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gcfcos 08-08-2015 09:19 PM

Wow what's happened?
 
Just been on eBay and some other sites to get a guide price of what my saph cossies worth as insurance coming up, apart from auctions I couldn't find one under £10k!! I'm happy as my cars worth a lot more now but blimey I'm glad I bought mine for £3500 when I did all them years ago lol!

studabear 08-08-2015 09:22 PM

There is a nice 4x4 on here at around £8500 iirc

gcfcos 08-08-2015 09:38 PM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by studabear
There is a nice 4x4 on here at around £8500 iirc

Sweet at least mines grown £5k in value in 8 years, not bad investment. I'm just happy that I know no matter what ever happens to mine I'll never be without another one as the insurers will have to pay out so i can get another one :-)

Glenn_ 08-08-2015 09:51 PM

The prices are defo rising. So is the price of parts.

gcfcos 08-08-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The prices are defo rising. So is the price of parts.

Yeah I reckon it's time to start stockpiling some more parts. Must be cause of all the ones that have been broken up for parts over the years has pushed the prices right up. When i bought mine there were hundreds for sale

Adam-M 08-08-2015 11:19 PM

My loft is full got a good deal when I bought my cossie, bought it off my mate he has been hoarding parts for 10 years lol

gcfcos 08-08-2015 11:50 PM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by Adam-M
My loft is full got a good deal when I bought my cossie, bought it off my mate he has been hoarding parts for 10 years lol

That's a good plan :-) I been collecting bits as and when they come up too cheap to turn down. As long as the aftermarket stays strong there shouldn't be a problem for most stuff. I imagine one day body panels and doors etc will become impossible to find. Also the engines will probably double what there worth now the rarer they get

dojj 09-08-2015 10:03 AM

cosworth specific stuff will always be worth more, but the general run of the mill sierra stuff always gets "cossie" put into it as this then triples the value :cry:

don't know how much stuff i threw away over the years or gave away, i'm not that interested in the hoarding if parts now as i was 15 years ago when i had enough spares to build at least 2 complete cars :cry:

Glenn_ 09-08-2015 10:38 AM

Ive got a few spares too. I always look on ebay for cossie parts then a save the link to parts and see what they sell for.

There was a pair of saff cossie front fog lights that sold for over 2p0 quid.

ajamesc 09-08-2015 10:49 AM

I do wonder if this is a bubble though. Yes there iconic and that makes them valuable but with are generation that grew up with cosworths. If you ask a 18 something now about cosworths like the 3 lads at my work they don't care or know what a Sierra is. So there's no way on earth there pay 10 grand plus for one

dojj 09-08-2015 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Glenn_ (Post 6613878)
Ive got a few spares too. I always look on ebay for cossie parts then a save the link to parts and see what they sell for.

There was a pair of saff cossie front fog lights that sold for over 2p0 quid.

But they are just the same as the standard fog lights :cry::cry::cry::wall::wall::wall:

gcfcos 09-08-2015 12:22 PM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by ajamesc
I do wonder if this is a bubble though. Yes there iconic and that makes them valuable but with are generation that grew up with cosworths. If you ask a 18 something now about cosworths like the 3 lads at my work they don't care or know what a Sierra is. So there's no way on earth there pay 10 grand plus for one

That's true. Mind u the new apprentice at work is only 16 and he's helped his dad restore a mk1 escort Mexico I think it is (light blue with dark blue stripe) and wants a yb powered mk1 escort himself so not all is lost

ajamesc 09-08-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by gcfcos (Post 6613905)
That's true. Mind u the new apprentice at work is only 16 and he's helped his dad restore a mk1 escort Mexico I think it is (light blue with dark blue stripe) and wants a yb powered mk1 escort himself so not all is lost

There still be enthusiasts but I don't think there be the die hard ones who grew up watching them race who are prepared to spend the numbers some do now! Before I busted my engine if I took mine into the workshop it hardly got a look! But nippers low lupo with orange wheels or the other ones super low 318 e36 they was all over them lol

RichieST 09-08-2015 06:25 PM

Majority of kids these days want new stuff, it's so easy to get in to a new car these days so there is no need for a youngster to need or want to tinker with something older.


Give it another 10-15 years and I don't think there will be any love for cossies etc!

Adam-M 09-08-2015 06:35 PM

I totally agree I have been saying this for a while, I'm only 22 and I really like cossies but all my mates don't like them and prefer more capable imprezas and evos ect. Most cossies owners will mostly be in their 40's I highly doubt there will be much interest in 15 years, I mean what youngster wants an old ford that's only causes paranoia pmsl

Glenn_ 09-08-2015 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by dojj (Post 6613904)
But they are just the same as the standard fog lights :cry::cry::cry::wall::wall::wall:

Yeh they are lol.

jameswrx 09-08-2015 06:47 PM

I went past a little showroom in Rye the other day and they have a white Saphire cossie in the window for £15k!

RB26DETT 09-08-2015 06:50 PM

Don't know what it's like in the UK, But young lads love Sierras over here! (Although most of them are non cosworth)

How many are even left? The amount stolen, burnt out, crashed, broken for parts must be astronomical. Just look how many classic Fords have a YB fitted.

Getting a decent Cosworth is getting harder and harder. Prices arn't going to go bonkers, But I can see a decent Cosworth with MOT going for the £15k mark in a short few years.

There will always be young guys into Cosworths, I bought mine in January (At 20) Even though I can't drive the fucker for another 5 years due to insurance! I still love everything Cosworth! :top:

gcfcos 09-08-2015 07:09 PM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by jameswrx
I went past a little showroom in Rye the other day and they have a white Saphire cossie in the window for £15k!

Some on eBay at that price too

gcfcos 09-08-2015 07:10 PM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by ajamesc
There still be enthusiasts but I don't think there be the die hard ones who grew up watching them race who are prepared to spend the numbers some do now! Before I busted my engine if I took mine into the workshop it hardly got a look! But nippers low lupo with orange wheels or the other ones super low 318 e36 they was all over them lol

Yeah this is true. All the little boy racer cars that came in to work all the nippers are like wow that's well nice! I'm stood there looking around thinking something else has driven in the workshop lol

jameswrx 09-08-2015 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by gcfcos (Post 6614013)
Some on eBay at that price too

Just had a look, this is the actual car!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...item3aaf3b34a9

I'd assumed it was some 50k mile minter lol

Adam-M 09-08-2015 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by RB26DETT (Post 6614003)
Don't know what it's like in the UK, But young lads love Sierras over here! (Although most of them are non cosworth)

How many are even left? The amount stolen, burnt out, crashed, broken for parts must be astronomical. Just look how many classic Fords have a YB fitted.

Getting a decent Cosworth is getting harder and harder. Prices arn't going to go bonkers, But I can see a decent Cosworth with MOT going for the £15k mark in a short few years.

There will always be young guys into Cosworths, I bought mine in January (At 20) Even though I can't drive the fucker for another 5 years due to insurance! I still love everything Cosworth! :top:


I've noticed that gum tree is covered in Sierras from Ireland with welded dIffs ect all going for strong money. The weird thing is all the adds always say in the description (not bora, golf, 306, xsara, twin cam) lol you tell if a car is forsale in Ireland as all their titles are like that lol

JasonPD 09-08-2015 08:59 PM

I guess as the price of the 3 doors appear to be shooting up, the ripple effect is the next in line cosworth will begin to increase.

I too had noticed there is little under £10k that I would want to get involved in, either too modified, knackered or no history.

Not sure if it is just a summer thing and prices maybe settle come winter? Saying that, I purchased my car with ice on the roof in Fife in December and once I'd decided I was going to get one I didn't care what the weather was like.. :DD:

Adam-M 09-08-2015 09:09 PM

I haven't noticed there being any more for sale this summer compared to winter.

gcfcos 09-08-2015 09:11 PM

Wow what's happened?
 
I couldn't find one on auto trader just normal sierras going for daft money. Piston heads only has 2 for sale. Most must have been broken by now

Adam-M 09-08-2015 09:42 PM

Think people are just Wanting to keep hold of theirs as if they sell them it will be hard to replace if they wanted another.

Cos500 09-08-2015 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=JasonPD;6614060]I guess as the price of the 3 doors appear to be shooting up, the ripple effect is the next in line cosworth will begin to increase.

Next in line? Had both and the sapph 2wd is a far better car just more plentiful imao

Adam-M 09-08-2015 09:49 PM

I'm the same mate I prefer the saph to the escort and 3dr. I may be the only one but I prefer the look of them.

gcfcos 10-08-2015 07:19 AM

Wow what's happened?
 

Originally Posted by Adam-M
I'm the same mate I prefer the saph to the escort and 3dr. I may be the only one but I prefer the look of them.

Yes I'm also strange like that lol!

gcfcos 10-08-2015 07:20 AM

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[quote=Cos500]

Originally Posted by JasonPD (Post 6614060)
I guess as the price of the 3 doors appear to be shooting up, the ripple effect is the next in line cosworth will begin to increase.

Next in line? Had both and the sapph 2wd is a far better car just more plentiful imao

I think there's less saphs than 3 doors left I'm told?

Rod-Tarry 10-08-2015 07:54 AM

Time will tell what happens to prices of Cosworths. Mk1 Escorts, Lotus Cortina's & 60's sporting Fords have not fallen in price so maybe they will follow suit. I will be pushing up daisies in 15 years time so I wont be around to find out.

Cos500 10-08-2015 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6614089)
Think people are just Wanting to keep hold of theirs as if they sell them it will be hard to replace if they wanted another.

If I'd not picked mine up in bits for a couple of k I'd never have had another, rule of cossies you buy it for 15k you need another 15k to put it right.

Glenn_ 10-08-2015 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by jameswrx (Post 6614032)
Just had a look, this is the actual car!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...item3aaf3b34a9

I'd assumed it was some 50k mile minter lol

Lol at the price of that. It looks a bit of a mess.

Jay, 10-08-2015 09:47 AM

Shit the bed I wouldnt have the the front to ask that for mine and i would say mine is miles better than that not including the spec lol

DanW@FastFord 10-08-2015 10:33 AM

The question you have to ask is are they actually selling at that price?

One person chances his arm and asks 10k for an average Saph, then everyone else thinks theirs it worth 10k so chucks them up for sale. It doesn't mean they're actually worth 10k...

This seems to happen a lot in the Ford world!

Adam-M 10-08-2015 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=gcfcos;6614116]

Originally Posted by Cos500

I think there's less saphs than 3 doors left I'm told?

Wouldn't be surprised and they are the first to get ripped to bits and probably most likely to get nicked over the years as they used to be cheap and parked out on the street ect.

Don't know if how manys left is accurate to go by.

Adam-M 10-08-2015 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord (Post 6614164)
The question you have to ask is are they actually selling at that price?

One person chances his arm and asks 10k for an average Saph, then everyone else thinks theirs it worth 10k so chucks them up for sale. It doesn't mean they're actually worth 10k...

This seems to happen a lot in the Ford world!

Totally agree!

RB26DETT 10-08-2015 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6614040)
I've noticed that gum tree is covered in Sierras from Ireland with welded dIffs ect all going for strong money. The weird thing is all the adds always say in the description (not bora, golf, 306, xsara, twin cam) lol you tell if a car is forsale in Ireland as all their titles are like that lol

Yup, The scene here with young lads is Diesel Audi A4, VW Passats and Golfs/Boras. Done 'Felt Spec' Massive visors, Cheap coilovers, Replica Wheels, Powerflow exhausts and make it boo/choo.

Then you have the RWD guys, So Altezzas/IS200 anything BMW & Sierras.

Most of the RWD guys know what a Cosworth is, But can't afford one. Hence nearly every 'Cosworth' you see here is a replica.

If anyone is half thinking of buying an E36 325i/328i M-Sport, Do it now. Even a 318is.
Guarantee there next to rocket up in price over the next few years.

cossynut2 10-08-2015 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Adam-M (Post 6614092)
I'm the same mate I prefer the saph to the escort and 3dr. I may be the only one but I prefer the look of them.

I have always liked the look of a lowered Sapphire on 17 or 18 inch wheels but I am biassed as I have had mine for 21 years!

cossynut2 10-08-2015 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Adam-M;6614168]

Originally Posted by gcfcos (Post 6614116)

Wouldn't be surprised and they are the first to get ripped to bits and probably most likely to get nicked over the years as they used to be cheap and parked out on the street ect.

Don't know if how manys left is accurate to go by.

There are now more 3 doors than Sapphires. The good Sapphire Cosworths will start to increase in value as they get rarer and rarer.


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