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Old 24-03-2005, 08:02 PM
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Oh and Morrisons is BP fuel ................ I had to deliver a tanker full as part of my trraining
Old 24-03-2005, 08:18 PM
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does any supermarket have optimax delivered to them
Old 24-03-2005, 08:23 PM
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There are no real call for Supermarkets to sell High Octane fuel mate , there are even some BP sites that dont sell Ultimate
Old 24-03-2005, 08:26 PM
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im sure at one time when bp ultimate came out it was rated with a octane reading of 102 but was very expensive correct me if im wrong
Old 24-03-2005, 09:00 PM
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Guys.,..

A tanker is just that... its got fuck all to do with whats inside!

In fact the truth is that ALL fuel is delivered from the closest Refinary! All comanies from BP to Shell share the facilities/trucks etc. The only exception is Shell Optimax which is only made from the New Haven Refinary.

Supermarket fuel IS NOT THE SAME as other brands!

I've seen the chemical analysis of fuels when I worked at ford and we were looking into fuel in oil dilution (bore wash to most people!).

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Old 24-03-2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Deano
Which when you think about it is good economics , if you spend say Ł75 on a weekly food shop they reward you with knocking a couple of quid of the price of a fill up but theyve already made Ł50 off you from the shopping
Im sure asda work on the principle of making 1p profit for every Ł1 you spend, but your right on the whole principle of them inviting you in with cheap fuel

Shell optimax for me in the RS though!

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Old 24-03-2005, 09:25 PM
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Oh and Morrisons is BP fuel ................ I had to deliver a tanker full as part of my trraining

I saw a Texaco truck delivering to Morrisons on the Docks at Preston so unless they have changed suppliers since.....
Old 24-03-2005, 09:29 PM
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like I said Daz...

its just a tanker!

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Old 24-03-2005, 09:32 PM
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i use Morrisons SUL in mine. its cheap and seems really good.

my car runs like shit and dets like crazy on normal unleaded. when i use BP Ultimate, it was good, not as good as Optimax though. i'd personally rate Morrisons SUL equal to, or over Ultimate imo.

different cars at different specs will behave different though.

btw. LRP should make no difference in RST, surely even S1's had hardened valve seats?
Old 24-03-2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
Supermarket fuel IS NOT THE SAME as other brands!
Alex - as you appear to know what the score is here - so what IS the difference exactly?
Not just 'different additives'.. what are the differences, and what effect do they have?
Old 25-03-2005, 01:17 AM
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strike me down but...

i thought ultimate and optimax were both 97 with 'extras'

total sell super unleaded that is 98.

car runs fine on all of them tho...
Old 25-03-2005, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Escy
ibtw. LRP should make no difference in RST, surely even S1's had hardened valve seats?
LRP don't do any good for ya plugs, makes them go a horrible brown colour

S1 had normal seats, only RST's after 86 had hardened seats
Old 25-03-2005, 11:34 AM
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the seats were the same apart from the cloth u must have bought your s1 off a fat fooker....
Old 25-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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Old 25-03-2005, 11:55 AM
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All depends which way I drive atm. Top of my road and turning right is the Shell station and if I turn left is the BP.... Depends who has the deals on 2 bottles of Diet Coke for Ł1.20
Old 25-03-2005, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by richm
Originally Posted by J871yhk
Supermarket fuel IS NOT THE SAME as other brands!
Alex - as you appear to know what the score is here - so what IS the difference exactly?
Not just 'different additives'.. what are the differences, and what effect do they have?
I know a little...

The difference is how the petrol is blended...

It all starts from base stock, same with any oil.... and as people on here have said yes there are basic standards the fuel has to meet. Things like sulphur content being a very important one.

From that point you add lots of other chemicals into your base "petrol":

Frition modifiers
Detergents
Anti-Foaming agent
Detonation surpressents (e.g Teraethal Lead now banned!)

And its the quantites and qualitiy of these extra's if you like that determins how good the fuel is.

A super market can save a load of money by ordering high detergent fuel... with very little else in it. Its cheaper for them to buy but also remember they tend to order absoulty loads of fuel in one go!!!

Alex
Old 25-03-2005, 01:14 PM
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Get your cars over to Germany boys Shell have got a 100 RON fuel and goes by the name of V POWER, my cossie runs a treat on it
Old 25-03-2005, 06:17 PM
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get to japan and have 110 RON!

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Old 26-03-2005, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Westy
is BP Ultimate good stuff?
BP Ultimate is top stuff my cossie performance is noticeably better
even better than optimax, and far better than the Total super unleaded I used before. It may cost abit more but I think it's worth it.
Old 26-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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dont risk your engine for the sake of a couple of quid!
this has been disscussed in great length on here b4 and it was agreed optimax is the only way to go!
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