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Old 27-03-2011, 04:41 PM
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thinking of buying it the guy says his just taken it as part x

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Old 27-03-2011, 04:57 PM
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looks like a sierra saph cosworth to me
Old 27-03-2011, 05:16 PM
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looks clean in the pic the wheels and head lights arnt to my taste but thats me lol is it tunned
Old 27-03-2011, 05:59 PM
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he says its 360bhp boot doesnt open and has a little rust on drivers rear arch and drivers rear door
Old 27-03-2011, 06:25 PM
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i like that, whats the askin price
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5k................
Old 27-03-2011, 06:32 PM
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as it sounds like its from a dealer im sure u will be able to haggle a nice bit off, could be a good car for the money
Old 27-03-2011, 06:42 PM
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not sure its a dealer think he just part xd a car he was selling for this and cash

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Old 27-03-2011, 06:44 PM
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dont know it but it looks nice mate get it bought!!!
Old 27-03-2011, 06:47 PM
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Looks very similar to a car that used to knock around swindon, but dont know any more than that i'm afraid
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also this is going to be my 1st cossie ive always wanted 1 i have between Ł5000-Ł5500 to spend what things do i need to look out for i was gonna buy a series 2 but doubt ill ever have this sort of lump some of cash again as i am one of those people that cannot save so thought what the heck im 25 insurance through admiral is Ł960 havent got any more qoutes yet 5 yncb and really wanna get one like on the escorts you have rust issues sunroof rust probs ect what should i be looking for and whats the 1 to go for 2 or 4wd
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everyone will say 2wd and that 4x4 are for girls ect ect but ive had both and honestly doesnt bother me they are both incredibly quick, as for what to look for mate rust sills,chassis legs, arches floors everywhere really any funny noises comming from engine smoke ect ect it does look like a nice example
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when you say chassis legs what happens to them then and in the pic passenger side rear does it look like bumper is sitting low as there looks to be quite a big gap or is this normal
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they rust on the two ive had both have had to have patched dont on the rear as theyve just rusted and yes also my rear bumpers on both of mine have also dropped like this 1 its very common i think but it is fixable
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they all have a gap mate some less and some more... it could be adjusted though.. just make sure it aint rotted out underneath
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Hi mate i know this car.it was in tipton/birmingham way.theres 2 brothers 1 had a white 1 and the other had a this 1.they were both rebuilt i mean restored.this 1 was sold and never seen again.but the white 1 was sold 3 times then a mate bought it it was runin about 420 bhp then he blew it up and sold it but they were both rebuilt low comped.
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so rust and noises rattles anything else is there anything i can do to check test things or is it just been thorough and checking all areas for rot trouble i have im in essex and this car is in manchester so dont want to go all that way for a shitter ive travelled up and down the country for so many different cars and ive made a fair few mistakes too but as a car ive always dreamed of owning want the 1st one to be the right 1
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Originally Posted by MOHAMMED
Hi mate i know this car.it was in tipton/birmingham way.theres 2 brothers 1 had a white 1 and the other had a this 1.they were both rebuilt i mean restored.this 1 was sold and never seen again.but the white 1 was sold 3 times then a mate bought it it was runin about 420 bhp then he blew it up and sold it but they were both rebuilt low comped.
the guy reckons the person he part xd it with owned it from 2003
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yes mate check all over for rust have a good poke around everywhere, if/when you view try and get it started from cold to see what its like also if you can have a test drive so you can check what the gearbox ect is like if it goes ok sounds ok and you dont find any nasty rust it could be a good 1. im not expert tho
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Originally Posted by burnhamshaun
the guy reckons the person he part xd it with owned it from 2003
Hi mate this car had lots of uprated parts im talking about 7/8years ago i never owned a cossie then but was on a look out for 1.BUT i had a mate from the same area and he heard rummers that they yousto pinch parts for cossies and rebuilt these two cars.but on the upside they did have good bits well iv been in the white one that yousto pin you up in the seat/mines 380 bhp and that was a lot faster until he blew it up cossie style loloh yeah they were fully painted aswell.at the time were mapped by PJ motorsport and lookin @ pics u aint gona go wrong there mate get it bought.check the foot wells for rust and chasis num by the drivers seat .

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Old 28-03-2011, 07:43 AM
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Anyone fancy coming with me I'll buy you lunch lol
Old 28-03-2011, 09:41 AM
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Oi! Didn't tell me you were looking at this. Sort me out some petrol money and I'll take the turbo for a run up there
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Could be a good road trip hope it's not 1 of many tho
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Also what are the pros/cons 2wd/4wd and any differences Im led
To believe 4wd have bonnet vents if true any reason for that
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there was a great sapphire buying guide in one of the ford mags a few months ago, maybe someone can scan it in
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check gear change 2nd to 3rd they usually crunch due to worn syncro listen for whinning from gear box and diff. they rust around the front suspension turrets as well.

check oil in water etc with claimed 360bhp check injector colour if its on green then it's proberly not 360.

rust round sun roof like mk4 escort. rear arches rust rear chassis legs rust they suffer from rust on the transmission tunnel too but you won't see that unless you take the interior out!

looks nice in the pics mate not too badley priced either at the mo the saff seems to be creeping up in value at the moment.

if think of any thing else i'll post.

good luck,

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Now that is a good check list anyone else able to add also what colour injectors should I look for
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Originally Posted by burnhamshaun
Now that is a good check list anyone else able to add also what colour injectors should I look for

yellow - standard 2wd
blue - standard 4wd saff and bigturbo escos
green - 350 on the limit
greys - over 350 not too sure on there max but over 400.
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Originally Posted by Phil2002
yellow - standard 2wd
blue - standard 4wd saff and bigturbo escos
green - 350 on the limit
greys - over 350 not too sure on there max but over 400.
Light green - 300BHP max
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Lcheers guys any more info to be added also if someone claims 350bhp or more what sort of things should I be looking for upgrade wise bills etc
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Originally Posted by burnhamshaun
Lcheers guys any more info to be added also if someone claims 350bhp or more what sort of things should I be looking for upgrade wise bills etc
350bhp on dark greens would probably be an estimated bhp!!!!!!!!

You would need an aftermarket chip (many differant manufacturers) or a live map
-31 or -34 actuator
RS500 style intercooler
3 bar map sensor
maybe a t34 turbo
dark green injectors (Bosch 803) - many people use siemens injectors these days, not 100% sure of the spec

Don`t think I`ve missed anything

Best thing to do is check this link put up by Motorsport Developments themselves
http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/rsocbb...d.php?t=239794
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Originally Posted by nobbycossie
Light green - 300BHP max

you learn some thing new every day never knew they did light greens
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Originally Posted by Phil2002
you learn some thing new every day never knew they did light greens
Yes, I has light greens in my old saph cossie.
Don`t see them much these days, it was used in the early days of cosworths. Sometimes referred to as Stage 2.
Mine was a Graham Goode Stage 2 chip with light greens. Standard Actuator and Map Sensor. Its just a posh Stage 1 really!!!!
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Not a member of that forum so I can't see it will have to look at joining when I get in
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Have you had a good look of it underneath? And behind the bodykit for rot, I think getting one with a solid shell is more important than mechanical faults, looks like a nice car mind.
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have you bought it yet?

looks nice in the pics.

4x4 's are massively better to drive than the 2wd ones, just a huge leap forward especially if tuned they are just so much more capable than the 2wd. I even preferred my 4x4 to my escort and 3rd cosworths, ok it was worth peanuts compared to them but it was the only one I kept long term.

Rust and worn engine (piston slap/crank shaft/big ends) are the biggest things to be checking for when buying. Also look for as much history as you can get - if any history missing then something is up - look into it. That gear-nob says to me it was owned by a nob so you do need to check carefully all round - its a 20 yr old cosworth that could potentially go bang at any moment and leave you with a large bil -l so take someone with you who knows these cars.
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Originally Posted by rallycross
have you bought it yet?

looks nice in the pics.

4x4 's are massively better to drive than the 2wd ones, just a huge leap forward especially if tuned they are just so much more capable than the 2wd. I even preferred my 4x4 to my escort and 3rd cosworths, ok it was worth peanuts compared to them but it was the only one I kept long term.

Rust and worn engine (piston slap/crank shaft/big ends) are the biggest things to be checking for when buying. Also look for as much history as you can get - if any history missing then something is up - look into it. That gear-nob says to me it was owned by a nob so you do need to check carefully all round - its a 20 yr old cosworth that could potentially go bang at any moment and leave you with a large bil -l so take someone with you who knows these cars.
Oh and BHP figures are just a load of pub talk unless it comes with a rolling road dyno print out to prove it. My last couple had green 803's, 3 bar map, stainless exhaust, induction kit, 3-1 actuator etc but none were more than 330 (r/r).
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Cheers for input guys really helps no not yet looking to buy one this weekend if the car and price is right


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