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Old 09-11-2013, 09:24 PM
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Default Boss sent me on a course today :)

Well the boss put me on a one day course for welding what a brill day

My first go tell me what you think

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The bottom plate is my arc side are mig

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I'm happy with it lol but I would be
Old 09-11-2013, 09:29 PM
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I did nvq level 1 and got a distinction. I love welding but they don't do level 2 anywhere near where I live!

If you're on facebook check the page 'welding porn' afuckingmazing.
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Lol I'm bloody hooked now lol got my self a cheap Clarke arc welder off a mate and now looking to get a mig

But the boss got a sip 181dp I think that's what it's is and I'm been let loose with it Monday can't wait lol welding skips allday

I thinking to go for another course too
Old 09-11-2013, 09:39 PM
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Teach yourself to weld a car, then you'll be able to weld thicker stuff.

I was taught to weld using 1.2 mig wire with amps of 110-120.

Try that on a car and holes galore from burn through as I'm used to being able to put lots of heat into the material in welding.

I'm quite handy with a stick welder & gas. But can't Tig
Old 09-11-2013, 09:41 PM
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The novelty will soon wear off trust me!! Haha!
Old 09-11-2013, 09:48 PM
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Yea proberly will

I will practice bit more before I go on cars
Old 09-11-2013, 09:51 PM
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Anit it ment to be a continuos weld for mot ??
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i love welding i at one point did it every day for work and im competant in mig tig ark and gas welding, i was coded in tig and mig welding but that has expired now no doubt, as sad as it sounds nothing gives me greater pleasure than sticking 2 pieces of metal together lol! mig is the most versatile of all welding you will do so concentrate on that
as ajc says learn on thin and thick will come naturally with time, it can be difficult to start on thick metal and go backwards to thin stuff. your welds above look fine too me. crack on and enjoy
Old 09-11-2013, 10:14 PM
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Don't worry try doing it everyday and you'll soon get bored,
Not bad for a first try
Old 09-11-2013, 10:18 PM
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Thanks
Old 09-11-2013, 10:19 PM
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I would love to learn how to weld. Is it a case of having the correct amp's for the type of metal thickness and having a decent wire feed?
Ive seen a few gas less welders, are these good for beginners?
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avoid gas less if you can, most colleges will do a course that will be more than enough to get you started if not the mig welding forum (google search)~ is more than enough to get you started then its just practice practice practice! its a hell of a lot easier than you think!
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Originally Posted by botters
avoid gas less if you can, most colleges will do a course that will be more than enough to get you started if not the mig welding forum (google search)~ is more than enough to get you started then its just practice practice practice! its a hell of a lot easier than you think!
Cool i will have a look on that forum
Old 09-11-2013, 10:45 PM
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iv borrowed a welder and been doing a fair bit of practicing so i can put my cage in. i struggled most welding 3mm to 1mm as the heat needed for 3mm would burn 1mm. same thickness metals is easier and im ok on that now but its a hard sport to learn.

penetration is key
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its easy doing it with nice clean metal, trying doing it on a rust bucket were you grind and grind trying to find something to weld to
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Id like to have a go at welding done plenty of gas axing total opposite lol... I mite buy a welder and learn... im sure the welder wil come in handy on my saph in years to come lol..

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Ive just been lookng on the mig welding forum as suggested above and its quite smart
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I'm a welder and use MIG, Stick and TIG at work... with TIG being my favourite.

That's not a bad result for your first go at it mate.


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Originally Posted by chris cdti
I would love to learn how to weld. Is it a case of having the correct amp's for the type of metal thickness and having a decent wire feed?
Ive seen a few gas less welders, are these good for beginners?
I found mig was easy but arc very hard. At first as u git to get the arc going and keep it there and u have to do all the work feeding the electorde ect but I really enjoyed arc as I like a challenge I wana try tig and I wana learn how to use a plasma cutter
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Only done lead welding with gas and air. Got good at it, but lucky for me I haven't had to do it for years as it's a long slow job as it can only be done at low heat compared to other metals.
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Nice does it smell?? Is it hard to do ??
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Originally Posted by chris cdti
I would love to learn how to weld. Is it a case of having the correct amp's for the type of metal thickness and having a decent wire feed?
Ive seen a few gas less welders, are these good for beginners?
Forget gasless, buy yourself a normal mig, and buy a pub co2 bottle from these guys, iirc it was Ł33 for the first bottle and 13 for every refil. The small bottles halfords sell are a waste of time

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i'm old enough to have learnt to weld with arc and gas as they hadn't invented mig back then

passed my courses and stuff but from what i can remember, arc was a bastard on anything but the thickest metals and gas was fairly easy

migged my car and what a ball ache that was to get right as the light meant i kept welding the wrong bit
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Lol I was told to use both on cars as arc sticks are good for small spaces and mig brill for every thing eles
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Ive been waiting for the past 3 years to go on a welding course.

It will defo help me out owning rusty fords.I could of saved a fortune on my cossie buy now for welding.
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Originally Posted by fraser9764
Forget gasless, buy yourself a normal mig, and buy a pub co2 bottle from these guys, iirc it was Ł33 for the first bottle and 13 for every refil. The small bottles halfords sell are a waste of time

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Is pub gas ok?
I was told they put something in it to spoil the weld as so many of them were getting stolen!!!!
I've got 2 huge bottles out the back I can't get rid of,but if their ok ill keep them?
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Witch is best for stainless exhuast and ally i mean welding wise ??
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Originally Posted by Pockets2012
Witch is best for stainless exhuast and ally i mean welding wise ??
TIG for those bud.


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That does look ok for a 1st timer, done some oxy accetyline welding in the past, found it a bit tricky to get hold of but I got there in the end, really want to get myself a mig, think its a great skill to learn, and the possibilities with projects cars becomes endless!
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Get yourself a speedglass welding helmet, you'll find it a lot easier when welding on the car. I use one everyday, the best investment Ive made in years.
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Sounds good
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Originally Posted by Pockets2012
Witch is best for stainless exhuast and ally i mean welding wise ??
AC TIG for aluminium and magnesium, DC TIG for just about any other metal. Worthwhile equipment is very expensive and it's a lot harder to learn than mig or stick, but well worth it due to the versatility and superior weld quality.
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Originally Posted by vaughant
Is pub gas ok?
I was told they put something in it to spoil the weld as so many of them were getting stolen!!!!
I've got 2 huge bottles out the back I can't get rid of,but if their ok ill keep them?
No idea on that to be honest, they sell co2 'pub' gas for welding so their stuff is fine, but I dont know about actual pub bottles. I only do a bit of mig and arc for a hobby, made a big set of gates for the back of the house,a massively over engineered workbench, and bits on my own car.
I believe that argon is better for thin panel work but ive always done ok with co2
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I may have to try tig ill have to see if there a course or any 1 close that could teach me would love to make my own cat back n that
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I'm wanting a welder np it not sure what to get, as I love the look of tig but mig much more practical, but tig more versatile, as I've got to weld my 3 door not sure what to buy as cant afford both!
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Buy a decent mig and you'll be able to run stainless wire through it if you need to weld or patch up anything stainless , you'd need a different liner and gas but cheaper than buying both if your struggling for cash .
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I may have to stick with arc and might try diffrent wore etc
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Originally Posted by Harryh24
I'm wanting a welder np it not sure what to get, as I love the look of tig but mig much more practical, but tig more versatile, as I've got to weld my 3 door not sure what to buy as cant afford both!
For the majority of welding on a car, especially panel work, you'll find mig much more useful. Unless the fit up on what you're welding is perfect, tig won't be much use to you.
For the likes of T45 roll cages/chassis, stainless/inconel/titanium exhausts and aluminium work, tig is the only way to go.
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As said Argon is the better. You'll get a better and a hotter weld using Argon than CO2.
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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice
For the majority of welding on a car, especially panel work, you'll find mig much more useful. Unless the fit up on what you're welding is perfect, tig won't be much use to you.
For the likes of T45 roll cages/chassis, stainless/inconel/titanium exhausts and aluminium work, tig is the only way to go.
But arc is good for small spaces so im told becuase of mig gun way to big

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