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Old 18-10-2008, 08:21 AM
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Default Essex boys discuss(update pg5)

I know there are a few locals on this board.
i watched the film last night as im going on holiday next friday & bought the book for reading at the pool so i dont get boared when the missus is lying there getting a sun tan.( gran canaria) always warm..

After the film i went on youtube & watched the reconstruction from crimewatch & the news at the time.
It was nothing like the film i take it the film is someones veiw or how much truith is in the film? like when you see the real crime forensic pics there is 2 shot in the front & one in the back with the drivers seat headrest blown off.but the film shows billy whizz was driving? but the forensic pics (which are horrible) google them & see someone ws defo shot in the drivers seat.
Whats your veiws on this film & the real life shootings?
Old 18-10-2008, 08:27 AM
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if billy whizz had been shot then the film would have been 40 mins shorter.........
Old 18-10-2008, 08:28 AM
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That film was nothing to do with the Rettendon murders, Rise Of The Footsoldier was supposed to be a better account of what happened.
Old 18-10-2008, 08:34 AM
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I have bought rise of the foot soldier i will watch it tonight
Old 18-10-2008, 08:41 AM
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its funny the only truth in essex boys was the badly made tabz and the only truth that was in footsoldier was they missed the drugs out oh and carlton was a naughty lad he could have a ruck
Old 18-10-2008, 08:44 AM
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Both are good films though
Old 18-10-2008, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Both are good films though

exactly its entertainment if the truth was put out there would be few still in prison now lol
Old 18-10-2008, 08:53 AM
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there are many books on this.the rise of the foot solider is the closest film to the "supposed" truth.and as always no-one really knows the truth except the killers.

one of my freinds is mates with carlton leach and is around the icf alot but i never ask questions as its just not what i consider the done thing.epsecially this far down the line.

how true they are i dont honestly know but i have the bernard o'mahoney(he was one of the firm that was involved,tony tucker's mate) books and they are a good easy read.some of the rise of the foot solider is in these books.

it was actually my uncles' friends land they were found on too.

nasty old business to be in and they were all over essex and frequently all over the country,but werent shy of letting it be known who they were or what they did.which possibly went against them in the end.


edit,here's bernie's site too
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/main.shtml
Old 18-10-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay.
exactly its entertainment if the truth was put out there would be few still in prison now lol

its a common thought that both steele and wholmes are actually innocent of this,although they have done various other things in the past.
Old 18-10-2008, 08:59 AM
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I hadnt paid much attension untill my mate showed me the rear crime pics fooking horrific, the book will pass time on holiday
Old 18-10-2008, 09:04 AM
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what book is it carlo?
Old 18-10-2008, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by carlo
I have bought rise of the foot soldier i will watch it tonight
I watched Rise of the Footsoldier a couple of weeks ago, it's a far better film IMO.

Watched Essex Boys and thought it was pretty poor really
Old 18-10-2008, 09:38 AM
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The book is called essex boys i will have to check it if its based on the film im not reading it.
Old 18-10-2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullett
there are many books on this.the rise of the foot solider is the closest film to the "supposed" truth.and as always no-one really knows the truth except the killers.

one of my freinds is mates with carlton leach and is around the icf alot but i never ask questions as its just not what i consider the done thing.epsecially this far down the line.

how true they are i dont honestly know but i have the bernard o'mahoney(he was one of the firm that was involved,tony tucker's mate) books and they are a good easy read.some of the rise of the foot solider is in these books.

it was actually my uncles' friends land they were found on too.

nasty old business to be in and they were all over essex and frequently all over the country,but werent shy of letting it be known who they were or what they did.which possibly went against them in the end.


edit,here's bernie's site too
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/main.shtml
he is a really good writer now.if anyone wants the real truth on the essex underworld,bouncers taking backhanders from dealers etc check out his book 'wannabe in my gang' its a truely great read and a real eye opener
Old 18-10-2008, 09:43 AM
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what did you type in to see the forensics stuff? wouldnt mind having a look on google but dunno what to put in lol

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Old 18-10-2008, 09:45 AM
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http://www.realestniggas.com/board/s...d.php?t=666002

WARNING ,view at your peril,first site i picked up from a google search.sick sick pics
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My work has blocked the pics but the link above is the one i seen them on
Old 18-10-2008, 09:48 AM
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pretty sickening pics really
Old 18-10-2008, 09:50 AM
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its one of them things you have to keep looking even though it makes you feel sick lol.

The amount of teeth inside the remains of that lads mouth dont look very pleasant mind lol
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The jeep ws on ebay a few months ago for sale , the ad stated that it had a full valet & a new headrest
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thats just wrong, why on earth would they sell something like that

I feel sick now ive looked at them a few times lol

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Old 18-10-2008, 09:55 AM
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the pics are horrible but you cant help but look
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yeah i agree, but now my stomach is gargling

Was anyone ever caught for their murders?
Old 18-10-2008, 09:59 AM
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Yeah there are 2 ppl serving 3 life sentances each
Old 18-10-2008, 10:03 AM
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ahhh right cool, im checking that bernard mahoney site out now, some horrible pics
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YPBbXx...eature=related
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
ahhh right cool, im checking that bernard mahoney site out now, some horrible pics
Put a link up
Old 18-10-2008, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullett
its a common thought that both steele and wholmes are actually innocent of this,although they have done various other things in the past.

cant really say
Old 18-10-2008, 10:23 AM
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Carlo -

http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmur...2/page01.shtml

some of them are quite offensive and are also naked
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carlo,the book essex boys is NOT based on the film.the film was no where near even close to the events that "happened"
you will enjoy it.

his other books are
bonded by blood(cracking read)
and then wanne be in my gang(i have it but havent had a chance to read it yet.only had it 3 years)

he posts on his site quite often and seems an ok bloke tbh.
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Cool mate look forward to reading it
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do read the others,as form what ive read in bonded by blood it goes into it a fair bit more.
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
Carlo -

http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmur...2/page01.shtml

some of them are quite offensive and are also naked
theres some pics on there u never would have thought would have been shown
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Originally Posted by fordrs2005
theres some pics on there u never would have thought would have been shown
yeah i know

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Old 18-10-2008, 10:56 AM
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watched rise of the foot soldier a while back. this stuff is very interesting. sick pics thou!!
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Does anyone have a link to the CrimeWatch Report?

Cheers.
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If you do a hpi on the range rover it has had a fair few owners since the murders too, ive read a lot of info on Bernards site, he has a very open view on everything, theres police reports, audio recordings of the phonecalls made between the ifc, recordings of the phonecall made to the police reporting the murders etc, its very interesting, Essex boys is a good film i think, Rise of the footsoldier is better, but imo only because its a newer more modern film.
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they are very wrong pictures. suprised there that much of there faces left tbh as it was fairly closr range shot's
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Originally Posted by steveturbocal
they are very wrong pictures. suprised there that much of there faces left tbh as it was fairly close range shot's
was it? how do you know? nobody knows what really happended except the murderers
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fucking hell, some of those pics are nasty


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