squizxr

Hello fellas, bought a xr3 last weekend, and there is a plaque rivetted to the driver side sill!! The engraved writing has rubbed off, but apparantly the car used to be owned by the Royal Family!! The plate is YPU 7X, anyone no where i can find out the history?? Without giving the robbing cunts at the DVLA money??

Cheers

S1

Pics?

morcheen

doubt if the fiver the dvla charge to see all the old owners would show a royal one,they don't usually have their names on logbooks.start looking through old press pics of the royals for the car rare to see an xr3 but even better if fergie 'the scrounger' might have used it

rog

iTrader: (2)

What does the plaque look like?
Does it have any markings on it at all?
Who told you it was owned by the royal family???

Oranoco

Is the plaque coveing a rust hole? Just a thought, it is an Escort afterall

squizxr

Ive got a couple of pics, will upload em now!!!

Morcheen - i was thinking of doing that, didnt no where to start tho really

Rog - The previous owner, thats what he was told!! The plaque has writing on it, but cant make it out, the writing used to be red!! If you lift the door seal, theres a number stamped onto the top of the plaque

TN

That the plate mate? theres a few threads around people asking the same question about your car, previous owners etc

to me the second red word looks like PROMISE

TN

Had another look, first word looks like PERRY

So PERRY PROMISE lol, not sure what it means though

FasterFords

Get a really good picture of the plaque and fiddle around with the contrast settings in Photoshop, it can really show up these sort of things.

squizxr

The plate looks exactly like that, altho im not sure the stamped number at the top is the same!! Any links to these threads?? Have never seen a plaque like this before

Faster Fords - il try and get over to me mates where it is and get a decent pic of the plaque!!

squizxr

Some pics;

TN

Its definately the same car mate as he even mentions the reg, someone also mentions something about a garage called Perrys and something along the lines of this was a plaque for a warrenty 'PERRYS PROMISE' type of thing, not sure how true it is

http://www.xrstyle.co.uk/forums/view...er=asc&start=0

Do a search on the users posts and he mentions the car a few times, maybe contact him get some info?

SWITCHBLADE

iTrader: (5)

Could be something to do with a percival perry who back in the day was head honcho of ford in britain and i think the first to open a ford factory outside the U.S and was in charge when dagenham was opened ????.

More likely is this was sold either new or as a 2nd hand motor from PERRY`S FORD and they sold it with some sort of warranty ie the "PROMISE".

The 19382k is probably just the date ie 19-3-82.

Dave.

SWITCHBLADE

iTrader: (5)

fuck, someone beat me to the perrys garage bit while typing lol.

Dave.

Mike C

iTrader: (1)

Perry's are a big chain of dealerships. E-mail them and ask the question.

squizxr

Cheers for that mate!! Thats the fella who i bought the car off, and he wasnt 100% sure!!

Switchblade - It could be that, but wouldnt there have been more cars sold with the same kinda plaque?? If there was im sure somebody on here would have stumbled upon one before

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

So the previous owner (AKA the SELLER) told you it was owned by the Royal Family?

must be true then

morcheen

might say DEL.DATE at the bottom,maybe that is where the top stamps should have been put? perry and not perrys is odd,always known as perrys as long as i can recall.

mk3_escort

this might have been the 19,382 car Perrys sold and the promise may be rust prevention from some sort of waxoil application

Tango Ford

Yes you do have a rare car............most became coke cans in the 90s

BTW i have owned a car with royal connections,i bought it off a right gay old Queen

cosevo

http://www.perrys.co.uk/high-wycombe-ford

read the bit 3/4 way down under side heading 'used cars' mentions the Perrys Promise, sounds like they are still using that slogan

whybee

i´d be a bit careful buying cars with a royal connection matey, i brought a 1 owner, fully "loaded" s class merc back in the 90´s, not 100% on the royal connection as the log book said some weird name, if i remember right it was like al famed....oh no sorry it was al fayed, anyway, i digress, so although you may think it makes it well looked after, mine was a bit dodgy, i brought it late at night (always a no no) it seemed to have a few scapes but nothing i couldnt fix, but the next norming, my god, the interior was shocking, a right mess, stuff spilt everywhere, luckily it had leather but the "dye" has started to run.

should have known better than to trust a french trader.

Iain Mac

I hear the Queen has bought Fergie an all-expenses-paid trip to the Paris Ritz, including the use of a chauffeur driven Mercedes while she's there.

morcheen

did he do drag racing ?

spoke to my bruv who worked for perry's he said it was W.H.Perry so it is something to do with them,but he can't remember the plate.
have you checked for any rust prevention? must have had some to have lasted so well

Rod-Tarry

Marc Perry was Marketing manager. Use Google, i dont want to get drawn in but info out there.

paprst

May i ask how much you paid for this m8 ?

Mk1 Mex

iTrader: (1)

Hi,
Judging by your reg it was first registered in Chelmsford and Perrys was a Ford dealers in Essex.

Copied this from Series One Forum, enjoy working out where you car is from..

Here's a how-to for identifying your cars origins, and what the letters on your registration plate mean:


Numberplate two letter area code system.


In the now redundant system, the numberplate contained a group of three letters at the end. The second and third letters denote the location of first registration.

For example:

A234 UYU

The second and third letters denote the location of first registration:

A234 UYU

'YU' = London (Central)

On suffix registered cars it works in the following way. For example:

CCW 925Y

CCW 925Y

'CW' = Preston


Here is the definitive list of letter codes:


AA Bournemouth
AB Worcester
AC Coventry
AD Gloucester
AE Bristol
AF Truro
AG Hull
AH Norwich
AI County Meath
AJ Middlesbrough
AK Sheffield
AL Nottingham
AM Swindon
AN Reading
AO Carlisle
AP Brighton
AR Chelmsford
AS Inverness
AT Hull
AU Nottingham
A V Peterborough
AW Shrewsbury
AX Cardiff
AY Leicester
AZ Belfast

BA Manchester
BB Newcastle upon Tyne
BC Leicester
BD Northampton
BE Lincoln
BF Stoke on Trent
BG Liverpool
BH Luton
BI County Monaghan
BJ Ipswich
BK Portsmouth
BL Reading
BM Luton
BN Manchester
BO Cardiff
BP Portsmouth
BR Newcastle upon Tyne
BS Aberdeen
BT Leeds
BU Manchester
BV Preston
BW Oxford
BX Haverfordwest
BY London (North West)
BZ County Down

CA Chester
CB Manchester
CC Bangor
CD Brighton
CE Peterborough
CF Reading
CG Bournemouth
CH Nottingham
CI Queens County (now County Laois)
CJ Gloucester
CK Preston
CL Norwich
CM Liverpool
CN Newcastle upon Tyne
CO Exeter
CP Huddersfield
CR Portsmouth
CS Glasgow
CT Lincoln
CU Newcastle upon Tyne
CV Truro
CW Preston
CX Huddersfield
CY Swansea
CZ Belfast

DA Birmingham
DB Manchester
DC Middlesbrough
DD Gloucester
DE Haverfordwest
DF Gloucester
DG Gloucester
DH Dudley
DI County Roscommon
DJ Liverpool
DK Manchester
DL Portsmouth (Reserved for cars registered on Isle of Wight)
DM Chester
DN Leeds
DO Lincoln
DP Reading
DR Exeter
DS Glasgow
DT Sheffield
DU Coventry
DV Exeter
DW Cardiff
DX Ipswich
DY Brighton
DZ County Antrim

EA Dudley
EB Peterborough
EC Preston
ED Liverpool
EE Lincoln
EF Middlesbrough
EG Peterborough
EH Stoke on Trent
EI County Sligo
EJ Haverfordwest
EK Liverpool
EL Bournemouth
EM Liverpool
EN Manchester
EO Preston
EP Swansea
ER Peterborough
ES Dundee
ET Sheffield
EU Bristol
EV Chelmsford
EW Peterborough
EX Norwich
EY Bangor
EZ Belfast

FA Stoke on Trent
FB Bristol
FC Oxford
FD Dudley
FE Lincoln
FF Bangor
FG Brighton
FH Gloucester
FI County Tipperary (North Riding)
FJ Exeter
FK Dudley
FL Peterborough
FM Chester
FN Maidstone
FO Gloucester
FP Leicester
FR Preston
FS Edinburgh
FT Newcastle upon Tyne
FU Lincoln
FV Preston
FW Lincoln
FX Bournemouth
FY Liverpool
FZ Belfast

GA Glasgow
GB Glasgow
GC London (South West)
GD Glasgow
GE Glasgow
GF London (South West)
GG Glasgow
GH London (South West)
GI County Tipperary (South Riding)
GJ London (South West)
GK London (South West)
GL Truro
GM Reading
GN London (South West)
GO London (South West)
GP London (South West)
GR Newcastle upon Tyne
GS Luton
GT London (South West)
GU London (South East)
GV Ipswich
GW London (South Eas)
GX London (South East)
GY London (South East)
GZ Belfast

HA Dudley
HB Cardiff
HC Brighton
HD Huddersfield
HE Sheffield
HF Liverpool
HG Preston
HH Carlisle
HI County Tipperary (South Riding)
HJ Chelmsford
HK Chelmsford
HL Sheffield
HM London (Central)
HN Middlesbrough
HO Bournemouth
HP Coventry
HR Swindon
HS Glasgow
HT Bristol
HU Bristol
HV London (Central)
HW Bristol
HX London (Central)
HY Bristol
HZ County Tyrone

IA County Antrim
IB County Armagh
IC County Carlow
ID County Cavan
IE County Clare
IF County Cork
IH County Donegal
IJ County Down
IK County Dublin
IL County Fermanagh
IM County Galway
IN County Kerry
IO County Kildare
IP County Kilkenny
IR Kings County (now County Offaly)
IS County Mayo
IT County Leitrim
IU County Limerick
IV County Limerick
IW County Londonderry/Derry
IX County Longford
IY County Louth
IZ County Mayo

JA Manchester
JB Reading
JC Bangor
JD London (Central)
JE Peterborough
JF Leicester
JG Maidstone
JH Reading
JI County Tyrone
JJ Maidstone
JK Brighton
JL Lincoln
JM Reading
JN Chelmsford
JO Oxford
JP Liverpool
JR Newcastle upon Tyne
JS Inverness
JT Bournemouth
JU Leicester
JV Lincoln
JW Birmingham
JX Huddersfield
JY Exeter
JZ County Down

KA Liverpool
KB Liverpool
KC Liverpool
KD Liverpool
KE Maidstone
KF Liverpool
KG Cardiff
KH Hull
KI County Waterford
KJ Maidstone
KK Maidstone
KL Maidstone
KM Maidstone
KN Maidstone
KO Maidstone
KP Maidstone
KR Maidstone
KS Edinburgh
KT Maidstone
KU Sheffield
KV Coventry
KW Sheffield
KX Luton
KY Sheffield
KZ CountyAntrim

LA London (North West)
LB London (North West)
LC London (North West)
LD London (North West)
LE London (North West)
LF London (North West)
LG Chester
LH London (North West)
LI County Westmeath
LJ Bournemouth
LK London (North West)
LL London (North West)
LM London (North West)
LN London (North West)
LO London (North West)
LP London (North West)
LR London (North West)
LS Edinburgh
LT London (North West)
LU London (North West)
LV Liverpool
LW London (North West)
LX London (North West)
LY London (North West)
LZ CountyArmagh

MA Chester
MB Chester
MC London (North East)
MD London (North East)
ME London (North East)
MF London (North East)
MG London (North East)
MH London (North East)
MI County Wexford
MJ Luton
MK London (North East)
ML London (North East)
MM London (North East)
MN Isle of Man
MO Reading
MP London (North East)
MR Swindon
MS Edinburgh
MT London (North East)
MU London (North East)
MV London (North East)
MW Swindon
MX London (North East)
MY London (North East)
MZ Belfast

NA Manchester
NB Manchester
NC Manchester
ND Manchester
NE Manchester
NF Manchester
NG Norwich
NH Northampton
NI County Wicklow
NJ Brighton
NK Luton
NL Newcastle
NM Luton
NN Nottingham
NO Chelmsford
NP Worcester
NR Leicester
NS Glasgow
NT Shrewsbury
NU Nottingham
NV Northampton
NW Leeds
NX Dudley
NY Cardiff
NZ County Londonderry/Derry

OA Birmingham
OB Birmingham
OC Birmingham
OD Exeter
OE Birmingham
OF Birmingham
OG Birmingham
OH Birmingham
OI Belfast
OJ Birmingham
OK Birmingham
OL Birmingham
OM Birmingham
ON Birmingham
OO Chelmsford
OP Birmingham
OR Portsmouth
OS Glasgow
OT Portsmouth
OU Bristol
OV Birmingham
OW Portsmouth
OX Birmingham
OY London (North West)
OZ Belfast

PA Guildford
PB Guildford
PC Guildford
PD Guildford
PE Guildford
PF Guildford
PG Guildford
PH Guildford
PI Cork
PJ Guildford
PK Guildford
PL Guildford
PM Guildford
PN Brighton
PO Portsmouth ( Formerly Post Office vehicles)
PP Luton
PR Bournemouth
PS Aberdeen
PT Newcastle upon Tyne
PU Chelmsford
PV Ipswich
PW Norwich
PX Portsmouth
PY Middlesbrough
PZ Belfast

RA Nottingham
RB Nottingham
RC Nottingham
RD Reading
RE Stoke on Trent
RF Stoke on Trent
RG Newcastle
RH Hull
RI County Dublin
RJ Manchester
RK London (North West)
RL Truro
RM Carlisle
RN Preston
RO Luton
RP Northampton
RR Nottingham
RS Aberdeen
RT Ipswich
RU Bournemouth
RV Portsmouth
RW Coventry
RX Reading
RY Leicester
RZ County Antrim

SA Aberdeen
SB Glasgow
SC Edinburgh
SD Glasgow
SE Aberdeen
SF Edinburgh
SG Edinburgh
SH Edinburgh
SI County
SJ Glasgow
SK Inverness
SL Dundee
SM Carlisle
SN Dundee
SO Aberdeen
SP Dundee
SR Dundee
SS Aberdeen
ST Inverness
SU Glasgow
SW Carlisle
SX Edinburgh
SZ County Down

TA Exeter
TB Liverpool
TC Bristol
TD Manchester
TE Manchester
TF Reading
TG Cardiff
TH Swansea
TI Limerick
TJ Liverpool
TK Exeter
TL Lincoln
TM Luton
TN Newcastle upon Tyne
TO Nottingham
TP Portsmouth
TR Portsmouth
TS Dundee
TT Exeter
TU Chester
TV Nottingham
TW Chelmsford
TX Cardiff
TY Newcastle
TZ Belfast

UA Leeds
UB Leeds
UC London (Central)
UD Oxford
UE Dudley
UF Brighton
UG Leeds
UH Cardiff
UI County Londonderry/Derry
UJ Shrewsbury
UK Birmingham
UL London (Central)
UM Leeds
UN Exeter
UO Exeter
UP Newcastle upon Tyne
UR Luton
US Glasgow
UT Leicester
UU London (Central)
UV London (Central)
UW London (Central)
UX Shrewsbury
UY Worcester
UZ Belfast

VA Peterborough
VB Maidstone
VC Coventry
VD Birmingham
VE Peterborough
VF Norwich
VG Norwich
VH Huddersfield
VJ Gloucester
VK Newcastle upon Tyne
VL Lincoln
VM Manchester
VN Middlesbrough
VO Nottingham
VP Birmingham
VR Manchester
VS Glasgow
VT Stoke on Trent
VU Manchester
VV Northampton
VW Chelmsford
VX Chelmsford
VY Leeds
VZ CountyTyrone

WA Sheffield
WB Sheffield
WC Chelmsford
WD Dudley
WE Sheffield
WF Sheffield
WG Sheffield
WH Manchester
WI Waterford
WJ Sheffield
WK Coventry
WL Oxford
WM Liverpool
WN Swansea
WO Cardiff
WP Worcester
WR Leeds
WS Bristol
WT Leeds
WU Leeds
WV Brighton
WW Leeds
WX Leeds
WY Leeds
WZ Belfast

XI Belfast
XP Export to Europe
XZ County Armagh

YA Taunton
YB Taunton
YC Taunton
YD Taunton
YE London (Central)
YF London (Central)
YG Leeds
YH London (Central)
YI County Dublin
YJ Brighton
YK London (Central)
YL London (Central)
YM London (Central)
YN London (Central)
YO London (Central)
YP London (Central)
YR London (Central)
YS Glasgow
YT London (Central)
YU London (Central)
YV London (Central)
YW London (Central)
YX London (Central)
YY London (Central)
YZ County Londonderry

ZA Dublin
ZB County Cork
ZC Dublin
ZD Dublin
ZE County Dublin
ZF Cork
ZG County Dublin
ZH Dublin
ZJ Dublin
ZK County Cork
ZL County Dublin
ZM County Galway
ZN County Meath
ZO County Dublin
ZP County Donegal
ZR County Wexford
ZS County Dublin
ZT County Cork
ZU County Dublin
ZV County Dublin
ZW County Kildare
ZX County Kerry
ZY County Louth

cossiejay

my thoughts exactley

squizxr

Dont be a dick, where did i say it WAS owned by the Royal Family??? I said APPARANTLY The previous owner is a friend, ive known about the car for years while he was re-building it, but no-one knew what that plaque meant, APPARANTLY it means it was a Royals car, i just wanted to find out whether it was true or not!!

I only payed £400 for the car, needs a bit of work, passenger floor plan, inner sill, few little bits here and there, the cars complete but in bits!!

I spoke to someone from Perrys yesterday, and she was goin to have a look thro there systems to see if anything is documentated, but surely if it was a warranty stamp someone on here would have come across one before??

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Top info above.

S1

Royal family or not, £400 quid is a bargain for what looks a very solid XR3.

The rego looks familiar, could well be a car that was local to me when new. Any details of previous owners, apart from HRH that is?

tabetha

The plate/plaque looks remarkably like the "no liabilty infered" plates stuck on cars after they were used for promtion and press purposes, in essence sold as seen by ford with no warranty, would not have been declared new at registration, can check this on V5.
It costs £5 to get previous history from DVLA, go on to thier site and download the form fill in and send off, if was owned by royal will say crown estate as owner.
tabetha

Iain Mac