Fudgey

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i think she uses this board (focus bird)???

http://www.ffoc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53920


only 200bhp tho

SapphyMike

cant beat a bit of compound charging

Porkie

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Lots of extra weight and complication and if thats a 2.0 its only got a specific output of 100bhp per litre... you can get that from a n/a engine!

Adam_BlackRS

Bit low for a 2.0 turbo+Supercharger ?

CabrioTurbo

for memory its only a 1.8...
200bhp isnt that bad...but its a bit of a weird thing to do if you ask me.. when there would be more power available by either going for a bigger S/C or just using the turbo!

CabrioTurbo

Im certain it still has chocolate pistons and the original compression ratio too

Fudgey

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well im nearly at 200bhp with a n/a 2.0l zetec.

i think hers is a 1.8 tho, not sure on internals, but it says she had 220bhp with JUST the supercharger!?!

fair bit of tourque tho, would be difficult to get that from a n/a wouldnt it??

CraigN

zetec head is restrictive in std form is it not ?

it does seem like a lot of money has been spent for not a lot of gain

the sort of thing lewis would do just to say ive got a supercharger and a tbo

nice car tho

B19-TRB

oi!

my car had a lot of gain over standard! & i spent fook all on the engine itself!

Your shit box ready for the weekend!? u got directions yet!? what time we goin!? i am goin out fri night so am gunna b fooked!!

RSeb

fudgey bit off topic but ive been thinking about this for a while ive got another mk5 lined up and dont know weather to go 2.0l zetec big valve head throttle boddies etc or just opt for a fiesta turbo lump, all depending on price to power gains, what sort a mods you runnin an has it been worth the money, again im looking at 200 bhp figures? cheers dude

Oranoco

[quote="CraigN"]zetec head is restrictive in std form is it not ?
/quote]

Nope According to a very trustworthy source the exhaust side of the head is particulary good actually

CraigN

in which from of zetec engine

i know the older ones are restrictive for anything over 300hp

Fudgey

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hello mate, currently my car is a 2.0l zetec, Fse powerboost valve, piper cross viper induction, Focus ST170 4-2-1 manifold and a dastek unichip

in a few weeks time it will have modded suzuki GSXR 42mm throttle bodies, cossie injectors and SECS S8 ecu (unichip + viper will be for sale)

then when i get some more cash it will have some fast road cams, and modded head

HTH

extra17

yep ruth does come on here, sure she will see this post and reply

RSeb

so you not sellin up for the 3 door any more then

Phil

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I bet the toqrue curve is very nice though!!!

RSeb

you will have to let us know when ur ready to move them bits on mate im sure i can sort out some mulla for em

Fudgey

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no mate, not yet lol, basically i had arranged the sale to a guy i know, for £4k, the 3 door was £3.5k, plus £500 to trailor it back from aberdean.

and it still needed a front bumper, front seats, front screen, and other stuff, and i would have needed a cheap shitter for work etc....

plus my missus said i gotta pay out on stuff for the wedding by the end of the year, rings, suit hire etc....

so couldnt afford it in the end, bit gutted but one day ill have a cossy!

hopefully tho im gonna have an interview soon, and if i get the job i get a company vehicle, so the car will have to go anyway

but it will make room for the esc cos!!!

RSeb

gutted mate all in good time tho, ah the joys of marriage got all that on at the mo aswell weddin is less than 4 weeks away now!!!


did you manage to see (i think) a copy of performance ford last month all about zetec tuning its what i want to do but seems like the expensive route just dont think i want another turbo

Fudgey

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was that the supercharged one??

there is a place nearish to me that will take £3.5 and return your car with a low comp s/c nailed on, i think the place is in sailsbury

RSeb

nah it was in the tech pull out, all about modded heads at CHD, throttle bodies, high comp pistons etc

Fudgey

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lol, didnt see it then mate, i dont very often buy any mags tho...

focusbird

oooooooo thought my ears were burning.

In answer to questions about internals (oo-er) yes they have been strengthened, new pistons (modified for lowered compression) and forged steel arrow H section conrods, amongst other things.

I've lost some bhp because I've put a standard head on it, cracked the ported/polished thing I got from Cylinder Head Developments, and didn't have the money to throw at another. I used to get 222bhp with just the supercharger, but only 164 lbs/ft torque.

If you read the thread on FFOC you'll see that I said it was done just to see if it was possible and how it'd work, PE weren't even sure it would work when they started the job. We knew we wouldn't get much more bhp out of it because the supercharger is restricting the turbo (turbo feeds the supercharger - if it was the other way around apparently it'd be better) and I've tried it with my Focus cos no one has done it before on a Focus

Drives lovely, you can really notice the torque. There's bound to be people saying "oooo not much power considering blah blah blah" but I couldn't care less. At the end of the day, it's my everyday car so as long as it's driveable I'm happy

RSeb

ooohh check you

Stavros

your momma too, and your daday?

you bastard, now i got that lame old Daphne and Celeste song stuck in my head

hooked_on_boost

Didnt a guy at Power Engineering have a Fiesta running turbo and s/c? I heard that was quick?

focusbird

Yes, Chris Todd - that's who did mine. His Fiesta was turboed, supercharged and had nitrous. It was 324bhp and 320 lbs/ft torque, and ran a 12.4 1/4 mile The supercharger feeds the turbo on his Fiesta, on mine it's the other way around because of where the Jackson Racing supercharger (which was already fitted) is mounted.

Stavros

If the supercharger was big enough, it being after the turbo wouldnt be a problem at all, but the jackson charger you got is pretty small.

You sure its really restricting it tho?

I mean, piddly lil RST T3 on it cant flow that much more anyhow, what boost you running?

A .63 T34 From an EscCos with the fueling to match and i bet youl find the s/c isnt as restrictive as you think...

Fastmaul

Focus Bird, just saw you in an American magazine!

Rob

Correct me if I'm wrong but the jackson racing supercharger is eaton M90 yes? if so it's more than big enough. even if it's the M62 I'd say it's big enough I run a M90 on mine and that's on a 2.9 V6 trust me it's capable of supplying plenty of air. especially when you think it shifts 1.32 litres of air per revolution (88% VE).

All I will say is mine is around the 240bhp mark (with similar torque) and the torque is amazing going from 2,000 rpm up to redline, the blower offers muchos usuable power, the characteristics of the roots superchargers is very cool compared to most run of the mill turbo road cars. I'd say the car is still prolly quicker and more drivable than most other turbo setups with 20-50 bhp more, or atleast should be.

Nice car BTW, if you wanna screw more out of the supercharger you can, which usually drops ACT's down and increases VE (volumetric effieciency) so you end up running a lil more boost It's simply from a lil bit of porting and flowing of the casing. Could even do it DIY if you're inclined that way

Rob

Stavros

Nice one Rob! And im right again too, blimey charley, what a suprise

focusbird

Mine's only an M45 JR Supercharger, if I'd thought about doing all this to it when I put it on, I would have opted for a larger one (but size isn't everything )

Will have to check, but I think I'm running 16psi I remember being told to not "go silly" with it, cos I don't want to break it

Stavros

16psi thru a piddly RST T3 explains the power level then.

The M45 isnt the restriction, its just the sorta power 16psi on a RST T3 gives, if it could take it then youd see a lot more with a good sized turbo if you wanted it.

Cool car by the way

focusbird

I know, but it's the money side of things - just skint at the mo.

I'd love to do it properly with a bigger turbo & bigger supercharger....maybe I will one day