Bobby Singh

Hi all,

What kind of hp is possible with £4k to spend on a Evo FQ320?

Going to be used as a daliy driver so got to be 100%

Cheers
Bobby

MikeR

I would say easily 400bhp if not a fair bit more

Mike

RS Grant

iTrader: (1)

From what I've picked up on here and a couple of other places... 400/400 is pretty easily achievable on the later EVO models.


Cheers,
Grant

Bobby Singh

Ok so 400 is about the mark could someone give a breakdown of cost (is a rebuild required or just bolt on bits)

Cheers

Less.

Apt seem to be a good place to go

Christian and Beccy

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Engine will take 400bhp, maybe a little more. Getting that far on the standard injectors may be a struggle and to go for bigger injectors would really necessitate a management change, which might be a struggle on your budget.

Also, if it's on a standard Clutch, £1500 of that budget is already spoken for on a proper Clutch.

I think I'd fit an Evo 9 Turbo, Tubular Manifold, Cams, Boost Controller, Ecutek Remap and a Twin Plate Clutch.

That'd be about it for your £4k!!

leecavturbo

Engine will take 400bhp, maybe a little more. Getting that far on the standard injectors may be a struggle and to go for bigger injectors would really necessitate a management change, which might be a struggle on your budget. negative christian.

Also, if it's on a standard Clutch, £1500 of that budget is already spoken for on a proper Clutch. its more suck it and see. some are fine some not. budget is spot on tho
I think I'd fit an Evo 9 Turbo, Tubular Manifold, Cams, Boost Controller, Ecutek Remap and a Twin Plate Clutch. spot on, add zorst decat and walbro

That'd be about it for your £4k!!

RS Grant

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What size of injectors come as standard on these cars??

Can the EcuTek software not run a bigger set of injectors comfortably on Evos then?? Just that I know plenty of people happily running larger 600cc+ on Imprezas that use EcuTek software... although I think that when things go north of 500bhp people tend to change to SimTek, GEMS, etc.. which I assume means that the EcuTek maybe doesnt have the scope to go quite as far as proper aftermarket management.


Cheers,
Grant

Christian and Beccy

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Depends on how well you want it to run. What's your point there Lee?

Regarding the clutch, Evo's ARE heavy on clutches, also the flywheel shouldn't be refaced, so even if you decide to go down the route of a 'conventional' clutch, that'll still cost is excess of £800. It's an expensive gamble IMO that probably won't last. Also, whats the point of having 400bhp if the clutch can't take it and we all know that driven as intended, an Evo clutch WONT take the torque associated with 400bhp.

Yes, I forgot the incidentals you mentioned.

turbo_3dr_tommy

get on the mlr mate

would agree with christian on his post and if you can afford it deffo get a twin plate then you can launch it properly aswell

only thing i would do different i wouldnt get a EcuTek i would just get a EcuFlash off someone on the MLR its miles cheaper, I had mine done this year and very impressed with the results

turbo_3dr_tommy

Oh and APT know what they are talking about when ut comes to evo's just look at there time attack car its fooking awsome

leecavturbo

the std ecu will control 1000cc injectors perfectly

Staffi

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If it were me, i,d have an Ecutek done, Turbo back exhaust, clutch AND some brakes and if enough left over a nice suspension upgrade.

I,ve had 5 Evos...Lol, ok you,ll not make dead-on your 400 target, but it,ll be bloody close and with brakes, suspension it,ll be a hoot of a car.

Mine made 387bhp/381ft/lb when Ecuteked, made 480/460 after a MA Developments build mind you....

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

OK then, I must go and tell Gary to swap the 750cc injectors out that simply wouldnt run nicely for 1000cc's that will then??

Maybe our standard of what is classed as running nicely is just too high.

leecavturbo

i'm sure he know's why now . yes the 1000's will be better
i pm'd him some time back with ecu info

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

OK cool.

Hows your Evo anyway, you missing the Cav?

Big Will_

Bobby,

Our 'Stage 3' Package can be done for £1995 including a boost controller, VAT & Fitting.

http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/evo8tune.html

Should be a good 400/400 package assuming it's the MR edition?

Leaves £2k in the bank towards suspension/brakes/clutch mods

morph

iTrader: (1)

i would say 350bhp as 400bhp is not going to be good for dailey use!

leecavturbo

yeah not messed with it yet too much i'm sure i will tho eventually
the cav had some speed in a straight line but no
when is the escort debut ?

MikeR

It will be liverly for a daily use car but perfectly fine, mine was 384 and that was fine somewhat liverly but fine

Mike

Virdi

Sorry - what's 'MR Edition'?

Staffi

iTrader: (1)

Mitsubishi Racing.

Better cams, seats, etc from memory..

You also had FQ versions too....

Virdi

So what's better? FQ or MR?

Windle

i dissagree also!

i have just bought an evo 8 MR over the weekend with give or take 400 bhp at around 1.6 bar and it drives like any other car for dailey use, lively enough off boost not laggy at all and goes like fook when you want it its a perfect everyday car!

as above 260 bhp for the uk one then you can get fq300 320, 330 340 360 and the daddy 400 mine started off life as a FQ320

MR gives you bigger turbo, cams etc and is a bit lghter and has much better interior and darkend headlights, look in the gallery i have just put mine in there

Windle

MR is an addition to the FQ range. Fq300 MR is better than an Fq300. you can't get a none FQ version of the MR

RS Grant

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They start to bend rods past a certain point as well dont they?? Seem to remember 400bhp sticking in my head regarding the boost needed to get there and people saying that pushing things past this level would require stronger rods. (...and possibly machined stock/aftermarket pistons?)


Cheers,
Grant

Si B

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I'm on 575 bhp at the fly on standard ECU and 1000cc injectors.

Nothing wrong with standard management if you go to the right people

For £1k drive in drive out, you can get a Rod job off Norris Designs - good for up to 550 bhp on standard pistons.

Decent turbo like an FP Green on S205 or even a RED and you're knocking on 450-550 bhp as long as supporting mods are covered (decat, pump, 3" exhaust and elbow, plugs air filter etc)

Add a decent clutch (£1000+ for a twin plate) bigger injectors (£300 new) and a few odds and sods and I reckon you'll have maxed your £4k budget, but have a good working 450+ bhp

Best to get a car with some mods on it already, buying all parts brand new they are pricey. Buying 2nd hand is far cheaper when you know what you're looking for and at!

Si

Bobby Singh

Some REALLY good advice and tips here PF at its best thanks guys

Bobby

KEVFRST

Just sold my MR FQ320 2 weeks ago and miss it deeply. MR also has the Ally roof to save weight too.

Windle

as above i paid good money for the MR edition and has already had the pump, air filter and full 3 inch exhaust and remap done.

PT

GT lol