AstoN_B

iTrader: (1)

Yeah but depends why your pump failed in first place.

zetecbeast

What engine spec are you running mate?

lacey

Have a look in performance ford mag at the st170 focus with the burtonpower engine as that has one of zetec external oil pumps on it

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

What engine and spec/power?

I don;t think a billet will help personally.

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Just had a look.

Pity the feature didn't make a bigger deal about it seeing as it's one of the biggest advances in Zetec tuning for some years IMO!

lacey

I know but that's one of those things lol , I am starting to get the parts together to build 10 kits for stock but saying that most of them are spoken for

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Drop me a text when you have mate and get me some high res pics and I'll make sure they go in the mags

lacey

Ok mate will do , cheers

zetecbeast

Is that in this months mag? any more info anyOne?

zetecbeast

I thought people were saying dry sump kits were Ł2k plus?

http://www.burtonpower.com/tuning-gu...duct_group=196


Ł1120 for a full kit? or are there other parts that are needed?

crazycage

they are. you will still need to buy the oil tank , brearther and a fuck load of hose and fittings

lacey

They are , a kit cost from around Ł800 to Ł1500 then you got to get hose at a shed load per meter and then add fittings at a load more and then you have a shed load of other bits to get so to fit a full on good system/set up will cost at least 2k , if you do it for less then you have done well

zetecbeast

cheers lads. I did think it was missing hosing, but thought sure;y it couldn't be sold as a kit without it...! lol

yeah, aeroquip and related stuff costs a fortune.
Back to plan B. Build it, if it breaks bin it and go YB or another engine.

lacey

Like I said , I do a kit to replace the std pump which will be ready to sell once I have supplied Ian howell one to test

superbikerider1

What power was ya runnin? Silvertop or blacktop?

superbikerider1

Ignore that last comment! The answer has already been said!

zetecbeast

Sounds good mate. Will look out for the results!

rs turbo lad

spec is probably all the thinngs everyone says don't do lol
but here it is,


silvertop zetec
375bhp ish not proven
lightweight flywheel
lightweight pully
originally ballanced bottom end but had a replaced clutch and flywheel in its life so not ballanced now
patten oil pump

2 bar of boost 7200rpm limiter

covered about 15 20k on road over 3 years
and hammered to death at pod with 100's of runs up strip cos always go 4 5 times a year

so whats everyone think to that lol

rs turbo lad

did u ever produce a batch of these billet oil pump gears for selling mate may be intrested mate,

i am quite willing to test anything on my car mate as without people trying new stuff nothing ever gets achived or tested, who cares about warrenty mate development is only way to learn!!

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

As you say, from what we've seen that's a bad recipe for an oil pump! Put standard pulleys/flywheel back on with a genuine second hand Ford pump and I'd bet money you wouldn't have another problem at that sort of power.

Although out of interest: what size gudgeon pins are in your rods?

QplateRST!

How much are these going to be available for ?

rs turbo lad

which months peformance ford is this external oil pump in?

need to be having a look!

what sort of price are kits going to retail at and does this use the original sump and just an external pump?

zetecbeast

Well it's this months mag, It doesn't say anything about the external oil pump kit apart from it has one...! developed by burton iirc. It's a wet sump kit yes. I bet its gonna be pricey... best part of a grand I bet tho I could be wrong!!

lacey

It was working on this already but burtons wanted one asap for that car , so it was not so much developed for burtons but they are the first person to use one , unfortunately the mag didn't cover it to well which was a shame ,never mind , the kit will be around a Ł1000 ( no more) but there is alot in it and it's going to be a buy and install and go kit, no hinden cost ,
The kit will incl

Blacktop steel pan/ modded
Pump bracket
Gear Pump
Pulley+belts
Stainless pipes/fittings
Oil in sandwich plate
Bolts
Std modded front cover
And other bits that I can't remember

rs turbo lad

So this kit won't fit silver top engines without swapping sumps around etc as it sounds like ur only including the lower half of the sump pan and the front covers will be different to or am I wrong?

lacey

For a silvertop you will need to put the alloy part of the blacktop sump on ( it does fit but you have to remove a part of cast webbing in the alloy part of sump ) , and I will carry stock on both front covers so this kit will fit black and silvertop engines , as the kit is designed with both engines in mind , also the kit should let you carry on running air con if you have it

LukeDaisley

iTrader: (1)

any updates?

lacey

There are some pics on here now of the single stage pump kit on my mate post ( Drayton) if you want a look ?

rs turbo lad

Could u put a link up to pic's?

lacey

I ain't got a clue how to do that lol, I will ask my mate if he can

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Here you go mate!

Looks fantastic by the way!

superbikerider1

Is it available to buy as a kit yet an if so what price?

luke19790_3

nice how much??

packman

Building a 2ltr N/A of around 240 hp and 8k + revs , putting a set on a luke warm engine reving to 7200 max is pointless.

Its the harmonics of the high revs that is breaking them ...... they need putting eaither on a engine on the dyno witch is going to pull hight revs for a period of time or a race or rally engine....

R-A-J

And if you having the strengthening option for the gearbox/engine your chasing 3k

lacey

It should be soon , the one in the pic is ians to test on a turbo engine , as the only other testing is on a n/a engine in time attack , it will fit silver and black tops but you will need to run a black top alloy pan of the pan ( which fits silver tops with a little work ) .
It is aiming at being a drive in/drive out kit if your good with a spanner .



Thanks mate for moving the pics over