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Old 13-08-2012, 09:08 PM
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Default What Turbo for Low lag and approx 350hp MAX?

been looking at Turbos for the cosworth engine and just wondered what opinions people had for the most responsive, LOW lag turbo for the engine?

max power isnt really my goal, anything from 300-350(max) would be good. more responsiveness tbh.

I wouldnt mind something like a modern version of the T3, that makes over 300hp? maybe a GT28?

Also, where to buy a complete turbo from?

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Old 13-08-2012, 09:17 PM
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Old 13-08-2012, 09:20 PM
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T34 with a .48 ex housing ? That will do the numbers and be low lag
Old 13-08-2012, 10:00 PM
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yeah had one but sold it, lol. Smallest GT28 any good?
Old 13-08-2012, 10:02 PM
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GT28rs would be good
Old 13-08-2012, 10:13 PM
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Gt25 2nd hand off a focus rs.
Old 13-08-2012, 10:16 PM
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T25 from Rouse will do 300bhp and minimal lag
T28 from datsun 200SX or similar will do more for equal lag

but it all depends what your defenition of "lag" is

i personally would fit a GT30 and NOS, job done.
Old 14-08-2012, 06:11 AM
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gt28rs, there is one for sale from a member on here for a grand brand spanking.
alternatively try a gt30 on a 0.64 t25 style housing, that'll do the job too.
Old 14-08-2012, 07:48 AM
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I've got a GT2876R. spools really easy and early. A sniff of accelerator and you get boost.
Old 14-08-2012, 07:54 AM
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gtx2867.

Good spool and improved topend.

Thats what im saving to buy anyway!
Old 14-08-2012, 08:44 AM
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mine is on a GT3076r with a 0.63 exhaust housing - spools up fine - no more lag than what my t34 used to give
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CR turbo's stage 3 T3...
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Are we talking lag or boost threshold?
Old 14-08-2012, 09:31 AM
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GT28RS is a quick spooling turbo that will do that power.
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ok thanks guys. What i mean by lag is, as its for a drift car that will have the throttle feathered, i dont want that 'waiting' feeling between each flick of the throttle. In an ideal world a 300hp N/A would be mint, but they are a million pounds.

and i'd like something that spools up nicely from 3k upwards.

Im only going to be running a small 2wd or 4x4 cooler too, and 4x4 manifold for clearance, so no massive boost levels will be needed really.

How much are the new GTX28's? I like the sound of the smaller ex. housing version.
Old 14-08-2012, 10:55 AM
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Supercharger?Eaton from a merc or similar?
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Getting a GT28 onto a 4x4 manifold isn't a direct swap, you'll need a custom oil return pipe fabricating to run between the manifold and the head.

Also, don't get too drawn into the "i've got to have the smallest exhaust housing possible" scenario. For a drift car you'll want it to flow well at higher engine speeds and the smaller housings restrict that. In all honesty, the difference between say a 0.63 and 0.82 housing on the GT series is at worst a couple of hundred rpm but the top end is so much better.

I wouldn't dismiss a 4WD T3 with a 360 thrust bearing, admittedly it won't do 350bhp but it'll give you the response you want!
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Originally Posted by boXXer
ok thanks guys. What i mean by lag is, as its for a drift car that will have the throttle feathered, i dont want that 'waiting' feeling between each flick of the throttle. In an ideal world a 300hp N/A would be mint, but they are a million pounds.

and i'd like something that spools up nicely from 3k upwards.

Im only going to be running a small 2wd or 4x4 cooler too, and 4x4 manifold for clearance, so no massive boost levels will be needed really.

How much are the new GTX28's? I like the sound of the smaller ex. housing version.
Is this for the Mk2?!
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Yeah si, atmo could do with refreshing and I got a 4x4 engine laying about so why not?
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Fair play - agree it makes sense.

Going to try and risk it using the Quaife 'box and English axle still? Or up upgradings?
Old 14-08-2012, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Fair play - agree it makes sense.

Going to try and risk it using the Quaife 'box and English axle still? Or up upgradings?
I should be ok with sequential and engrish as I run gay sized 175's
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Originally Posted by nevsrevs
Gt25 2nd hand off a focus rs.
Originally Posted by RS_matt
CR turbo's stage 3 T3...
Either of those would do just over 300bhp and respond like crazy but will be restrictive at high RPM, if you want it for drifting might make things get a bit hot.
Old 14-08-2012, 03:38 PM
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What about an aggressive ALS setup?
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yeah heat is another thing i gotta think about. I suppose with a 'T' Turbo i wont have to run water cooling, but with the GT's you have to.
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Why wouldn't you want to run a water cooled core?
Old 14-08-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
yeah heat is another thing i gotta think about. I suppose with a 'T' Turbo i wont have to run water cooling, but with the GT's you have to.
Yeah when your constantly up the top end of the RPM scale things get pretty hot! lol
A restrictive (but very responsive) turbine housing might not be the best idea?!
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Why wouldn't you want to run a water cooled core?
To keep the coolant temps lower, when drifting the car isnt at the best angle to get air flow to the rad and your always bouncing off the limiter.
Old 14-08-2012, 04:01 PM
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Couldn't have put it better myself
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As a ratio to how much the engine heats up the water and how much the turbo add to that, it's fuck all.
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I hated the lag on my T34 .63 and wish I'd gone T3 or equivalent, I could then run a higher gear and lower revs and actually be able to pull out of turns. As it is I tend to stay between 5000- and limiter 7200rpm where it gives best power. Good thread. I do t really need 380 BHP but if I could reduce that lag and keeps the revs that would be great. A linear n/a would be so useable but agreed- costly
Old 14-08-2012, 04:33 PM
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By the way I would say work stabilising your CHT's, it's very important to how the engine is performing
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
As a ratio to how much the engine heats up the water and how much the turbo add to that, it's fuck all.
I see what your saying as it's much smaller than the head or block, but it can be glowing hot depending how hard you run, does it really make that little difference?
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Originally Posted by Mr C
I hated the lag on my T34 .63 and wish I'd gone T3 or equivalent, I could then run a higher gear and lower revs and actually be able to pull out of turns. As it is I tend to stay between 5000- and limiter 7200rpm where it gives best power. Good thread. I do t really need 380 BHP but if I could reduce that lag and keeps the revs that would be great. A linear n/a would be so useable but agreed- costly
yeah agreed. the .63 on my 3dr is shit tbh, and i dont enjoy driving it anymore.
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Originally Posted by Chip
GT28RS is a quick spooling turbo that will do that power.
https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...ml#post6008178
Old 14-08-2012, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
I see what your saying as it's much smaller than the head or block, but it can be glowing hot depending how hard you run, does it really make that little difference?
Well think about it a little, think about the efficiency of the heat into the turbo core!
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I just put a 28 for sale in the RST room
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
I just put a 28 for sale in the RST room
which would be pretty much spot on given it's an owen developments one
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the good old t34.48 surely easier to fit.cheap to buy and repair strong and realiable and will heat the power u want or pretty close around 330-340 without screamong the bollocks out the turbo lol
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I've a .48 exhaust housing I'd sell, will bolt striaght onto your existing t34 :P


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