removing locking wheel nuts - no key
09-02-2009, 03:07 PM
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removing locking wheel nuts - no key
I've 'STUPIDLY' lost the key for my locking wheel nuts. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to remove them?
So far I have tried holding a 19mm nut into place and welding it to the locker. I cant get enough penetration and the weld just snaps if i put any force on it.
I dont think there is enough space to hammer on a socket, and i'm running out of ideas
So far I have tried holding a 19mm nut into place and welding it to the locker. I cant get enough penetration and the weld just snaps if i put any force on it.
I dont think there is enough space to hammer on a socket, and i'm running out of ideas
09-02-2009, 03:28 PM
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I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel.
A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least
A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least
09-02-2009, 03:52 PM
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Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on
09-02-2009, 04:08 PM
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Or I've seen a mate just hammer a smaller nut onto the locker so it's tight as fook, then just unscrew as normal
09-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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Those wld be great but the bolt is approx 1mm smaller than the hole. So theres no space to hammer anythign on or use the stadard removal tools. Local garage can do it so I'll just let them get on with it. 4 hours at it today is enough for me.
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09-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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Had a similar problem just last weekend as had a puncture and locking nut had got slightly chewed so the special socket kept slipping off.
Pair of grazed knuckles later, made a trip to Halfords with the special socket and found a multi-faced socket (not normal hex) 2mm smaller than a normal nut Ł3-4. Hit it on with the patented "pursuader" i.e. a BIG hammer
then attached the long armed wheel brace. Bob's you uncle 
Suppose it depends on what nuts (oo-er
) you've got on it. Mine uses an adaptor socket to fit into the normal (19mm) socket on the wheel brace so had enough room to put a normal socket on. If its actually a key you are missing then probably going to be a job to get off without the room to put a socket on. Hope you sort it
Pair of grazed knuckles later, made a trip to Halfords with the special socket and found a multi-faced socket (not normal hex) 2mm smaller than a normal nut Ł3-4. Hit it on with the patented "pursuader" i.e. a BIG hammer
then attached the long armed wheel brace. Bob's you uncle Suppose it depends on what nuts (oo-er
) you've got on it. Mine uses an adaptor socket to fit into the normal (19mm) socket on the wheel brace so had enough room to put a normal socket on. If its actually a key you are missing then probably going to be a job to get off without the room to put a socket on. Hope you sort it
09-02-2009, 06:50 PM
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09-02-2009, 08:18 PM
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I'm really wondering if some of you bother reading the thread, or just the title. This isn;t the first time I've done this, and I'm not exactly stupid.
I cant whack a socket onto it. That was my first try. Then welded nuts to it, no good. 2mrw, I'm gonna get an air chisel into it.
And if that doesnt work, I'm taking it to the garage that said they can do it, getting them to agree a price, then handing it over
I cant whack a socket onto it. That was my first try. Then welded nuts to it, no good. 2mrw, I'm gonna get an air chisel into it.
And if that doesnt work, I'm taking it to the garage that said they can do it, getting them to agree a price, then handing it over
09-02-2009, 08:20 PM
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just finding my feet
when its loose then tap it off again, you think thats a pain, wait till you have to remove a spherical bearing from a tube when removing it from a rear arm
that was a bitch but was done
that was a bitch but was done
09-02-2009, 08:42 PM
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I had a ford locking wheel nut and it was impossible to remove. Tyres places, my mechanic, an engineer bloke all had a go and no luck.
The nut was to cwide in the whole and not deep enough to get anything on it and dig in.
In the end I took it to Ford and paid 40/50 quid to have them remove all the wheel nuts lol!! apparently I couldn't just buy the nut, they had to have it in to see which one it was.
Not sure if yours is a factory job, but was less hassle to cough up than try and remove it.
The nut was to cwide in the whole and not deep enough to get anything on it and dig in.
In the end I took it to Ford and paid 40/50 quid to have them remove all the wheel nuts lol!! apparently I couldn't just buy the nut, they had to have it in to see which one it was.
Not sure if yours is a factory job, but was less hassle to cough up than try and remove it.
but he got the job done 
08-12-2009, 05:27 PM
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i got a problem with locking wheel nuts, theres sum wheels at the scrappy and i want em but theyve got locking nuts, they are outy 3 pin ones, and i actually have the same type of key but it seems my key is too small or the pins are too close together, can anyone recomend a tool for this type of nut? i dont want to waste loads of money on loadsa tools.
i thought about using a socket which is just too small and covers the 3 pins but wont that just snap the pins? please help someone cos theyr cheap and i wan em!!
i thought about using a socket which is just too small and covers the 3 pins but wont that just snap the pins? please help someone cos theyr cheap and i wan em!!
08-12-2009, 05:45 PM
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i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy
and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key
and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key
08-12-2009, 05:45 PM
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yeah but the outer edge of the nut is round so the socket aint gona grip is it. fuckit im just gona look for some other wheels. any1 know of any 4 stud 14's for a vw?
Y did i dig it up? cos i found it at the top of google and well it mite help someone else who got the same problem .
Y did i dig it up? cos i found it at the top of google and well it mite help someone else who got the same problem .
08-12-2009, 05:48 PM
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