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Old 08-08-2015, 03:59 AM
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I don't know much in way of turbo's so wanted to know advantages/ disadvantages of external wastegate over internal wastegate and difference in performance between the two

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Old 08-08-2015, 07:46 AM
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Greater boost control with a external at higher pressures.
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Give a hp est and turbo used helps.
Most of my yb run int gates and most of my evos run ext gate.

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Old 08-08-2015, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Give a hp est and turbo used helps.
Most of my yb run int gates and most of my evos run ext gate.

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Any reason for the difference between the yb and shevo?
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
Any reason for the difference between the yb and shevo?
The main reason is I chose to have my manifold for yb made mainly for int as it's cheaper and easier to fit and you can keep the stock heat shield and tech only a small loss in top end power but the Efr with int gate has smaller housing so tech better spool.
The Evo I buy the manifold in and the main kit is base on ext but you can get int gate but needs a diff rad on Evo 7 plus so stayed with the known route.

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Is there a rule of thumb on sizing external gates Mark?
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
Is there a rule of thumb on sizing external gates Mark?
If a turbo has a sensible size exhaust housing and the flow through the gate is of good design then a 44mm tends to fit the bill well,
If the gate is to small you get boost creep as the revs rise this tends to be less of a problem as you raise the boost as the gate flows less through it th4202 e more boost you run, Again this is correct if the housing is not to small,
You tend to find odd set ups if you spec the wrong turbo,
A GTX4202 turbo will flow a flat 1.5bar with a 44mm gate if everything is correct on a YB and the gate flow much less at 2.8bar as the energy is used to raise the boost rather than bypass the turbo housing.

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