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23-06-2010, 10:13 PM
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Benni that comeback was done about 30 posts ago. Not to mention i dont think any scottish/irish/welsh person has ever said on here that we could do better!
23-06-2010, 10:19 PM
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Mate, you lot are CAMPED on the other side.
Exactly, so its not a fair view of an England game is it. You're biased.
Also at the people going on about germany being just as bad... i think they have been watching the wrong team! they've had one slip up and 2 convincing wins imo! Compared to Englands; 1 win against a pish team, 1 draw against a pisher team and 1 draw against an average team. And only 2 goals scored.
There's a difference between over reaction and celebrating going through. Do you honestly not expect people to be happy with the result today?
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23-06-2010, 10:20 PM
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What i'm saying is i'm not blinkered by the english media/commentators etc.. i can see it from the other side.
But aye, i hate you and want you to lose i guess.
Also at the people going on about germany being just as bad... i think they have been watching the wrong team! they've had one slip up and 2 convincing wins imo! Compared to Englands; 1 win against a pish team, 1 draw against a pisher team and 1 draw against an average team. And only 2 goals scored.
If you all came back down to earth and realised things are not as rosey as you all think, i rekon the rest of the world might have a fairer view of you.
With any luck your hooligans will have a ruck after Germany horse you aswell... that'd be some buzz.
But aye, i hate you and want you to lose i guess.
Also at the people going on about germany being just as bad... i think they have been watching the wrong team! they've had one slip up and 2 convincing wins imo! Compared to Englands; 1 win against a pish team, 1 draw against a pisher team and 1 draw against an average team. And only 2 goals scored.
If you all came back down to earth and realised things are not as rosey as you all think, i rekon the rest of the world might have a fairer view of you.
With any luck your hooligans will have a ruck after Germany horse you aswell... that'd be some buzz.
As for your laughable "i'm free from the bias of the fans/media etc ", are you fuck, you're massively biased the other way, i'm surprised you dont fall over with that chip on your shoulder
If you feel the need to sit on here and slag off england so blindly you've got some serious problems/issues IMO.
23-06-2010, 10:21 PM
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I've had this all night off my best mate for Neith-Swansea Wales and a his mate from Perth, Scotland. Although Half Welsh myself, I consider myself English, and we won 1-0 tonight. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! We still won, we are still through the group stages... sour grapes?...
23-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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23-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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They'll keep going as long as they get a reaction.
I don't think Germany have been outstanding from what I have seen of them. They played reasonably well tonight, but not massively better than England I don't think. Ghana had plenty of chances, and they're not the best side, so I see no reason at all why England can't beat them.
Many on here have said England had a bad start and haven't hit their best form yet, not by any stretch of the imagination, but today's game was a step in the right direction, with a much more positive approach and a lot of chances.
Plenty of other teams have had a poor start too, and France are out, so we weren't the only ones to struggle out of the starting blocks.
If we have a good game and play to anything like our potential, we could beat Germany, and you all know that full well. We might not, given our start, but they haven't got a perfect record either don't forget, so it's all to play for.
The media may hype it up plenty, but there is nothing wrong with the fans having some belief in their team. I'd say that's pretty natural. We have plenty believe in, as we do have a good squad, and the potential to do well. Plenty of teams have done shit in the group stages and gone on to finals or to win even.
I personally don't think England will progress too far. I think we could well beat Germany, but I fancy Argentina to win it, so I don't think we'll get past them if we have to play them, which I believe we would.
At the end of the day though, it's only a game. If all you've got is hating us for being there and having some level of success, and bitching about it, or trying to wind fans up, well, perhaps you should find a new hobby, or a woman
I don't think Germany have been outstanding from what I have seen of them. They played reasonably well tonight, but not massively better than England I don't think. Ghana had plenty of chances, and they're not the best side, so I see no reason at all why England can't beat them.
Many on here have said England had a bad start and haven't hit their best form yet, not by any stretch of the imagination, but today's game was a step in the right direction, with a much more positive approach and a lot of chances.
Plenty of other teams have had a poor start too, and France are out, so we weren't the only ones to struggle out of the starting blocks.
If we have a good game and play to anything like our potential, we could beat Germany, and you all know that full well. We might not, given our start, but they haven't got a perfect record either don't forget, so it's all to play for.
The media may hype it up plenty, but there is nothing wrong with the fans having some belief in their team. I'd say that's pretty natural. We have plenty believe in, as we do have a good squad, and the potential to do well. Plenty of teams have done shit in the group stages and gone on to finals or to win even.
I personally don't think England will progress too far. I think we could well beat Germany, but I fancy Argentina to win it, so I don't think we'll get past them if we have to play them, which I believe we would.
At the end of the day though, it's only a game. If all you've got is hating us for being there and having some level of success, and bitching about it, or trying to wind fans up, well, perhaps you should find a new hobby, or a woman
23-06-2010, 10:25 PM
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So... if, before the WC started, you knew the group and the squad you had available to you, someone offered you going through in 2nd spot, having only scored twice and won one game v slovenia, you'd have been happy, as 'being unbeaten and through is all that matters?'
If you say yes you are a liar! "England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!
Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
If you say yes you are a liar!
"England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
23-06-2010, 10:26 PM
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23-06-2010, 10:28 PM
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TBH NO team in the WC have yet proved themselves, but this topic has proved that thats Scots and Weksh (like tonight) have been all too keen to take the piss although they haven't even qualified. And before everyone jumps on the England are playing shite bandwagon etc, yes we are, but at least we are through....Just.
23-06-2010, 10:29 PM
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So... if, before the WC started, you knew the group and the squad you had available to you, someone offered you going through in 2nd spot, having only scored twice and won one game v slovenia, you'd have been happy, as 'being unbeaten and through is all that matters?'
If you say yes you are a liar! "England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!
Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
If you say yes you are a liar!
"England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
But i expect nobody gets drunk and over excited in scotland and says dumbass things to tv cameras and the press only report facts.
23-06-2010, 10:33 PM
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So... if, before the WC started, you knew the group and the squad you had available to you, someone offered you going through in 2nd spot, having only scored twice and won one game v slovenia, you'd have been happy, as 'being unbeaten and through is all that matters?'
If you say yes you are a liar! "England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!
Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
If you say yes you are a liar!
"England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
Before the World Cup we were considered as possible contenders, and that hasn't changed. Has half our sqaud disappeared? No, it hasn't. We're still in it, we still have those players, and we still have the potential to win.
We, and many others, had a shakey start, but we're still there. I haven't heard any media coverage say that we're going to win; just that we have a chance to. And we do have a chance. Clearly not as good a chance as Argentina, Portugal and Spain, but we do have a chance.
We had the potential to reach the final before the tournament started, and we still have it now.
The media hype is a bit silly at times, and England fans have very high expectations. Looking at our Fifa rankings, we have every right to expect a lot, especially given the league our players come from, and the talent we have at our disposal. It was undoubtedly a disappointing start, no one here has denied that.
That just seems like picking holes for picking hole's sake
23-06-2010, 10:37 PM
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So... if, before the WC started, you knew the group and the squad you had available to you, someone offered you going through in 2nd spot, having only scored twice and won one game v slovenia, you'd have been happy, as 'being unbeaten and through is all that matters?'
If you say yes you are a liar! "England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!
Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
If you say yes you are a liar!
"England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
No disrespect mate but I can't be arsed any more. Just too happy, I'm off, enjoy talking about us.
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23-06-2010, 10:44 PM
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So... if, before the WC started, you knew the group and the squad you had available to you, someone offered you going through in 2nd spot, having only scored twice and won one game v slovenia, you'd have been happy, as 'being unbeaten and through is all that matters?'
If you say yes you are a liar! "England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!
Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
If you say yes you are a liar!
"England expects" and all that media bullshit, you have majory underperformed yet 29minutes into todays game your commentator proclaimed Englands ability to reach the finals, come on to fuck mate! If you manned up and said "yeah we have been really poor, not good enough, going to take a performance to bear the germans now but i'm going to keep faith and cross my fingers" then i rekon there would be alot less anemosity from the scots/welsh/irish!... However it seems like very few English people can take the step back and be realistic!Of course given the state of the performances in the first 2 games, there must be a huge sense of relief after todays win, however harking back to the above ^^, why can't it be taken as a small step to the eventual goal(excuse the pun)? Instead of the assumption of being named world champions in a few weeks?
There, that was an English person (not to mention an English person who is not that much of a footy fan) taking a step back and being realistic just for Coldo.
24-06-2010, 06:52 AM
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By far the best we have performed. Same old record from the jocks though
Love to stick the boot in when we play shit ala the 1st 2 games which is fine
Shame you cant applaud us on our win.
USA are through as well. 2 draws and one 1 -0 win, same as us, but i bet you love the fact they are through.
You bitter bitter bunch of people 
Which channel is showing the England - Germany game and at what time? Couldnt see any world cup game listed on Sunday on the sky tv guide?
Love to stick the boot in when we play shit ala the 1st 2 games which is fine
Shame you cant applaud us on our win.
USA are through as well. 2 draws and one 1 -0 win, same as us, but i bet you love the fact they are through.
You bitter bitter bunch of people
Which channel is showing the England - Germany game and at what time? Couldnt see any world cup game listed on Sunday on the sky tv guide?
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24-06-2010, 07:49 AM
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By far the best we have performed. Same old record from the jocks though
Love to stick the boot in when we play shit ala the 1st 2 games which is fine
Shame you cant applaud us on our win.
USA are through as well. 2 draws and one 1 -0 win, same as us, but i bet you love the fact they are through.
You bitter bitter bunch of people
Which channel is showing the England - Germany game and at what time? Couldnt see any world cup game listed on Sunday on the sky tv guide?
Love to stick the boot in when we play shit ala the 1st 2 games which is fine
Shame you cant applaud us on our win.
USA are through as well. 2 draws and one 1 -0 win, same as us, but i bet you love the fact they are through.
You bitter bitter bunch of people
Which channel is showing the England - Germany game and at what time? Couldnt see any world cup game listed on Sunday on the sky tv guide?
24-06-2010, 08:09 AM
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Keeping the ball in the corner is a good legitimate way of wasting time neat the end of the game. If its good enough for Brazil when 3-1 up v Ivory coast, then its good enough for us. Hell, they were even rolling around and diving up at their corner flag (which lead to the Kaka incident).
(which lead to the Kaka incident).
24-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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I'd go for moaning Scottish and vuvuzelas!
24-06-2010, 09:49 AM
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That is also true we were 1-0 up but i don't class been in the corner pissing about as professional i would rather they had of had the confidence to get in amongst it trying to get a late second goal. There was plenty of chances for the second third goal including the one disallowed hopefully they will either up there game or the commentators would shut the fuck up about how much greater we are than the team were playing
Christ some people would go and buy a problem if they didnt have one.
24-06-2010, 10:11 AM
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I have a feeling the next game is the BBC. I might be wrong though.
I bloody hope it is, I hate the ITV coverage, it's shit. Fed up of all the ad breaks they cram into half time and the stupid title music and shit. And that Adrian Chiles is a cock end
I bloody hope it is, I hate the ITV coverage, it's shit. Fed up of all the ad breaks they cram into half time and the stupid title music and shit. And that Adrian Chiles is a cock end
