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Old 26-01-2011, 07:52 PM
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Just found out a friend died under his car last night after his scissor jack collapsed.

Please please folks use axle stands before you get under a jacked up car.

R.I.P my friend

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Old 26-01-2011, 07:55 PM
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oh god thats terrible.
i always worry about that
rip fella
Old 26-01-2011, 07:55 PM
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Sorry to hear that R.I.P
Old 26-01-2011, 08:01 PM
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Gutted to hear or this...RIP.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:02 PM
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Very sad news
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Old 26-01-2011, 08:04 PM
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This is why i hate going under cars, even with axle stands. Ive had a few near misses and tbh it scared the bloody shite outta me.

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Old 26-01-2011, 08:06 PM
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I'm paranoid about that, and have just been under mine all weekend.

Axle stands, plus two ramps under the sills for belt and braces.

RIP
Old 26-01-2011, 08:07 PM
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Old 26-01-2011, 08:09 PM
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Very sad news, the same thing happened to my collegues neighbour.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:11 PM
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shit news, hate going under cars even with stands
r.i.p fella
Old 26-01-2011, 08:12 PM
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That's bloody horrible. I hate going under cars, nasty business. Makes me cringe when you see how some people have cars balanced on the brink and are messing about under them.

RIP.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:14 PM
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I always to worry about this and I have a 3 ton jack plus 3 ton axel stands I always use no matter how small a job I'm doing not worth the risk imo R.I.P
Old 26-01-2011, 08:42 PM
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Proper shit news m8

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Old 26-01-2011, 08:45 PM
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thats terrible mate sorry to hear that rip
Old 26-01-2011, 08:45 PM
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Sorry to hear that. R.I.P your friend.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:46 PM
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Sorry to hear that steve, best regards to his family.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:49 PM
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Sorry to hear Steve R.I.P.
Old 26-01-2011, 08:52 PM
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Best wishes to his family and friends.

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Old 26-01-2011, 08:52 PM
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Nasty,this is part of the reason i'm having a lift in the new garage


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Old 26-01-2011, 08:55 PM
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rip your mate steve
Old 26-01-2011, 09:25 PM
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rip...
Old 26-01-2011, 09:27 PM
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Timely reminder to take those extra couple of minutes to get the stands out and get them positioned for the sake of your life

RIP.
Old 26-01-2011, 09:30 PM
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Terrible!

Im very conscious when working on the deck under a car, always shove wheels, bricks etc as well as axle stands and give it a good push before going near it, i'd rather it fell off the stands with a test push than fell on me!

I heard of 2 boys my mate knows doing a G.box on a transit RWD, they were under it trying to put the box back in, must have shook it too much and it fell off the stands, both had broken ribbs, one of their hands got trapped under some part of the car, lay there for 20 mins til someone heard them, gathered people and managed to lift it back up. OUCH.
Old 26-01-2011, 09:34 PM
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my brother's a fucker for doing this, will point him in the direction of this thread.

R.I.P
Old 26-01-2011, 09:39 PM
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Scissor jacks should be banned ,
for the price of a new car the manufacturers should include a decent jack and set of stands,
RIP your mate...
Old 26-01-2011, 09:41 PM
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Sorry to hear this Steve..

R.I.P
Old 26-01-2011, 09:48 PM
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R.I.P
very sad news.
unfortunatly two deaths in hull alone last week due to vehicles falling off jacks ect.
Old 26-01-2011, 09:52 PM
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Tragic r.i.p
Had a few near misses myself and scared the crap out of me.
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Originally Posted by bythomson
Scissor jacks should be banned ,
for the price of a new car the manufacturers should include a decent jack and set of stands,
RIP your mate...
The thing is; the scissor jack is not designed to be used whilst going under the car. It is for emergency use at the roadside to change a wheel, for which there should be no reason to go under the car. In the owners manual it will clearly say that the car should be correctly secured on stands or a ramp before you work underneath it.

This case is very very sad, and highlights the dangers of not taking proper care when working underneath a car. I'm sure this guy was one of many many many people who take the risk, but was just unlucky that the risk bit back with nasty consequences.
Old 26-01-2011, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bythomson
Scissor jacks should be banned ,
for the price of a new car the manufacturers should include a decent jack and set of stands,
RIP your mate...
With no offence and I don't wanna go off topic, but scissor jacks are only supplied to change a wheel. There is no reason to be under a car while on a scissor jack, so if it falls there is 0% chance it would kill someone. I agree a better designed jack should be issued as the scissor jacks get used in the wrong way too many times like this

Im paranoid under cars at the best of times, then my brother decided to play about with my 3 ton jack as a joke and twisted it. Lucky I was only just under it laying sideways and it fell on my arm and slipped off, so didn't hurt too much. I will not go under a car without axle stands and sometimes my 3 ton trolley jack incase the stands fail.

RIP to your friend
Old 26-01-2011, 10:13 PM
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Sorry to hear this has happened to your friend,sad news.
People have said what the scissor jack is actually for and tbh I agree,no way would you get me under a car held up by one.I always remember my mate having his 2.8 Capri fall on him and that was off a trolley jack placed under the diff.The result was only minor burns to his arms off the pipes and some bruised ribs but a split second later and he would of been looking up at the underside of the car and not had his head sideways.He still got a fair old gouge and scar above his eye off the diff.He was very lucky.Makes you think.
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R.I.P.
Old 26-01-2011, 10:43 PM
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Very sad news indeed Steve.

Hear of this happening more & more, we always have a good stock of axle stands available, scattered around the place, in strategic locations, that way the temptation to take a short cut is reduced to a very low order of probability.
Like many others, I like to see a car supported by an appropriate jack & correctly placed axle stands,sort of a belt & braces thing.
Hate to sound like a chap who is wise after a fact, but even if only one unsafe incident is prevented from occurring by this advice, then it's worth writing.
Old 26-01-2011, 10:58 PM
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Whenever ive had to work on my car (like when i was away from home and crashed in the snow and had to change a rear axle bar) i jacked it up on the scissor jack, then took the spare out, put the spare under the sill with 2 bricks on it,yes still not perfect, but a lot more stable than a flimsy scissor jack.. i only had my leg under the car, but i still and always have sat the car on wheels either side, so it cannot psyhically go anywhere, i always check it cant move or drop before i put any part of my body underneath it, i know someone who had the front of a car jacked up, 3 steelies and a breezeblock under the front xmember and was tryna pull the engine out from underneath, it slipped, the car came down, the slam panel cut all four of his finger on his left hand clean off.. doing something on the cheap ALWAYS costs more in the long run..
Old 26-01-2011, 11:58 PM
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RIP Dom, see you at the funeral Steve, maybe before, flying back from America for this
Old 27-01-2011, 12:16 AM
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thats horrible, poor bloke. i only use a scissor jack for changing wheels, its quick, and easy, but there just to unstable

R.I.P
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R.I.P to your friend. I was changing the wheel on the wifes car ages ago now. I just put the wheel on and 2 nuts and the scissor jack slipped. It put a dent in the sill and a small dent in the door.
Old 27-01-2011, 06:58 AM
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tragic, senseless waste of a life


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