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Old 11-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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Renault 21 turbo - quicker than a cossie mid range.

Also a rover 827 and the volvo T5r.
Old 11-07-2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gjh
pugeout 405 T16? Wasn't available in the uk I don't think, only in france



Weren't these 200bhp cars?
Yeah mate 200bhp 1061 were made

I'd say these 2 are deffo top sleepers:

Peugeot 405 mi16 (Top speed 132 mph)



MG ZT260 (top speed 155 mph)



Be honest, these do not look like they can do these speeds, do they? If you saw one come up behind you, you wouldn't give either a second glance.
Old 11-07-2011, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DarylC

MG ZT260 (top speed 155 mph)



Be honest, these do not look like they can do these speeds, do they? If you saw one come up behind you, you wouldn't give either a second glance.

You can get a Rover 75 with the same engine for extra sleeper points
Old 12-07-2011, 04:36 AM
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Yeh i must admint them rover 75's with the V8s are a bit of a sleeper. At one of the garages i used to work at we had one of the mg's come in and it had x power exhausts on and it sounded mint.
Old 12-07-2011, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshy
GMC syclone/typhoon



"Both the Syclone and Typhoon (SyTy) trucks featured a Mitsubishi TD06-17C 8 cm˛ turbocharger[1] and Garrett water/air intercooler attached to a 4.3 L LB4 V6 engine with unique pistons, main caps, head gaskets, intake manifolds, fuel system, exhaust manifolds, and a 48mm twin bore throttle body from the 5.7 L GM Small-Block engine. All SyTy's had a 700R4 (4L60) 4-speed automatic transmission. A Borg Warner all wheel drive transfer case split torque with 35% forward and 65% to the rear wheels.[1] Both trucks featured sport modifications to the standard suspensions. The Syclone was the first production truck to receive a 4 wheel anti-lock braking system. Output was 280 hp (209 kW) and 350 lbˇft (475 Nˇm).[1] The Syclone, when new, was capable of accelerating from 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds and could do a quarter-mile run in 13.4 seconds at 98 mph (158 km/h). Car & Driver tested the Syclone and it ran 0-30 in 1.3 seconds with a 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, the 1/4 mile was 13.06."

not bad for a yank
Pentti Airikkala had one of those - remember seeing him on a rally in it ( he was spectating )
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Rover 420 gsi Turbo
Fiat Marea 20v turbo 180bhp (as below)

Old 10-08-2011, 11:59 AM
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:07 PM
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Daihatsu YRV Turbo?

130bhp as standard from a 1.3 engine.
Old 10-08-2011, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis_Wiseman
Fiat Marea 20v turbo 180bhp (as below)

I didn't know they put that engine in these! They're 220bhp in the coupe IIRC too

For speed vs sleeper look they score very well!!!

Tom
Old 10-08-2011, 12:13 PM
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:34 PM
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:40 PM
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the ORIGINAL m5

certainly not the e39 onwards, those are not sleepers imho,
Old 10-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
the ORIGINAL m5

certainly not the e39 onwards, those are not sleepers imho,
The E39 M5 looks more like a "normal" E39 than an E28 M5 looks like a "normal" E28.

The only giveaway is the exhausts, which most average onlookers wouldn't take too much notice of anyway.
Old 10-08-2011, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gjh
Rover 214 gsi turbo
No such car.
Old 10-08-2011, 01:52 PM
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Civic Vti

1.8 that revs to over 8K with 169bhp, LSD, old grandad rover 400 styling
Old 10-08-2011, 02:14 PM
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renault 21 turbo
rover 220 turbo
rover 75 v8
cavalier turbo
calibra turbo
Old 10-08-2011, 02:19 PM
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a lot of you forgeting what sleeper means
Old 10-08-2011, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by the mk1 kid
I didn't know they put that engine in these! They're 220bhp in the coupe IIRC too

For speed vs sleeper look they score very well!!!

Tom

Sorry, think its 16v turbo not 20v hence only 180 bhp not 220 lol
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Originally Posted by gouch1
a lot of you forgeting what sleeper means

Thought the same thing mate haha
Old 10-08-2011, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis_Wiseman
Sorry, think its 16v turbo not 20v hence only 180 bhp not 220 lol
No, they were actually 20v turbos!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Marea
Old 10-08-2011, 04:22 PM
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vw passat w8 proper sleeper with 300bhp
Old 10-08-2011, 04:28 PM
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Daihatsu Charade GTti or a tuned Saff Cos with 1.6 emblem
Old 10-08-2011, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis_Wiseman
Rover 420 gsi Turbo
Fiat Marea 20v turbo 180bhp (as below)

i think we have a winner

i cant think of a more unassuming car to have a relatively decent amount of power
Old 10-08-2011, 07:18 PM
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^^^^ agreed, that would eat up rod and spit him out
Old 10-08-2011, 10:50 PM
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Late Audi A8 4.2 quattro turbo diesel.
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
i think we have a winner

i cant think of a more unassuming car to have a relatively decent amount of power
Id go with that too, real sleeper!
Old 11-08-2011, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dennis_Wiseman
Rover 420 gsi Turbo
Fiat Marea 20v turbo 180bhp (as below)

They did a 2.4 160bhp non turbo petrol version as well but i don't think we got it over here it was only in brazil, the 2.4's are good for tuning though i believe.



They did estate versions called the marea weekend as well with the 2.0 20v in 180hp, . You could also get a 2.4 Diesel one.



Bordin motorsport have or did have a 650+ horsie one.

Ginge

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Old 11-08-2011, 08:44 AM
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i thought the E28 M5 didnt have any cosmetic changes?

as the the e39, yes they look similar to the sports but then compared to a "normal" 5 series ie an SE they do look the part
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I think to say any BMW M car is a sleeper is just ridiculous to be honest
Old 11-08-2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
i thought the E28 M5 didnt have any cosmetic changes?

as the the e39, yes they look similar to the sports but then compared to a "normal" 5 series ie an SE they do look the part








To me, the E39 is no less a sleeper than the E28

I don't think either of them are sleepers tbh, but that's a different matter...
Old 11-08-2011, 10:11 AM
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I have come to the conclusion, I want a sleeper. 2.0 zetec in my fiesta?
Old 11-08-2011, 10:30 AM
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Has to be that Fiat
Old 11-08-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nevsrevs
Rod, I have seen off many cars in a rover 220gti turbo, only running 1 bar, bikes evo,s ect, it would of had no trouble giving a standard 2wd a run for it's money, take your parkers book figures out your ass and get in the real world. Just look at the boys in the goon, not much out at Combe on it's ass?
if its running 1 bar its NOT standard!run the same boost in the saff and see what happens,but this is about out of the box,which means standard!so my recommendation is the toyota aristo,unassuming luxury barge with a 3 litre twin turbo supra engine in it!
Old 11-08-2011, 06:31 PM
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yea i did think that after, but just wanted to wind up rod,
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Toyota Starlet / Glanza GT Turbo
1.3 Turbo 135ps & 890kg
Old 11-08-2011, 06:43 PM
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Daihatsu Charade GTti
993cc 3cyl
99bhp, 93 ft.lb, 808kg
Old 11-08-2011, 07:01 PM
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Mate of mine used to have a mk1 charade like this, it was black and had a hand painted red stripe down the side. Was a proper grot-mobile but used to go like hot shit off the lights, but fook all happened after about 60mph Had a 'wind up' turbo knob inside the car that increased the boost pressuure the more you turned it

I remember back in the day beating a brand new mk3 golf gti off the lights in it, them were the days
Old 11-08-2011, 09:17 PM
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Friend of a friend has a little mitsubushi people carrier jobbie.....

Looks totally standard and un-assuming but it's got an evo 3 engine and running gear.

Can't for the life of me think of what it's called....it's about the size of the little space star mini MPV

Before anyone jumps on me saying ''out the box sleeper'' , this is how it came out the factory ! Rare as rocking horse shit aswell !
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Mitsubishi Galant
Old 12-08-2011, 06:26 PM
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Galant VR-4 is a total sleeper, 2.5 v6 twin turbo with Evo running gear. Looks like the kind of car my grandad would appreciate (looks wise).

What about the Proton GTi thing? Was that not a non-turbo mitsubishi engine of some sort?

I recently bought an Alfa Mito 1.4 Turbo and that is surprisingly quick! Same engine as the Punto/500 Abarth. Mine even has factory fitted Brembo 4 pots.

The cloverleaf is 167bhp and 184lb/ft torque which I think is incredible from a 1.4T, can be pumped up to 186bhp with a remap too.


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