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Old 25-02-2015, 07:04 PM
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Default How much to budget for a tidy sapphire cosworth?...

Be in the market shortly for one of these...
Not too fussed on colour or 2wd or 4wd, Either is good to me...
Would like a tidy one, Prices seem to vary a lot and seem to have gone up over the past year...

How much is a sensible amount to budget for a tidy sapphire?...

Thanks guys.
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10-15k imo, that's where they are imo, 15k would be a low miler, mint etc, or a good spec ROT free car.
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Old 25-02-2015, 07:12 PM
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Still plenty of nice ones out there, better than 8 years ago when I was looking, was just loadsa old shit back then lol. I'd love to have a black one (oooh er missus) or a magenta is my favorite
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You are in the best position as you have no preference to colour or 2 or 4wd as Pete has said 10-15k is the rate at the minute it took me a year before I found my one but I was after a black car but was offered a lot of wronguns but worth holding out to save agro
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Thanks for the replies!
Are they really selling for £15000 though? or just advertised at that...
I was thinking around 8-10k...
Old 25-02-2015, 07:54 PM
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What Staffi said, try look on enthusiast club websites, loads of crap on ebay etc and from traders adding ££££s to rubbish cars just because its got cosworth on the boot lol. Buy from an owner who has taken care of the car.Good one do come up from time to time.
Old 25-02-2015, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by D1on
Thanks for the replies!
Are they really selling for £15000 though? or just advertised at that...
I was thinking around 8-10k...
Only the very best low miles,or massive spec cars would sell at those prices id think, 8-10k should get you a nice example.
Old 25-02-2015, 08:07 PM
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If its any help mines nearly done 60K miles, 2wd and I'd estimate it to be worth about 12k ish.

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Didn't realise prices had gone up that much. I wouldn't expect any more than £11k for mine









Anyone want to do a deal with an Escort?
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Mike yours is worth more than 11k all day long
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Andypen and Mike your cars are stunning. There that clean and tidy i wouldnt dare drive them.
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Old 26-02-2015, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fatboy billy
Mike yours is worth more than 11k all day long
I agree 100% it looks like a new car! If it was mine I would want £15,000 minimum.
Old 26-02-2015, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by saphcosmike

Anyone want to do a deal with an Escort?
i'll do a deal with my Mk1 FRS.....had her 7 years and fancy a change
Old 26-02-2015, 08:26 AM
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8-10k would get a usable one in good condition IMO...those saying £15k are looking at cars of a high standard IMO
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15k is alot of money for a saff imo. I would rather save that bit extra and get a escos.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
15k is alot of money for a saff imo. I would rather save that bit extra and get a escos.
Have you seen the price Escorts are asking though Glenn?? Time's have changed, it's kinda sad too because people will simply stop using their cars because of how values are going, spares etc.

I mean you go to Natianal Day etc now and count how many Cossies are on track? Cast your mind back to 5-7yrs ago they were full of cossies and it was a great sight, sadly those days have gone imo
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
15k is alot of money for a saff imo. I would rather save that bit extra and get a escos.
Glenn, Saphcosmikes car is like new, how much time and money has he spent to get it up to that standard, an Escort Cosworth to the same standard would be at least £25k. If I didnt have a nice Saph myself I would buy it today.
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Pete i defo agree matey loads of saffs have been broken and like you say they are starting to go up in value cause of this. I love fords and cossies but i think 12k is mad money for a sierra with a posh engine. It will be interesting to see what the price of them will be in 5 years time.
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Cossynut. Yeh i see what you mean matey. Mikes car is stunning like a lot of other people's cars on here. I take my hat off to you all.
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Us cossie boys need to keep them alive and on the road. Far to many GOOD saffs have been broken.
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Good 2WD cars will be the ones that will command strong money ( imo anyway) and that's not a dig at 4x4 owners before I get flamed

Best driving Cosworth for me is the 2WD Sapphire
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This is a tough one I have been trying to price mine for a while I would like to see 12 for it but like Glenn says it seems crazy for a old saff
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i agree best driving cossie-2wd saph as standard as poss
as far as values £6.5-£9k for a real tidy car-imho
any more than that i would like to see either a restored minter sub 4 owner car
or an original showpiece-condition 1 completely unwelded
lots of people jumping on the price bandwagon-there are two prices for everything-one to decorate the classifieds-one to sell ...

and having had a few they can swallow cash real quick-especially for those rs only parts lol

all that said for us oldies they are a bit of an icon,an 80s classic no doubt
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
i'll do a deal with my Mk1 FRS.....had her 7 years and fancy a change
Escort and I'd be all ears
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£8k-10k I'd say.Over that for something with low miles and easily a concours entrant. Entirely your choice but I wouldn't pay top money for a really nice car you intend to use, but if it's for show then I'd stretch the budget a little further.
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They wont be many saffs that havent had welding done to them.

Pete loads of people say 2wd saffs drive the best. I would be scared of the ass end when the fooker come on boost lol.
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From advertised prices, I wouldn't want to be looking at buying anything less than £12k unless I wanted a project. £10k might just scrape you something decent if you're careful.
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Originally Posted by Jay,
This is a tough one I have been trying to price mine for a while I would like to see 12 for it but like Glenn says it seems crazy for a old saff
Dont forget,in December 2014 there were only just over 500 2wd Sapphires still road registered, there are more 3 doors out there now. As more get broken they will become rarer and so prices will rise.
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I cant believe there are only 500 2wd saff cossies left. Thats just mad. How many were made?
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
I cant believe there are only 500 2wd saff cossies left. Thats just mad. How many were made?
Hence what I posted in post 21 above Glenn about 2WD ones
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£8-£10K will get you a very nice Sapphire. Keep in mind there are a lot of shit bags advertised for far to much at the moment.
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Funny how most of the high-ballers are Saph owners eh.

Most owners who think their car is 10k+ aren't driving a 10k+ car in my opinion. Owners of average cars see top end cars for strong money and think that because theirs has half a dozen coats of autoglym and is nice and shiny, that they're up there with the best and advertise them at a similar level.

But then owners of the genuine minters see these average cars advertised at ~10k and think 'well I'm not selling for the same price as that car when I know mine is better in X, Y or Z way' ...so I'll stick it my car up for a bit more; and so the cycle goes round and round.

Tony66 has got it spot on IMO... £10,000 should buy a brilliant Saph. It won't buy a concours winner or an ultra low mileage/low owner car; but it should buy a car which will need NO serious money spent on it for quite a while.


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Originally Posted by Staffi
Hence what I posted in post 21 above Glenn about 2WD ones
I have just re insured mine. Think my agreed value is a bit low lol.

And its never been welded.
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Funny how most of the high-ballers are Saph owners eh.

Most owners who think their car is 10k+ aren't driving a 10k+ car in my opinion. Owners of average cars see top end cars for strong money and think that because theirs has half a dozen coats of autoglym and is nice and shiny, that they're up there with the best and advertise them at a similar level.

But then owners of the genuine minters see these average cars advertised at ~10k and think 'well I'm not selling for the same price as that car when I know mine is better in X, Y or Z way' ...so I'll stick it my car up for a bit more; and so the cycle goes round and round.

Tony66 has got it spot on IMO... £10,000 should buy a brilliant Saph. It won't buy a concours winner or an ultra low mileage/low owner car; but it should buy a car which will need NO serious money spent on it for quite a while.


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I agree I would be better off stripping all the good stuff off mine and returning to standard and selling off the bit there is probably another 6k there but then you could say the same about the mk1 focus people advertising them for 10k ect and quite clearly sell at around 6 -7k matter of fact show me a RS that isnt over priced at the moment
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Blimey, prices have risen a lot.
TBH I don't see them that high.
Mine is 1993, k reg, air con, leather (I have spare minty Rainbow trim), 114k miles, 18" comps (have std sharktooths), Nouveux Red, had blow over as 2 panels were marked, rot free, not seen rain in 12 years lol, but I only see that around the £8k mark (perhaps I am wrong)
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its about what you are willing to pay ,and if a saff rocks your boat over a escos or 3 dr then pay as much as you feel comfortable with .

too much attention payed to values nowadays
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Originally Posted by jason_nike
Blimey, prices have risen a lot.
TBH I don't see them that high.
Mine is 1993, k reg, air con, leather (I have spare minty Rainbow trim), 114k miles, 18" comps (have std sharktooths), Nouveux Red, had blow over as 2 panels were marked, rot free, not seen rain in 12 years lol, but I only see that around the £8k mark (perhaps I am wrong)

No you're right Jase cus it's crappy 4x4
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Buy a car to use not as an investment imo.
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The cars haven't gone up just a lot of people over pricing IMO

Agree a good car is worth what ever someone is willing to pay & I would pay £10k + for the right car but the majority of them are shiters being sold by chancers.
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3OK on a Escort cossie or 30 k on this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aston-Mart...item234acca292

now thats a hard choice lol


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