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Old 08-01-2011, 08:21 PM
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Default Driving cars with body damage?

i start a new job in 2 weeks, and going to need transport to and from and was going to use the sierra.

i know its NOT illegal to drive a car with no rear bumper as i have been pulled over for that before, but as the sierra has no rear light cluster i was thinking about getting a trailer light board and nailing it to the back and wiring up the lights etc and using the sierra if i have to, as i very much doubt the insurance will be sorted by then.

someting like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maypole-4ft-Tr...item2eb268b96b

i know that on the front end your not allowed sharp edges etc, but its rear damage in this instance.
Old 08-01-2011, 08:24 PM
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are you asking bout the body damage or the lights?
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Dan... An extensively damaged car would no longer conform to construction and use regs surely ? pretty sure the Gestapo would find something to issue a vehicle defect ticket for..
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this is the damage. o/s rear light cluster is no more.







as you can clearly see its fucked, but fucking typical i will need transport for my new job i start on the 24th, whats the fine etc if you get a defect ticket?

as i might have no other option...

im stressed out enough as it as the mo, its just one thing after another!
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I doubt it conforms with the type approval before the crash anyway

no sharp edges, brakes and fuel being safe and lights conforming to the required specs is the main thing really.

with your cage i doubt they could argue its not structurally sound as its stronger to start with.
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its just that the drivers side is about a foot shorter than it should be

can sor the lights etc as per my idea of the trailer board... but the bodywork, well, ill just have to leave that as i dont have a mallet big enough to make any mark lol
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what side is the rear fog light on,as if you get funny copper he might do you for not having one?
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I wouldn't drive it personally.
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Could you not knock that out with a big hammer or strap it to a tree and pull it out best you can?

Wouldnt make any diff if its already been assesed.
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should be ok really fella cant really see any danger to other road users pedestrian with regards to sharp edges
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Originally Posted by Less.
what side is the rear fog light on,as if you get funny copper he might do you for not having one?

has to be on on the o/s
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oh so i knew thaye had to have just could not remeber which side doug
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Tree chain and forward gears. Sorted.

How is the petrol tank under that?
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You'll get nothing but hassle for that. Can't you just get a banger to use?
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ill do whatever needs doing RE the lights, just wondering about the damage thats all.

i have been offered the use of a pulldozer by vaughant off here, so might take him up if i cant get a hire car off the insurance.

so might be able to pull the panels out a bit, but then the boot wont shut

Ł10 odd for one of those trailer boards will do tho if im not likly to get arrested for driving a fucked car
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Originally Posted by Iain Mac

How is the petrol tank under that?
its in the boot lol
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Get it pulled matey, u'll b suprised how easy it comes out and the difference.
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thing is if your being followed by a copper then you WILL get pulled. that in itself is garunteed. but they cant give a ticket unless its unroadworthy. If lights and all major mot'able systems are working/repaired and all sharp bits blunted then what can a copper actually ticket you for?? he isnt in a place to make any comment on the ability of the car to withstand another crash. In reality it would be fine because of the cage. whats crushed there is all crumple zone. Still plenty of crumple left
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Originally Posted by xr_craig
You'll get nothing but hassle for that. Can't you just get a banger to use?
well, yes. but i shouldnt fucking have to!
Old 08-01-2011, 08:56 PM
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Not that it makes it ok, but I've seen worse on the road!

If it were a less valuable car I'd say have a bash (literally) at straightening it out a bit then cover it in gaffer tape, no sharp edges!

I also saw an old P100 Sierra recently using a trailer board nailed to the back instead of it's own lights.
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where abouts are you mate? ive got a standard mk1 sierra bumper here you could use, dont want anything for it but depends how far away you are, and look for some xr4i's being broken as you could ask them to cut out the bits you need and you can always do a quick diy job on a bit of cuting and welding ofc it wont look perfect but itll get your car into a useable condition cheaply
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im near swindon mate. a month or so ago i woul have had it as i was working around that way during the week.

i know no rear bumper is not an offense as i got pulled on the way back florm chips old place after a drifting incident that removed the rear bumper lol. the sargent said its not an mot fail, so fuck off but the car is a shitter lol.

if it comes to it, ill use it with a board. if i get pulled so be it. but if the insurance are pissing about taking their time and wont give a hire car, whats a man to do!
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First second the cops see that, (not even Traffics) and you'll be pulled. The fact that it happened weeks before just makes you look more of a liability....
I would say its very likely that would get impounded.

Bumper missing isn't in itself a problem, but lots of sharp edges are!

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Originally Posted by Fudgey
well, yes. but i shouldnt fucking have to!
I know that mate, but is it really worth causing yourself extra grief?
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probably, if i want too keep this job....
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Originally Posted by Ade
First second the cops see that, (not even Traffics) and you'll be pulled. The fact that it happened weeks before just makes you look more of a liability....
I would say its very likely that would get impounded.

Bumper missing isn't in itself a problem, but lots of sharp edges are!
well, i think htat even is ussain bolt were to run full pelt into the back of me, hed come away with little more than a cut knee lol
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I'd screw a bumper on there some how to hide them sharp bits, Then stick a light in there some how not sure if a trailer board would stand out more and bring you un-wanted attention.
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its bent to fuck mate. a rear bumper is not an mot requirement! just that working lights are.

and i wont get a set of 3dr lights for Ł10, nor be able to smash the panel out to fit them.

so self tapping a board to the boot and wiring up the lights for little more than Ł10 sems ideal if it means i can get to work!

im willing to take the risk until something stops me!
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its 3 points and Ł60 for a flapping rear bumper on a mk5 escort, screws came out on wheel arch thats all
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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
Dan just pop down to mine in it mate..me you a porte power and some blocks of wood and youl be amazed at how good we can get that lot out!!

Obviously wont look spot on but i bet youl get a light cluster back in it and it will be fine to use..

Just let me know and il make sure iv got some time to help you sort it??


cheers danny
thats an amazing offer danny, but funds are zero for it now im afraid.

how much does that sort of thing cost?
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i love you

ill check the diary (ie speak to wife tomoz and see if the fucker will start )
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ps, dont suppose you have a set of rear light clusters do you???
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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
will cost you lunch only mate!!

Im afraid i cant reduce the cost anymore than that!!lol

So when you coming?


cheers danny


But have you seen the size of Danny and how much he eats!!

But, that is a great offer.
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pmsl, mc'ds or what???

im not taking you to the hilton
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dude you cant drive that!! if danny cant sort it, i have a fiat coupe that i will be putting up for sale soon, just needs tax, you'd be more than welcome to borrow it if you put some for sale signs in it
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Dan; i wish you would have said earlier; i had a motor here you could have used for as long as you needed. But i sold it tonight!

either way, dont look a gift horse in the mouth, get it down to Danny's!
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matt, if i do take it back down to danny, ill be driving it, not trailering it

ronnie, why not, it still starts lol!
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Great offer Danny true gent!

And for the price of supper, not many people would offer that.
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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
Theres a mc ds down the road mate dont panic...


cheers danny

i was joking mate, might stretch to a burgerking lol
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
ps, dont suppose you have a set of rear light clusters do you???

Dan i know someone with a pair of badly tinted rear lights, i'll call him in the morning and pm you


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