CossieRich

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of course its no contest if you pick a baseline saph and compare it against a track prepped 3 door lol

johnandhissaffy

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get a nice moonstone sapphire put some satin black rims on little tune up on the yb sweet

BigErn

I almost sold my Sapph for a 3dr but decided against it. Ive never drove a 3dr but heard lots of people saying they dont handle so well and are nervous in comparison etc etc. That is what put me off to be honest as I love the way the sapph drives and the handling will be nicer once I sort out suspension and rear beam I hope. Until Ive had a proper go of a 3dr Ill always say Sapph. Depends on your driving style and if you want the "look" of a 3dr. I drive like a hooligan in mine so couldnt justify doing it to a 3dr cos they too pretty

BigErn

CRAIG HAYTER

[QUOTE=BigErn;4147223]I almost sold my Sapph for a 3dr but decided against it. Ive never drove a 3dr but heard lots of people saying they dont handle so well and are nervous in comparison etc etc. QUOTE]


a 3 door handles alot better in a sapphire bud trust mesapphires are more trickyer pull back in when doing some driftinga 3 door does it with ease not sure about the escort cos but let me get back to you on that one

CRAIG HAYTER

thats not a 3 door sierra looks like a 5 door to meand it has no back bumper

Mike1

.....just not on the original road tests though, the Sapphire was faster then. Less twitchy than the 3-door and didn't have that pitching/corkscrewing tendency in fast corners.

It's all fixable though

trevorcossie

thanks for the replys fellers ....i might add again i didnt crash mine someone else did and .i sold my one last saturday....now i can give it a while and have a think what i want......matt

marco polo

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but once you put a 2wd saff anti roll bar on job done

CRAIG HAYTER

what are you on aboutthe 3 door is overall better looks,handleing and same engine so why can the sapphire be better

SAVE ALL THE SHITE PAL GET A 3 DOOR SEIRRA COSWORTH AS THEY ARE BETTER LOOKING AND HANDLEING END OFF!!!!

ALSO SPEND A GOOD AMMOUNT TO GET A NICE LOW MILAGE ONE OR ONE THAT HAS HAD LOVING CARE

Nash

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Prefer my Saph over the 3dr, dont know why i just do.

Also the a saph shell is alot stiffer than a 3dr's.

KSA-Cossie

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This man knows what he's talking about.

BDBCOS

A good 3 door is twice the price of a good Saff, and a lot rarer. Much depends on budget and what you want to use it for. If someone had say £10000 to spend, a good 3 door would cost around that figure. If the engine was to go pop,would more cash be available to sort it?. If a £5000 Saff was to suffer an engine failure, there would theoretically still be £5000 in the pot to mend it. I went the 3 door route and had an engine failure. It cost me £5730 to get it put right properly. Luckily I had the means to be able to have the work carried out. It would seem to me that the reason that so many Cossies are getting broken is that people are buying cars that are not what they seem. When the worst happens as it often does, it would be hard to justify spending say £5000 on a car that cost £3-4000. Am I right or am I right?.

Twellsie

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but she's a mathematician

Mike1

Very true Nash.

Quite a few differences between a 3-door and a 2wd Sapphire in terms of suspension on standard cars.

There was a good interview with Rod Mansfield from SVE at the time of the launch about why they had made the various changes.
They could have kept the original 144mm rollcentre requested by Ford Motorsport for the 3-door but they also wanted to iron out some of the criticisms and flaws of the 3-door set up for road use ( although those flaws/criticisms were not valid to the same degree for track/motorsport use - and in some ways were an advantage over the Sapphire set-up )

BigErn

I know, I couldnt find a pic of a shit 3dr Sierra

CRAIG HAYTER

what sort of cash you looking to spendthis is what it boils down to pal

2wd

Hmmm...back in the days I would have been on your side and said..3door all the way...but then in 88' I saw the Saph. for the first time, and after that there was only one Cossie for me !!!!! So there it is ... THE BEST LOOKING COSSIE IS DEFFO. THE SAPH. COSWORTH .. without a question !

After almost 15 years with my Saph. it's still here... I have had plenty opotunities of getting either a 3door or a Escort and have tried them all...but no thanks...they dont come close to a Saph....maybe the Escort is a better handling car but thats all it has in my opinion..

So..put in Short... get a SAPH.

KSA-Cossie

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1st turbo

just bought me first sapphire cozzy... moonstone blue sapphire all the way.. good luck hunting

H7 CYA

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Would have to be a 3dr for me.. the original they just look so hard as standard, and the history behind it would make it a joy to step into!!3dr hands down!

FIESTA CHRIS H

I agree m8

CRAIG HAYTER

a sapphire isnt as rare as a 3 door or escosso it will hold better value plus look nicer hands down if you ask any proper gen person that doesnt or hasnt own one of these i bet they would say the 3 doorFACT!!!
iam not saying sapphires are not nice because they are really nice i am currently driving a my mates 4x4 sapphire cosworth and a 2wd till i finish my escos so i know what i talking about bud i have had sapphires and a 3 door and now an escos and also drive my mates bt escos aswellyou cant turn around and say a sapphire because the way it sounds to me you have only had a sapphire and havent owned a 3 door or escosask anyone thats had the lot pal and the 3 door and escos win all the time as i have said above i still love sapphires because its a cosworth at the end of the day going ask this q on the RS owners clubthey will tell you a 3 door but its all about how much you have to spend?


answer these qeustions

1.what will be worth more a sapphire or a 3 door hatch back cossie?
2.what has more carisma?
3.look at the sapphire owners most them have said sapphires?
4.whats the orignal cosworth?

CRAIG HAYTER

i bet all sapphire owners hate me but everyon has there own oppinion

CRAIG HAYTER

OR THIS

cossie604

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So what your basicaly saying is, if you can't count then buy a taxi?

nellyscossy

Ive had 2 saphs and two three doors....................ive just brought myself another....................................and the winner is..............
............3 door!!!!!.

cossie4i+

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Saph for a everyday car 3dr for best

Steve

tommytxr

got to be a 3dr

trevorcossie

i actually prefere the saff in this post

Harris.

Had both, and kept the 3 door ! even though the saf is/was a very nice car to drive ,felt saff and handled excellent. the 3 door is a little twitchie but only when your pushing it hard, learn and get to know the car and the 3 door is the best all round machine

leers85

saff allday long.

Mike1

......but not if you want a 4-door car


....and the more understated looks

woodside

exactly right - 3dr looks better - saph drives better

I would buy a 3dr for best tomorrow if I found the right one at a decent price on my doorstep - but cant be arsed looking around again - spending every weekend up and down the country.

I went 4x4 3dr 4x4 4x4 but always regret selling the 3dr not the safs - but needed the cash.

1st turbo

3 drs are nice...BUT a little bit tight for people in back if driver is a lump, not enough room.... mates have 3 dr nice but tight... sapphire all the way.. steve

2wd

He he...well all of us has our own taste...and thank god for that AND I feel that I'm a proper gen person and I will say this...I LOVE ALL COSWORTHS no doubt abut this ...!!!!..... but to answer your Q's first

1. what has that to do with a good Cossie..I have mine because it makes me feel good when driving, like the looks of it when it's just standing in my drive and so on...I'm not having mine for the money it MAY be worth...and here in DK there is not much difference in price anyway...but I know that they are worth more in GB, but I have explained my stands above

2. depence who you ask..and yes it looks radical, but to me also a bit old so you ask me and I really like the look of the saloon, but that me..

3. Here in DK they all are Sierra's, they are not Sapphires by name...I think that it's only in GB they are called like this....so mine is a Sierra Cosworth .. I only put in the Saph thing in my tag to be a smartass here in dk ... and all the 3door owners call their cars for...3doors..sooo cant see the difference ??

4. Well that is a good question ..if you read the book "Cosworth, the search for power" ... but as I said earlier...not important for me

Yes it is probertly more rare but that does not concern me as I have mine for what it is,... a F...... nice car And yes I have not owned a 3door...as I could not afford one back in 86-87...around £60-65000 here in DK oops...so you could say it's all about how much you want to spend ...but I have tried 3doors both modded and std...fine cars !!! BUT they got "old" ...for me.. in 88' ... I like the "timeless" look of the saloon so much more, they drive (in my opinion) better than the 3door, more practical ... so even if I had the money at that time, I would have sold it and got a "saloon" ...... so put in short again, in my world there is no doubt that this is the best allround Cossie ... (remember my opinion)

Also the escort is a great car, drives absolutly super (yes I have only tried them..but several times and cars), looks the nut's from the outside,...but there is just something inside that turns me off...and like the 3door...it lacks doors ......it's all about taste...so simple

You can ask all the people that you want...all they can do is give you their opinion and what they feel and respect for that....but MY opinion is as above

Bottomline is ..I would like one of each type, no doubt...but I'll bet that the "Saph" would clock up much more miles than the 2 others togeather ... by the way..the old white one has passed 330 K km this year ...

cossie*mad!

? ...because a saff looks so modern......
3 door is the most iconic cossie and will retain its value much better

costina

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Its all down to personal Taste i've driven them all and like the 2wd saff best

At the end of the day RUST is the big problem with any of them

Imo the only reason the 3dr and the escort are more expensive its cos theres less of them BUT that will change how many saffs get broken daily?

Paul

CRAIG HAYTER

thats because you have a sapphireand your not saneand its proberly your first cossie

lambos porkers etc etc dont do 4 door so thats why iam saying 3 door aswell

thats cos its a 3 doorthey dont have the same carisma

your from denmark you dont countoj budstill think your wrong imoa

CRAIG HAYTER

but 3 doors get broke aswell well bud lets put it this way my 3 door got sold for 14kyou would need a TOTAL MINTER WITH LOW MILAGE TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR THATdo your home work why dont sapphire owners just face the fkn facts