setup like this: oh yes

Its what probably 10 large for the motor then the same again on the running gear / transmission to take the power.
20 large ones is outta my league but you should definitely do it Rich

turbotrev

Hole new v's??

Cheers Paul

turbotrev

Good stuff buddy

Cheers Paul

ajamesc

It's a joke

smiley

Your just tighter than a submarine door mat bring it back i made a mistake good to meet you mate

turbotrev

I guessed that I just don't understand it

Cheers Paul

ajamesc

Every thread on here about what set up turns into an old set up v's new set up lol your normally involved I thought you of all people would have got it

Caddyshack

That Oppliger setup for 800 bhp would be way more than a Ł10k engine IMO for a reliable motor and I agree on the transmission although I think that one had a sequential box in it so by the time you have done an R n D diff at the front to take the power thats Ł3.5k, plus a rear beam, the box and rear diff.

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

A 200 block and long stud are the best basis for a 500 build tbh that cuts out 2 massive weaknesses out

cossynut2

I dont think Ł10k would be half what that engine would cost plus sequential box and everything else that would need to be uprated to take the power. You would need very deep pockets to get that set up!
Was it just me but in the video it seemed that every time he put his foot down it just wheelspan?
Getting these massive power engines to be able to get it down to the road always seems to be the most difficult part?

Mad_Mat

look after the pennys the pounds will look after themselves. That what my mum taught me A pleasure doing business scott. Looking foward to seeing your bonkers power project finished get on with it bud.

gcfcos

My grandad used to say that too

Mad_Mat

Absolutely, Build the bottom end strong first.

smiley

Very true mate im 7 yrs in on this project the only way i can do it is bit by bit so your either minted or patient i'll be older than rod by the time its finished

It's Czech Mate

Whoever came up with the Tag 'Borg Resistance is Futile' is a fucking legend

Real tears

Mark Shead

Mark

Rod-Tarry

Ive been 18 years on mine. The problem is development has not stopped & Turbo's , ECU's & knowledge has kept leaping forward. So take you time & listen to what you are told by those who have kept up with the advances. If its 500bhp your after remember that's just a peak figure its what goes on below it that counts the Torque curve you hit on every gear change is what shifts you down the road not a pub talk 500bhp. Torque comes with Boost so Spec/restrict your engine to make your Power at high Boost remember you are bolting an air pump to your engine so use it. My old 500bhp engine ran 2.9 bar back in 1999 & massive Torque don't do it that way you will end up with an old school Torqueless wonder.

turbotrev

Tbh I struggled to read what you wrote because of the spelling but I see what you mean now.

Nowt to do with me though.

I can live without being in the cool kids gang

Cheers Paul

Caddyshack

Very true.

Wonder what turbo it has (wink wink)

Cossie Dave said to me that he didn't get wheelspin on his 700bhp setup. I do get a bit with my skinny tyres and much less power although the 6 degree seems to be fine in the dry. I think that 800 bhp car was driven aggressively and was set up like that too...does go though and isn't unruly, he has it in control the whole time but Romain Oppliger knows how to pedal from what I have seen of his exploits.

Caddyshack

Watched it again, I don't think it is spinning all that much...,more like whipping through a super close ratio, sequential, gearbox...just really fast from 5-8500 ish rpm....big torque would do that.

Maybe some spin is exaggerating the effect....he posted a vid of a straight line pull and the speedo wasn't keeping up...he said it was a common problem.

ajamesc

Probably why I'm a spanner monkey who plays with lorries on the side of the road at all hours and not an office worker but hay ho don't worry me

smiley

Turbotrev prepare for asimalation 😂😂

turbotrev

Snap.

I'm a spanner monkey too

Cheers Paul

turbotrev

I'm always ready.
Don't have a choice on here ha ha

Cheers Paul

smiley

on a serious note mate is yours a 2wd? I have a tubular manifold that allows you to run bigger turbo if your interested ext wastegate for cheap

smiley

Double post

turbotrev

What manifold is it buddy?

If op isn't interested

Cheers Paul

smiley

Came off a jg rally x engine running 500+ brought in error early on has a plate on it with kiwi stamped on it see if i can find a pic paul

Adam-M

I was always under the impression that torque was always over and done with by 5250rpm?

Caddyshack

[QUOTE=Adam-M;6726910]I was always under the impression that torque was always over and done with by 5250rpm?[/QUOTE

5250 is the cross over point in the equation. Torque x rpm / 5250....not sure if your post was a question or trying to show something about me writing torque in stead of the word power as per the discussion earlier about revving nuts off cars on track....which is what I think you were getting at?

Torque is the twist, bhp is the work done.

Change my word of torque for power and people seem happier with the understanding.

Caddyshack

A car with 200 torque needs 15,000 revs to make 571 bhp, a car with 400 torque makes 571bhp at 7500 rpm. So the oppliger car is making about 530 lb ft to give 800bhp at 8000 rpm.