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Old 20-09-2009, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Harris.
+1 . theres a few in the 30ks now
There have been cars changing hands for 40k plus
Old 20-09-2009, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
craig they will probably be worth 100k in 25 years and i,ll probably be dead lol

cheers james


Yeah but you will have spent 80k on it over the years lol.
Old 20-09-2009, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by craig2016
Yeah but you will have spent 80k on it over the years lol.
80k on polish lol

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 09:56 PM
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In a fuckin instant!

Life is just too short not to do the things you want to do when you get the oportunity!

I could do this and have thought very hard about doing so. I only have a single garage which currently has a resident I would never sell! Hence I am not able to (at the mo) !

Yes it might not make total sense moneywise, but is life all about money or what you do with it? Anyway you arnt going to loose money on the car unless you are an idiot so keep it for 5 years and sell it for more than you paid!
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
There have been cars changing hands for 40k plus

and how much were they new paul ,around 16k was it
no brainer


cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 09:57 PM
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why pay rs500 money.....

3 door with 500 bits.

Old 20-09-2009, 09:58 PM
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Remortgage a house to buy a car......................I don't think so, if something's beyond your reach then its beyond your reach, don't go risking it all just to have it, wether that's remortgaging your home or doing something that will get you 15 years


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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
The rs500 is going up and up in value all the time mate

Buy one asap while you still can

I pesonaly would

ps, wanna buy this



Stunning car mate. If that was mine there's no way i would be selling it.
Old 20-09-2009, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
and how much were they new paul ,around 16k was it
no brainer


cheers james

20k mate

so a good example is worth twice what they cost new , and they are going up and up by the day James
Old 20-09-2009, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RAT8OY
In a fuckin instant!

Life is just too short not to do the things you want to do when you get the oportunity!

I could do this and have thought very hard about doing so. I only have a single garage which currently has a resident I would never sell! Hence I am not able to (at the mo) !

Yes it might not make total sense moneywise, but is life all about money or what you do with it? Anyway you arnt going to loose money on the car unless you are an idiot so keep it for 5 years and sell it for more than you paid!


exactly lifes to short ,it would cost you more to smoke 20 fags a day


cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Remortgage a house to buy a car......................I don't think so, if something's beyond your reach then its beyond your reach, don't go risking it all just to have it, wether that's remortgaging your home or doing something that will get you 15 years


Luciano

But would you get a car on finance? do you own a credit card? not a dig at you but in life we all want things and sometimes you have to stretch yourself to get it, life would be easy otherwise .

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Originally Posted by Dannn
You would have to be a complete and utter tool to do that....

You clearly can't afford one so don't bother...

Plus what you going to do when it needs an engine rebuild, re-morgage again ?

What's the attraction with the RS500 - is it really worth paying all that money for a engine number and chassis number ? Just a car at the end of the day, nothing special about them IMO.

If you got a few quid spare at the end of the month why not save it or treat the wife (and kids if you got any) on a few one off extra's and/or arrange a few nice holidays.

More to life than a lump of metal sat in the garage - your family should come first which clearly would not be the case if you re-morgaged the house to buy a metal box.
I know it's your opinion but how can you come on a ford forum and say they are nothing special. They are one of the most stunning cars that Ford have ever produced. You mention the word Cosworth and they are top of the tree.
Old 20-09-2009, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
why pay rs500 money.....

3 door with 500 bits.

dave that would be my second choice mate ,stunning car

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
There have been cars changing hands for 40k plus

Well there you go then lol give paul 20k for his,if you fall in shit next year with the payments sell it and make 10/15k
Old 20-09-2009, 10:08 PM
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No way would i remortgage to buy a car but i have said to the wife on many an ocassion that if we won the lottery i would be straight down to see Paul @ NYRS spares and would be handing him a huge wedge of cash and driving home in an RS 500 !!

The car that is top of my wish list
Old 20-09-2009, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Remortgage a house to buy a car......................I don't think so, if something's beyond your reach then its beyond your reach, don't go risking it all just to have it, wether that's remortgaging your home or doing something that will get you 15 years


Luciano

thats it charlie i wouldnt risk my house to buy one never ever , i was just wondering what people thought of the idea .

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 10:14 PM
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Hi Paul

what's the brief ..

HISTORY

MILAGE

PRICE

the above via pm is fine
Old 20-09-2009, 10:23 PM
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could get killed tomoro so why the hell not, lifes to short to live in fear of a pile of bricks, get it and enjoy
Old 20-09-2009, 10:23 PM
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TBH if you really really want an RS500 and you can get finance then now is the time to do it, and nothing the "haters" say will make any difference.

But check what is the cheapest way to do it financially.

Yes remortgaging may seem cheap way of getting the cash on a "per monthly" rate but you want to be looking at the total amount repaid by the end of the term. Remember most mortgages over a 25 year term you can easily end up paying double the original loan amount.

A seperate unsecured loan may well be cheaper in long run. "secured" loans may work out ok if you can get a good APR and payback over a shortish term.
Old 20-09-2009, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by STAFFY OWNER
I know it's your opinion but how can you come on a ford forum and say they are nothing special. They are one of the most stunning cars that Ford have ever produced. You mention the word Cosworth and they are top of the tree.
I can come onto a ford forum and say what I want. I still techinally own a cossie and have spent (wasted) more money on it than most.

I, as I'm sure others do, look back and wonder what the fook I was doing. Spending money and getting obsessed over a fooking metal box. Just a car, albeit a Ford....nothing special really. I wished I had spent the money bumming around the planet seeing and experiencing a few things.

There is nothing special about an RS500 IMO, it's a modded three door...end of! There a thousand of three doors on the road...

Now the RS200 is special, there were only 200 made (may be a few more, were the EVO's part of the original count ?). So I kind of respect these but again don't think there worth the stupid money people claim there worth.

Personally if I ever wanted a car from that era and had money to burn I would track down a Peugeot 205 T16 or Audi Sport Quattro/S1.
Old 20-09-2009, 10:30 PM
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and dann whats a t16 or s1 quattro only modded 205,s and audi quattro,s

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
and dann whats a t16 or s1 quattro only modded 205,s and audi quattro,s

cheers james
LOL!! Just a "modded" 205....

http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/17838/index.html

Almost like saying an RS200 is a modded Sierra because they share the same windscreen!lol

How hard would it be to re-create that car ?

RS500 on the other hand, buy a 3 door and a few bits or just buy a 3 door which already has the RS500 bits!lol
Old 20-09-2009, 10:42 PM
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Dannn your on a loosing streak with this one For a start enthusiasts wont pay the wrong side of £30k for a sierra cosworth with rs500 parts on it Its the originality and rareity that fetchs the wonga.
Old 20-09-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dannn
LOL!! Just a "modded" 205....

http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/17838/index.html

Almost like saying an RS200 is a modded Sierra because they share the same windscreen!lol

How hard would it be to re-create that car ?

RS500 on the other hand, buy a 3 door and a few bits or just buy a 3 door which already has the RS500 bits!lol
dann ,dann,dann,blasphemy is punisable in hell mate lol,and yeah a t16 is only a modded 205 with a fiberglass wide arched kit like the ones in maxpower in my eyes

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
Dannn your on a loosing streak with this one For a start enthusiasts wont pay the wrong side of £30k for a sierra cosworth with rs500 parts on it Its the originality and rareity that fetchs the wonga.
I know that!

I just think someone that would pay that kind if money (espeically if they don't have the money) for what is just an engine and chassis number is a deluded fool. The peeps with 3 doors for half the money that look and perform like an RS500 have the right idea!l

As an investment I'm not convinced either. I reckon only original, mint, almost zero mileage examples will be worth something in the years to come. Even then I reckon there a risky investment as there is only a limited number people that obsessed with them.
Old 20-09-2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by craig2016
Naaaaaaaat!!!!!!

If you buy a 500 for £20000 and remortgage your house and it puts your mortgage up by £100 a month, thats £1200 per year say over 25 year. The RS is now costing you £30000.

Don't think its that sound an investment!
Well said thats what i was going to say not worth it imo

If you carnt afford it dont buy it, we have just cleared all our debt and was talking today about buying a new car but going to save for a few months then buy it


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Originally Posted by Dannn
The peeps with 3 doors for half the money that look and perform like an RS500 have the right idea!l.

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yes Dann but hes not buying it just because it looks like it does. Some people want the rarity and exclusivity of buying an original.

Same reason people still want original AC cobras despite the fact some replicas look the same, perform and handle better etc.
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Originally Posted by as355f1
you only have one life, live it !!!

Plenty more ways of 'living your life' than buying a 20k car and not using it that much, bar the odd show.

Is it really worth it? If you can't buy one outright, don't do it in my opinion.
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well said warren

cheers james
Old 20-09-2009, 11:49 PM
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I would re mortgage my house if it was a toy I relay wanted. As long as you can cover you payments. Look at the money people loose on brand new cars.
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Originally Posted by Dannn
I can come onto a ford forum and say what I want. I still techinally own a cossie and have spent (wasted) more money on it than most.

I, as I'm sure others do, look back and wonder what the fook I was doing. Spending money and getting obsessed over a fooking metal box. Just a car, albeit a Ford....nothing special really. I wished I had spent the money bumming around the planet seeing and experiencing a few things.

There is nothing special about an RS500 IMO, it's a modded three door...end of! There a thousand of three doors on the road...

Now the RS200 is special, there were only 200 made (may be a few more, were the EVO's part of the original count ?). So I kind of respect these but again don't think there worth the stupid money people claim there worth.

Personally if I ever wanted a car from that era and had money to burn I would track down a Peugeot 205 T16 or Audi Sport Quattro/S1.
Thats right Dannn it's your opinion and i'm not knocking it but as others have said it's all about the rarity and exclusivity of having a genuine RS500 that makes them stand out from other similar looking and performing models. With the Sierra cossies there is generally a pecking order; you have the Saphs then the 3 doors and finally the RS500s. From the factory they all perform fairly similarly but the 500 is still the most lusted after.

One thing that we don't disagree on is the RS200 a fantastic car and also legendary in the Ford history books.
Old 20-09-2009, 11:55 PM
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i think it would be a good investment to buy an rs500 to be honest, so yeah knock yourself out lol
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Get yourself a decent £20k bank loan
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I maybe would if it was for a small amount you needed to cover the diffference like under 10k, and you have loads in equity already on your home, i.e i only have about 80 grand left on my mortgage and with poterntially another 30 years to work so it's do able, BUT would i do it, probably not. I like the idea, but i think the only sensible thing i'd do is take money out from my house and invest it.
TBH full credit to you IF you do it, I don't think it's a silly idea at all, if you keep the car in a good state and have it insured as agreed value. I just don't like the idea of taking a risk like that, all be it a small one as i see it.
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Yes. And not quite sure why I haven't.

One day one will roll up at Barrett Jackson and fetch stupid cash and I'll regret not buying one. :P
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When I bought my first Cossie, it was with a remortgage. I had actually remortgaged to pay off a loan, but I accidentally spent part of the money on a Cossie
Old 21-09-2009, 08:12 AM
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Depends what you want from the car,do you want to drive it? because it seems that alot don't do many miles now for fear of it losing value.If its from an investment point of view then yes get one and just sit and watch it in your garage.
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Originally Posted by Dannn
You would have to be a complete and utter tool to do that....

You clearly can't afford one so don't bother...


How do you know he can't affoard - He obviously has a very large asset in his property and plenty of equity to play with to be even considering the option of a remortgage in the first place - regardless of what it is for.

Not everyone has 20k sat in a tin under the bed thesedays with money tied up in assets of which can easily be made fluid to fund things.

If he had put up "Remortgage so I can build a garage in my back yard" then you and everyone else would of said it's a good idea and a worthwhile investment

It's his money at the end of the day let him do what he wants - he asked for opinions on wether it would be a good idea considering the car in question is appreciating in value all the time now. He didn't ask for you to tell him he has no money when he clearly does
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Originally Posted by Graceland
How do you know he can't affoard - He obviously has a very large asset in his property and plenty of equity to play with to be even considering the option of a remortgage in the first place - regardless of what it is for.

Not everyone has 20k sat in a tin under the bed thesedays with money tied up in assets of which can easily be made fluid to fund things.

If he had put up "Remortgage so I can build a garage in my back yard" then you and everyone else would of said it's a good idea and a worthwhile investment

It's his money at the end of the day let him do what he wants - he asked for opinions on wether it would be a good idea considering the car in question is appreciating in value all the time now. He didn't ask for you to tell him he has no money when he clearly does
He asked for opinions and he got mine! IMO as an investment its total bollocks and people are kidding themselves if they think they are all going to be worth any more in the future...

Also by the fact he said it would only be a £100 a month extra a month on his mortgage tells me he can't really afford it. If he could afford it then he would either have the money in cash or take a short term loan (< 24 months).

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