JOHNDQ

Why would you do that you would lose money

rallycross

sounds interesting how does that work with the UV lamp?

155lee

iTrader: (10)

No,they are fully trimmed road cars that have been broken up for spares as is the way with most cosworths and everything sold on including the honest I.d which goes who knows where.
How many 1.1 2 door escorts are wearing rs/Mexico number plates and chassis tags now,probably more than 50% at least

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

so that makes it right does it?
Just like that escos that was on eBay with rs2k id, not for me im afraid but everyone is entitled to their own opinion

botters

iTrader: (2)

ford did it themselves with a lot of the rally cars mk1 escorts, mk2 escorts cossies etc....

It's Czech Mate

Purely because they couldnt turn the cars round quickly enough between events, slightly different, as these were never likely to be sold on as road cars to other folk

Cossie Sean

ok, turbocab.....

i have sold atleast 6 cars that have been reshelled using the rotten cars id`s, new owners didnt care as there were phographs before and after of honest cars.

tell me this, these focus, mk3/4 escorts that have cossie floorpans fitted, are they re-registered as sierras?

no.

what is a chassis number/VIN

have a think about it

im not being arsey here, as you cant read emotion on forums ok << see, smiley face!

just a conversation between friends

i personally dont see an issue with it, its commonly done, as said before Ford was rife with it in motorsport!

the chassis/shell is just a part like any other on the car.

how many perople done declare new engine numbers?

same shit different smell

and taking a UV lamp......... when i reshell things its full seamsealer`d seams and several layers of Schutz, UV hasnt got any chrystal balls

i can see right and i can see wrong, but not black and white.

how many times has your speedo went above the limit?

its a crime.......

doesnt matter if you puched your dick in your other halfs arse or fanny, when she`s asleep its a crime!

155lee

iTrader: (10)

The escos with rs2000 Id was probably a motorsport shell,never seen it and not once have I said ringing is right.
I'm saying that it happens a lot more than you would like to believe.
Your name suggests your cab is a turbo,is that declared with the dvla?
Not being arsey either but this is the way I see it,I'd rather have a mint shell than a piece of paper that says 'rs' on it so I'll never ring a car for any reason,I would not buy a car that had it's identity swapped unless there was a genuine reason and proof of the exact story as to why it had been done,like it was a brand new unused shell.

fsteward

any one no if its still for sale i could do with this ?

Psycho Warren

iTrader: (5)

You may not see an issue, however the law does. And thats the point. Yes some peoples motivation for ringing may be honest, however the law was put in place to help reduce car crime.

The law also has in place mechanisms to deal with reshells.

it just happens people dont like having a q plate as it devalues thier car, so theyd rather break the law instead.


Most cossie conversions should be reregistered and be on a q plate. only the ones built using a new shell can get away with a age related/new id by going the kit car route.


People may think its trivial to swap an id and not do it legitimately but if somehow it gets found out, you can loose the car, or more worringly, if you lie about it, some innocent punter can loose his newly purchased car and find out its worth a lot less than he thought.....

If youre doing it for "honest" reasons because you dont want a patched up shell, then why are people afraid of doing it legitimately by the book???

oh yeah because in a rare car scene, originality is everything and a q plate reshell is worth fuck all compared to an original car....

fsteward

100% right mate a real bit of honesty there about mk 3/4 escorts with diff floor pans in
if you was to go over half the mk1 mk2 escorts at a show you prob wouldent even find any numbers as you would get told (its had a repair panel mate ) id be up for buying that id !

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

im not saying some might not be an honest transfer but its hardly the same as speeding now is it lol, im not having a dig just stating some facts and my opinion mate, and the mk4 escort thing with seirra floorpans is hardly the same thing is it as you can't convince someone a mk4 escort is in fact a seirra but in reality they should be on a q plate

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

but it still had an id off another car on it which is ringing, if all the parts were new then it could have been registered with the dvla as a ford escort 2.0 turbo, this I know as a fact due to knowing someone doing exactly this and getting a w registration.
And as for my cab inform the dvla of what? The fact my escort now has a 1.6 injection engine instead of what? My logbook states the correct engine no and my ins company knows of the mods so I have done everything required of me

paul-h

And it still looks shit!! just kidding mate, I'm going to agree with the majority. I know it's not right but I'd rather have a re-shell than a welded up rot box. How do you know that your car hasn't been a re-shell?

vaughant

iTrader: (1)

Ahh the great ringer debate.

Agree with the above point that if it were paul NYRS (sorry to keep using your name mate!!) or Stu Sanderson "re shelling" theor car no - one would have an issue.

Just get over it guys, people have been re shelling cars since they were built!!!

J690Turbo

I love this debate!

RetroTed

A car has come up for sale bearing this plate, am S1 with windy windows and no floor numbers. I was going to view it tonight but I'm thinking I might steer clear after reading this thread and googling the reg plate

Fullflush

Do you have a link?

RetroTed

Not to the car, its up as a restored car with 12 months mot

Fullflush

Good detective work from you!

RetroTed

Lucky I'd say, I was off to buy it tonight

fuzzy

Wasn't there rules set out about needing to use a certain percentage of parts within that car such as engine , transmission etc to use the id? Although how that's meant to be proven ive no idea.
if you have the id that is the original vin. I expect it should also have an engine with the correct number matched to that vehicle but with older cars many will have had replacement engines probably undeclared anyway so hard to prove either way.if your reshelling your own car that's rotten you already have its id anyway and would most likely use that. the only reason I can think of to use a bought id like this is to claim unoriginal parts on a lower spec basic car thrown together is this vehicle for resale value purposes?

rsmadgt3071

i seen this too.. needed too much work for my liking.. and yeah its a re shell.

RetroTed

It's still up for sale locally to me. Chap won't give images of the engine bay and the reg plate is covered

burnzy

I hate the adverts with covered plates and the ones that do it badly and you find out it's got a hidden past or most likely been clocked.

xr2mk2turbo

I've seen this car about very recently, think I've some pics, I'll have a look.

dingla rs

iTrader: (2)

Happens all time with mk2 escorts , I have a few ids
Meself

noelforbes

Item number 182635594601

St3V3_C

Gone.


Good.