how sensitive are 2wd sapphires?
13-02-2005, 03:33 PM
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if i was to put my foot down on a staright long road, dry day aswel, will it attempt to skip out and wheel spinning too? 
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Originally Posted by JimRS
if i was to put my foot down on a staright long road, dry day aswel, will it attempt to skip out and wheel spinning too?
Road conditions, tyres, power output and if the LSD in the diff is working ok.
13-02-2005, 03:36 PM
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How sensitive are rwd sapphire cosworths? wot can make em jump out?
seriously, depends on boost, tyres, bushes, diff, cam timing etc...as already all mentioned
why???????
13-02-2005, 03:37 PM
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lifting off the clutch too fast does it for me usually, also i avoidn full throttle unless in 3rd and its dry and even then on shit roads its abit skippy, in second onna shoit road when damp its not a good thing
mpst common now though is worn bushes though and shite tyres
mpst common now though is worn bushes though and shite tyres
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13-02-2005, 03:45 PM
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why ?????
4x4 will still 4 wheel drift i the wet but ya can go as much power
im a shit driver in all honesty but ive managed to not bin mine yet
its all about thinking before ya boot it, remember 4wd give ya a fale sence of securty and thats when ya do bin em ya crash harder
4x4 will still 4 wheel drift i the wet but ya can go as much power
im a shit driver in all honesty but ive managed to not bin mine yet
its all about thinking before ya boot it, remember 4wd give ya a fale sence of securty and thats when ya do bin em ya crash harder
13-02-2005, 04:04 PM
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any saff/sierra cossie 2wd with the same power as a saff cossie 4b4 will be quicker because of transmission losses
edited: meant top speed only......oops
edited: meant top speed only......oops
13-02-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pugo
any saff/sierra cossie 2wd with the same power as a saff cossie 4b4 will be quicker because of transmission losses
13-02-2005, 04:25 PM
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if i was to put my foot down on a staright long road, dry day aswel, will it attempt to skip out and wheel spinning too?
13-02-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
how many times do you guys race on the wet
as fopr 4wd yes they do handle better BUT they aint as fun nor are they as cheep to make fast
as fopr 4wd yes they do handle better BUT they aint as fun nor are they as cheep to make fast
And in a 4wd car you can go quick in the wet thats the point (which is 50% of the time here in the uk).Saying a equivalent powered 2wd is faster than a 4wd in a untrue statement imo.
Anyway I'm not getting into a 4wd/Rwd arguement cos I don't have either
13-02-2005, 04:47 PM
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dude why are touring cars/f1 cars rear wheel drive........is that because they are slower top speed than a 4 wheel drive or can corner slower??????????????
standing start a 4b4 will piss a 2wd....but once there rolling on tarmac....2wd all the way
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standing start a 4b4 will piss a 2wd....but once there rolling on tarmac....2wd all the way
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13-02-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pugo
dude why are touring cars/f1 cars rear wheel drive........is that because they are slower top speed than a 4 wheel drive or can corner slower??????????????
standing start a 4b4 will piss a 2wd....but once there rolling on tarmac....2wd all the way
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standing start a 4b4 will piss a 2wd....but once there rolling on tarmac....2wd all the way
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Comparing a race car to a road car is pointless. A rally car would beat a touring car (of a similar spec) round a wet track.Sapphire Cosworths are driven on bumpy, broken/multi surfaced, multi-grease/oil/dirt covered roads which are also wet half the time.
Yes the 2wd is quicker above 2nd gear in the dry...but the 4wd is quicker below 4th gear in the wet.
Either way
"any saff/sierra cossie 2wd with the same power as a saff cossie 4b4 will be quicker because of transmission losses"
ISN'T CORRECT
I rest my case
13-02-2005, 05:05 PM
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it is purely down to driving style. i have had mine snaking all over the road in 2nd gear in the dry. But i have also managed to have 90% traction from a standing start in the dry. If you want it out its easy, if you want it in a straight line its difficult whilst driving hard imo. I find that tight bends in the wet driving extra slow is the scariest as you think your safe cause your driving slow, but can catch you out without warning. O and you need to concentrate 100% and dont think you have got it sussed and get cocky cause you will end up in a ditch
13-02-2005, 08:31 PM
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"any saff/sierra cossie 2wd with the same power as a saff cossie 4b4 will be quicker because of transmission losses"
ISN'T CORRECT
ISN'T CORRECT
IS CORRECT
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PS why do you think the rs200 had a 2wd feature...was it not for the rally boys when they got on tarmac then??????????
13-02-2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pugo
any saff/sierra cossie 2wd with the same power as a saff cossie 4b4 will be quicker because of transmission losses
edited: meant top speed only......oops
edited: meant top speed only......oops
I was quoting pre-edit "PS why do you think the rs200 had a 2wd feature...was it not for the rally boys when they got on tarmac then??????????"
Correct, and the point is?
Sorry I must be in an argumentative mood 
14-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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RWD aint as bad as people think... lol
drive the car normally and you wont even realise its RWD.
dump the clutch in 2nd on full boost round a 90degree bend in the snow and thats a different matter
imho if youre looking at <300bhp then as far as straight line dry stuff goes you really wont go THAT much quicker in a 4x4... 2wds do still grip very very well
mine's only about 200bhp... but if driven/launched sensibly i can still get a blinding start. and my old XR4i (150bhp) never had any traction issues whatsoever!
drive the car normally and you wont even realise its RWD.
dump the clutch in 2nd on full boost round a 90degree bend in the snow and thats a different matter
imho if youre looking at <300bhp then as far as straight line dry stuff goes you really wont go THAT much quicker in a 4x4... 2wds do still grip very very well
mine's only about 200bhp... but if driven/launched sensibly i can still get a blinding start. and my old XR4i (150bhp) never had any traction issues whatsoever!
14-02-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
RWD is safe , 4x4 is safe, fwd is safe, only being a twat makes any of them dangerous.... but imho RWD is more fun 
very much like "anyone can go fast in a straight line !" quote
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dude why are touring cars/f1 cars rear wheel drive........is that because they are slower top speed than a 4 wheel drive or can corner slower??????????????
RWD is safe , 4x4 is safe, fwd is safe, only being a twat makes any of them dangerous....
14-02-2005, 04:16 PM
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welli think my car is about 280 to 300 bhp and in wet its wheel spin in 4 and last night 5th in dry will grip like a coont in 2nd so dont nail it in the wet lol
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