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Old 13-08-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
Why? Pattern parts have been around for a long time and generally are well made, as others have said they have fitted them and had no problems. The guy has not had loads of bids yet so maybe he will realise he is asking to much.
With any cosworth fuelling is the most important thing.
I know 3 people who have had surge issues with aftermarket tanks.
sweeping bend low fuel lean condition oh engine rebuild.
I would Pay that for a genuine tank.
Old 13-08-2018, 08:42 PM
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The tank has been on my car over 4 years now and I've had no probs with fuel surge at all.

if I didnt think the tank was up to the job I wouldnt of fitted it.
Old 13-08-2018, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The tank has been on my car over 4 years now and I've had no probs with fuel surge at all.

if I didnt think the tank was up to the job I wouldnt of fitted it.
How would you have known if it was faulty before fitting it ?
You can't tell me every new part you fit at work is right first time.
Old 13-08-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
I may appear on this thread soon lol, I think it's time to clear out some of the spares I have
All you have to do is sell them on for a sensible price, not think of a number and quadruple it like some greedy sellers seem to do when it comes to Cosworth parts.
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Old 13-08-2018, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
How would you have known if it was faulty before fitting it ?
You can't tell me every new part you fit at work is right first time.
Why would you be thinking a brand new petrol tank was faulty. Pattern parts are made for nearly every vehicle on the road including all the prestige cars.My friend has a BMW X5 and has recently had some repairs done using pattern parts with no problems.
How many of our Saffs, Escos,3 doors etc have got pattern parts fitted to them when the old original ones have become faulty, loads of them have I bet.Alternators, starter motors, power steering racks, track rods etc etc.
Old 14-08-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by costina
How would you have known if it was faulty before fitting it ?
You can't tell me every new part you fit at work is right first time.
The reason I changed the tank for was cause it was leaking.
Old 14-08-2018, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
Why would you be thinking a brand new petrol tank was faulty. Pattern parts are made for nearly every vehicle on the road including all the prestige cars.My friend has a BMW X5 and has recently had some repairs done using pattern parts with no problems.
How many of our Saffs, Escos,3 doors etc have got pattern parts fitted to them when the old original ones have become faulty, loads of them have I bet.Alternators, starter motors, power steering racks, track rods etc etc.

Well said matey. Not all of us cause spends thousands on our cars.

How many people put non genuine discs and pads on there cars for example.
Old 14-08-2018, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano


you should start producing them mate, you’ll make some money
yes I do. But unlike some I’m not out to rip off or make a killing. I have reasonable priced parts to help people not pay stupid prices for “original” Ford parts.
Sapp sill clips, wing brackets for front skirt, jacking point covers, towing eye cover, spoiler cap covers, 3 door spoiler caps and more. I don’t advertise much, mostly by world of mouth or recommendations.
I’m not copying parts I’m making better items. Lots have my sill clips and they are very happy . Even sent some to Sweden.
Old 14-08-2018, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Sapphire from Fords heritage collection, the fit was/is exactly the same as my cover that I supplied to him, some folk are a bit too anal about their cars lol :cry
My new jacking point covers These are the ones I make.

And below are towing eye covers Repro towing eye cover


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Old 14-08-2018, 08:12 PM
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Rob they look quality matey.
Old 14-08-2018, 09:08 PM
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Put a lot of time into doing parts right


Even did white to match my sills


Old 14-08-2018, 09:18 PM
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Looks like you have a lot of skill with the plastic parts you are making, when painted the matching colours they must look really good!!
Old 14-08-2018, 10:04 PM
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They look good, but i'm no painter lol. Got a start on some mk2 escort parts also

Old 15-08-2018, 12:32 PM
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Fair play to you Rob nice looking parts.

3dr spoiler caps and saff caps would be a good seller.

And if on a std clutch set up how about the plastic part the clutch arm rests on for the T5 box?
Old 15-08-2018, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by robrs2


yes and yes. But sorry I’m not giving the files out
Fair play, ill just have to sit in one night and design some... Means ill never make any lol.
Old 16-08-2018, 09:20 PM
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SIER...edirect=mobile
Old 16-08-2018, 09:25 PM
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Yet another greedy seller!!! Not only does he want silly money for the badge but wants to make money on the postage as well!!!
Old 19-08-2018, 07:52 PM
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Defo been greedy when other sellers are selling them for about 30 quid.
Old 19-08-2018, 08:00 PM
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Just been looking at S1 RS Turbo spoiler caps £70 for 3, used
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Silly money.
Old 20-08-2018, 09:58 PM
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Another over priced part the boot jacking cover screw for the mk1 sierra. So i started a replacement for it.

Old 21-08-2018, 07:13 AM
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Good on people for remaking parts that’s what I like on the escos forum

glenn you’ll be glad to hear that there’s someone remaking saff cossie bumpers
Old 21-08-2018, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by robrs2
Another over priced part the boot jacking cover screw for the mk1 sierra. So i started a replacement for it.


awesome mate
Old 21-08-2018, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
Good on people for remaking parts that’s what I like on the escos forum

glenn you’ll be glad to hear that there’s someone remaking saff cossie bumpers
Yeah but he still would not buy one.
Prices do go up and he should have got one 2 years ago when he first posted.
Old 21-08-2018, 08:38 AM
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robrs2 I think you could have the potential to get a good business going with your skill at reproducing parts.There must be hundreds of parts for all types of classic cars which are no longer available or if there are any, being sold for crazy money so I think what you are doing must have a good future.
Old 21-08-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
robrs2 I think you could have the potential to get a good business going.
Yes it’s possible. But there seems to be a problem with parts not being original Ford parts. It seems fine for someone to ask silly money for original ford parts but ask a reasonable sum for a new replacement part and all of sudden it’s not ok or it’s questioned about being plastic so it will break.

Anyway besides that. I have had a few very happy people use my sapphire sill clips and a lot of requests for other parts.
Old 21-08-2018, 09:20 PM
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What you are producing is pattern parts which loads of us use, so I don't see a problem.
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If some one could remake saff cossie window seals and door rubbing strips they would make a small fortune.
Old 23-08-2018, 09:26 AM
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That's what you think but the cost of remaking stuff is very high. For example I would need to sell 42 sets of the sill clips I have to recover my costs. As I started doing the clips for my own car I'm not too bothered. I guess I'll get there one day
​​​​​​​Door strips and window rubbers would need tooling to be made and the cost of that is way out of my league. If someone does them don't expect the price to be less than someone selling new old stock
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Originally Posted by robrs2
That's what you think but the cost of remaking stuff is very high. For example I would need to sell 42 sets of the sill clips I have to recover my costs. As I started doing the clips for my own car I'm not too bothered. I guess I'll get there one day
Door strips and window rubbers would need tooling to be made and the cost of that is way out of my league. If someone does them don't expect the price to be less than someone selling new old stock
exactly that mate, the tooling costs of reproduction parts is very expensive. I shopped around to get my moulds made for saph jack covers which cost me a few grand, one company wanted 20 grand to make the moulds, suffice to say I continued looking around. When I first started selling them I wanted to do them fairly cheap but a well known trader around the ford scene said to me “no come in high to recoup your production costs and there is room further down the line to adjust the price” I’m glad I listened to him, I have got my mind set of other products and the next project the tooling will cost me 5 grand, that’s a fair bit of money and a calculated risk, I’d have to sell a fair few of them before I’d start making any profit.

can you post a shot of the reverse side of your jack cover s please fella
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This bit? The top is not right yet. The corners need rounding off


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Originally Posted by charlie luciano


exactly that mate, the tooling costs of reproduction parts is very expensive. I shopped around to get my moulds made for saph jack covers which cost me a few grand, one company wanted 20 grand to make the moulds, suffice to say I continued looking around. When I first started selling them I wanted to do them fairly cheap but a well known trader around the ford scene said to me “no come in high to recoup your production costs and there is room further down the line to adjust the price” I’m glad I listened to him, I have got my mind set of other products and the next project the tooling will cost me 5 grand, that’s a fair bit of money and a calculated risk, I’d have to sell a fair few of them before I’d start making any profit.
Making injection mould tools is a labour intensive and costly process, I considered making a tool at work for Escort Cosworth wheel centre caps as the used prices are crazy.

They would be really tricky to make in the same way Ford did and I doubt I would get close to breaking even with such a small market !
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I'm going to try them over winter. It's a bit of a challenge for me on the dark nights
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Well said matey. Not all of us cause spends thousands on our cars.

How many people put non genuine discs and pads on there cars for example.
I am so sorry you don't understand what I was trying to get across.............

Yes your original tank was leaking so you replaced it for a aftermarket tank. Which is fine I was just stating a fact that I know of 3 aftermarket tanks where there was a problem with fuel surge.
so in my opinion if I could still be able to get a new old stock tank I would. As it's not really a big price to pay.

And like I said how do you know your new aftermarket tank is ok before you fit it.?
Do you drive it hard ? Do you track it ? Have you a 15k engine? If the answer to all 3 is no then your probably be ok.

And yes I do use quality aftermarket parts on mine and yes I have had new genuine items fail too.

I think ajamesc has a aftermarket tank and I think he is using a swirl pot system in the boot.

Like all cars if you cannot afford them don't have them and don't complain about prices.
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I seen this earlier. Somebody making 3d printed escort cosworth centre caps.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Esco...s/283120130683
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Originally Posted by maxturbo
I seen this earlier. Somebody making 3d printed escort cosworth centre caps.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Esco...s/283120130683
I wonder what material they're printed in ?
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Originally Posted by costina
With any cosworth fuelling is the most important thing.
I know 3 people who have had surge issues with aftermarket tanks.
sweeping bend low fuel lean condition oh engine rebuild.
I would Pay that for a genuine tank.
I've got to chop a big lump out of mine to clear the right hand exhaust - probably best if I either tidy up the old one or use the new pattern part
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
I've got to chop a big lump out of mine to clear the right hand exhaust - probably best if I either tidy up the old one or use the new pattern part
Mark just check the swirl pot is the same as the original some have metal ones and the original has plastic type.

I am sure you will understand what I mean if you have both.
Twin pipes on a sierra nice touch.

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Originally Posted by costina
Mark just check the swirl pot is the same as the original some have metal ones and the original has plastic type.

I am sure you will understand what I mean if you have both.
Twin pipes on a sierra nice touch.

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I'm pretty sure the pattern one is metal as I asked before buying as was going to powder coat it, didn't want to melt the insides
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
I'm pretty sure the pattern one is metal as I asked before buying as was going to powder coat it, didn't want to melt the insides
It's the pick up pipe for the pump is the problem on other tanks from memory it goes up from pot then down if that make sense hence why fuel surge on low fuel conditions.

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