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stoner 04-11-2016 05:55 PM

I fear I may have over paid for this.
 
Hello I bought this car but I don't know too much about in terms of value but it drove very well and looks nice. Let's be honest what's done i done I bought it but be brutally honest. Tell me if I made a fool out of myself in terms of the price.

It's a 1992 Ford Sierra 4x4 CLX Estate with a 2.0 engine. According to the paperwork it was first registered by Ford Werke AG as a repmobile. It has a factory RS body kit. I paid 2500 euros for it. Was this a fair price? It will get a YB swapped in but for now I may bolt a small turbo onto the 2.0

Cheers

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...93ae0cf055.jpg

studabear 04-11-2016 06:04 PM

Dunno if its dear or not, but if its in good condition and your happy with it then its all good.

Looks nice, any more pictures?

stoner 04-11-2016 06:09 PM

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Adam-M 04-11-2016 06:09 PM

Can't be far from its price, rare car nowadays!

gcfcos 04-11-2016 06:14 PM

That looks bloody lovely that mate. I'd say with the price of these cars going up every week then it sounds fair. Bet it's sluggish with the 2.0 twin cam and 4x4? Be awesome with a yb in it, keep us updated on that job matey!!

Jay, 04-11-2016 06:30 PM

That looks like a bit of a bargain with the rare spec ect looks a lovely car that

Vacuman 04-11-2016 06:30 PM

£2,200 or so - about right if it's as good as it looks, no rot and everything works.

My inclination, if you are worried about value, is to keep it original. You will spend a lot more than the €2,500 on either of the engine changes you mention unless you are a great mechanic with access to all the tools, parts and technology needed.

If it were in the UK, RHD and all genuine, low mileage, no rot etc. I'd be happy paying £2k - perfect for my fishing trips.....

Caddyshack 04-11-2016 06:36 PM

Seems fair to me, cool car

ajamesc 04-11-2016 07:02 PM

I'd love a huge power moonstone cosworth estate lol be such a sleeper

gcfcos 04-11-2016 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by ajamesc
I'd love a huge power moonstone cosworth estate lol be such a sleeper

That would scare the fook out of a few unsuspecting folks lol

Cos500 04-11-2016 07:08 PM

Fair price, looks a good car, shite engine, shame it's not the 2.9 but although sluggish will do plenty of miles

big_wasa 04-11-2016 07:52 PM

Well it's not like they are making any more is it. It's worth what your willing to spend on it.

Glenn_ 04-11-2016 07:55 PM

Bargain imo. Even the price of normal sierras are shooting up these days.

lesley7 04-11-2016 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by stoner (Post 6704440)
Hello I bought this car but I don't know too much about in terms of value but it drove very well and looks nice. Let's be honest what's done i done I bought it but be brutally honest. Tell me if I made a fool out of myself in terms of the price.

It's a 1992 Ford Sierra 4x4 CLX Estate with a 2.0 engine. According to the paperwork it was first registered by Ford Werke AG as a repmobile. It has a factory RS body kit. I paid 2500 euros for it. Was this a fair price? It will get a YB swapped in but for now I may bolt a small turbo onto the 2.0

Cheers

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...93ae0cf055.jpg

if you intend to drive it in this country being a left hooker i would say you gave to much but what a rare car sorry to be doom & gloom

stoner 04-11-2016 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by lesley7 (Post 6704475)
if you intend to drive it in this country being a left hooker i would say you gave to much but what a rare car sorry to be doom & gloom

It's being shipped to the USA

Adam-M 04-11-2016 08:40 PM

How much did it cost to ship and how long will it take?

stoner 04-11-2016 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6704482)
How much did it cost to ship and how long will it take?

It hasn't left Germany yet but shipping is about 2k USD and it will take over a month. It will leave November 16 and arrive December 20.

Fullflush 04-11-2016 08:50 PM

So the car stands you at best part of 5k?

Really its worth what YOU would pay for it, clearly there are a lot of good cars you can get for that money, but to you, this might be your exact dream car?

Adam-M 04-11-2016 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by stoner (Post 6704483)
It hasn't left Germany yet but shipping is about 2k USD and it will take over a month. It will leave November 16 and arrive December 20.

Will the seller drive to the docks for you or does some delivery company do that? Just curious.

stoner 04-11-2016 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fullflush (Post 6704485)
So the car stands you at best part of 5k?

Really its worth what YOU would pay for it, clearly there are a lot of good cars you can get for that money, but to you, this might be your exact dream car?

It's certainly a dream car of mine. I have been looking for one and they are few and far between. The 4x4 is a bonus and in black with the RS body kit. I truly would have hated myself if I didn't buy it.

The US never got the estate only the Mk1 3 door briefly.

Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6704486)
Will the seller drive to the docks for you or does some delivery company do that? Just curious.

The dealer drove it to the shipper who will put it on a truck and take it to port.

JasonPD 04-11-2016 09:01 PM

Looks like a really nice clean estate - I'd love one with a YB in :DD:

Takes me right back as I had an estate 20 years ago :shocked:

Also, love the front grill, unusual compared to U.K. Spec I think, makes it look like a miniature Granada.

cossynut2 04-11-2016 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by stoner (Post 6704487)
It's certainly a dream car of mine. I have been looking for one and they are few and far between. The 4x4 is a bonus and in black with the RS body kit. I truly would have hated myself if I didn't buy it.

The US never got the estate only the Mk1 3 door briefly.

The dealer drove it to the shipper who will put it on a truck and take it to port.

It looks in really good condition and is a very rare car so I dont think it was expensive. There certainly wont be many others like it in the US. Good luck with it.

stoner 04-11-2016 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by cossynut2 (Post 6704496)
It looks in really good condition and is a very rare car so I dont think it was expensive. There certainly wont be many others like it in the US. Good luck with it.

I doubt there is another Sierra estate in the US at this time. Which is a shame as I will have to get body panels straight from overseas if need be.

Adam-M 04-11-2016 10:56 PM

There won't be many YB engines over there either

stoner 04-11-2016 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6704508)
There won't be many YB engines over there either

I know of 2

visa_broke 05-11-2016 02:41 AM

looks a good buy and good to hear its going somewhere there are none, nice to be different.

How will this fair with importing it if there is nothing for them to judge it again or has it hit the age that it can be imported easier

rallycross 05-11-2016 08:23 AM

That looks to be a very tidy clean car, it's a very rare spec so I think you paid the right price for it - European used car prices tend to be much higher than our UK used prices anyway.

Will be good fun with a YB installed.

stoner 05-11-2016 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by visa_broke (Post 6704520)
looks a good buy and good to hear its going somewhere there are none, nice to be different.

How will this fair with importing it if there is nothing for them to judge it again or has it hit the age that it can be imported easier

It was assembled on December 13, 1991. It will arrive by boat to the US on December 20. It will have just 25 years old upon arrival which makes it a lot easier to import into the US as a classic.

Yes the irony "the land of the free" (it's not) won't let you bring whatever car you want until it's 25 years old. 24 years 364 days? They freak out and will crush it if you don't ship back. 25 years and 0 days? Yeah it's fine. FFS......

gjh 05-11-2016 11:09 AM

Looks like a nice buy that, seems a very fair price, keep us updated on it!

steppy 08-11-2016 06:28 PM

that looks lovely, i think the price is fair for it

Supercharge6 08-11-2016 10:40 PM

Looks good for the money - about right as people have said. You could wack a low pressure supercharger on that engine for the time being and it would take it all day long. The valves on those engines are HUGE lol. Fantastic for exclusivity especially in the US - nobody will have a clue! And yeh, crazy US rules - the list is endless!

dojj 08-11-2016 11:01 PM

abs was optional but loads came with it but worth having

also spotted the ac so that's a way way bigger optional mark up

so in that respect it's fully loaded other than the ghia dash stuff and electric rear windows

PAUL S 12-11-2016 01:05 PM

I would happily have paid that for it, lovely retro mobile in superb order.

YB will the the icing on the cake, or a nice good old USA crate motor :-)

stoner 08-12-2016 02:54 AM

Well the car shipping was pushed back and it has just boarded its ship in Bremerhaven and it will arrive in Long Beach, California (Los Angeles area) on January 9th or so. I also received the German paperwork for it as well. I didn't know Borbet made Ford's RS wheels.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...02531d77e8.jpg

Man I wish it could get here. I don't know what to do with myself. I'm stocking up on dashboard parts from the Merkur XR4TI.

Marc sierra 08-12-2016 08:04 AM

That's a nice car with a nice optione, 4x4, ABS, aircon, RS kit. Estates are getting rare now in general, so you have a very cool one! I haved never liked the RS grill though, it doesn't match with the rest of the car in my opinion. It's a bit of a shame though that the drivers seat is swapped for a GT one and doesn't match the rest of the interior.

stoner 08-12-2016 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Marc sierra (Post 6710154)
That's a nice car with a nice optione, 4x4, ABS, aircon, RS kit. Estates are getting rare now in general, so you have a very cool one! I haved never liked the RS grill though, it doesn't match with the rest of the car in my opinion. It's a bit of a shame though that the drivers seat is swapped for a GT one and doesn't match the rest of the interior.

I never noticed. I'll swap it for a full leather interior eventually so I couldn't care less to be honest.

dojj 10-12-2016 01:35 AM

Good luck sourcing estate rear seats in leather, as far as I was able to find out, they made 3, and I had one of them

Easier to get the cloth replaced, simple to remove it from the seat frame, just don't lose any of the 5,000 little clips that hold the material in place :cry:


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