Veyron at Vmax
#41
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So he'd got 4 Ferraris there, lucky man. I bet his collection would make Bonkers jealous (if Bonkers still has his collection???).
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He's deffo not short of a few quid, see the link below:
http://m.insidehalton.com/news-story...unson-family-/
http://m.insidehalton.com/news-story...unson-family-/
#46
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Disagree you may but Topspeed running is my bag . You need to gain 100m to get an extra second on the throttle at the bottom end so it makes no difference as speed gained at 200mph in 1 second is rather limited.
MikeR proved it years ago came hacking around the bottom bend best was a 180.3 run. Lined up from a standing start & set a then record of 180.9mph first time.
I agree it helps the clutch which is why we use the bend but much more efficiently than the Vmax boys do.
#47
That depends how hard the car is still accelerating in that 1 second. From GPS logs back in 2010 when I did mine at Woodbridge,
My car is well off the boil at that point, but even in the 1 second to 200mph, I gained 2mph.
ie 198mph to 200mph was 1 second.
Some cars still accelerating much harder would be gaining a lot more
In the 1 second prior to 190mph I gained a 3.9mph.
1 second prior to 180mph 4.6mph
Datalogs from this year at Elvington, car going much better, but still room for improvement
It was only 1km, so will only sue the 180mph time and 1 second prior it was 7.1mph gained in 1 second and covering 78m
So every little bit of extra distance and time does matter.
My car is well off the boil at that point, but even in the 1 second to 200mph, I gained 2mph.
ie 198mph to 200mph was 1 second.
Some cars still accelerating much harder would be gaining a lot more
In the 1 second prior to 190mph I gained a 3.9mph.
1 second prior to 180mph 4.6mph
Datalogs from this year at Elvington, car going much better, but still room for improvement
It was only 1km, so will only sue the 180mph time and 1 second prior it was 7.1mph gained in 1 second and covering 78m
So every little bit of extra distance and time does matter.
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Disagree you may but Topspeed running is my bag . You need to gain 100m to get an extra second on the throttle at the bottom end so it makes no difference as speed gained at 200mph in 1 second is rather limited.
MikeR proved it years ago came hacking around the bottom bend best was a 180.3 run. Lined up from a standing start & set a then record of 180.9mph first time.
I agree it helps the clutch which is why we use the bend but much more efficiently than the Vmax boys do.
MikeR proved it years ago came hacking around the bottom bend best was a 180.3 run. Lined up from a standing start & set a then record of 180.9mph first time.
I agree it helps the clutch which is why we use the bend but much more efficiently than the Vmax boys do.
Last edited by turnover; 25-10-2014 at 09:09 PM.
#49
Testing the future
if you go from a standing start you can start further back than the point at which you come around the bend and join the straight - it's perfectly feasible that you can accelerate to or beyond the speed at which you come off the bend in that distance.
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Only been my interest for 15 years what the hell do I know .
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#53
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I have been there for a drift day and it only became obvious once I was reminded that you start further back from the standing start. If not then the corner would give an advantage if it allowed you to be at a higher speed than crossing the same point at a standing start.
The corners are quite open and we were able to slide the car at over 100mph (Track prepped 911 on road tryes) but the expansion gaps tore the tyres and the paint work suffered.
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Well to be fair we were provoking lots of sideways stuff...I certainly would not do that on the way to 200 mph and my porker was pretty much all said and done by about 150mph on the best runs
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Well if your such an expert Rod ,I suggest you fit a descent clutch so you can do a standing start if that's going to make you faster top end,oh wait you've got around 800 hp and nos surely the clutch can't be that bad then,strange why you'd do a rolling start then?
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I used to love the launch starts on rally cross though...it is amazing they didn't break more often all those years ago with so much power. I think Will Gollop was around 2.5 seconds to 60 or something daft.
#58
I guess it depends what you're classing as a record.
Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc
But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.
Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol
That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.
Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc
But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.
Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol
That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.
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I guess it depends what you're classing as a record.
Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc
But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.
Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol
That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.
Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc
But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.
Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol
That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.
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maybe it's got some thing too do with the fact a rwd 800+ bhp Sierra will just spin it's nuts off in 1st 2nd and 3rd
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No not at all you were saying fit a better clutch and do a standing start. Was just saying he no doubt starts with a little mechanical sympathy so not to brake something
Last edited by ajamesc; 31-10-2014 at 05:39 PM.
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Even at 180mph at TOTB mine was still breaking traction.
Oddly, with Hoosiers at 20psi, I had to abort 2 runs around 170mph as I had no grip whatseover, could barely even touch the throttle.
888's worked better, just barely hanging on in 5th gear, but they still let go a little around 180mph.
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Airfields may be rougher than typical roads, but they have anything but good traction, well for 2wd cars anyway.
Even at 180mph at TOTB mine was still breaking traction.
Oddly, with Hoosiers at 20psi, I had to abort 2 runs around 170mph as I had no grip whatseover, could barely even touch the throttle.
888's worked better, just barely hanging on in 5th gear, but they still let go a little around 180mph.
Even at 180mph at TOTB mine was still breaking traction.
Oddly, with Hoosiers at 20psi, I had to abort 2 runs around 170mph as I had no grip whatseover, could barely even touch the throttle.
888's worked better, just barely hanging on in 5th gear, but they still let go a little around 180mph.
My friend took his Mac F1 to brunters and did not break 200 mph. He had the full Maclaren support package with him. He has since acheived the highest customer recorded speed though on an autobahn.
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What an odd thread.!
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Rod has only ever seemed nice, genuine and honest when I have seen him on here, he is a nice bloke to talk to and is certainly an asset to this forum as he regularly posts....oh and he did get the record so I too find the comments a little insulting.
#80
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Rod will always have haters lol and I don't think it really bothers him. One thing is for sure there hate even more come next year when his old boat sets new records and moves the goal posts yet again