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Old 16-12-2008, 03:11 PM
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Whats concidered a far percentage of depreciation on electrical good, in this case Home entertainment AV gear. 20-30% or am I way out? your views please.
Old 16-12-2008, 03:15 PM
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50 id say does depend on age tho spose, i paid 650 for our 42" 6 months ago i spose id be lucky to get 250 for it now
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WAY out! 70%+
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this item has a new value £300 and 6-12 months old.

I know what ya mean about tv's I wanna replace my 32" lcd (2yrs old) but its worthless... Want a sony bravia 40"
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Is this related to your previous post about Home Cinema Danny? What is it you're looking to buy?

As above, most stuff I'd say would be closer to 70-80% depreciation. Everything gets superceded so quickly with new models every year, it's only Ebay that makes you think your stuff is worth anything!
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70%????? maybe I should look at the high end stuff then and pick up a real deal.. I guess at the moment the higher end products will be taking more of a knock.
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Still looking at receivers etc so thinking about looking for a better model but used, I know there no warranty etc but do they realy go wrong? Dont think I have ever used a warranty in my life.
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It's going to be that one time you need it though, sods law!

Have you had a look around av forums classifieds?

Or wait until after christmas and see what deals your local richer sounds are doing?
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Is this related to your previous post about Home Cinema Danny? What is it you're looking to buy?

As above, most stuff I'd say would be closer to 70-80% depreciation. Everything gets superceded so quickly with new models every year, it's only Ebay that makes you think your stuff is worth anything!


I can get the Onkyo HTR518 5.1 AV Receiver used for £135 delivered but I have seen it new for £190, this will do everything I want but I had a budget in might of around £270-300 on receiver... do I buy this as was only after 5.1 anyway and put more money in speakers.?
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I had to do a quick google to check the model but it looks a really good one for the price!

This place works out £175 with the VAt, new [didn't look at delivery?]. http://www.avsl.co.uk/shop/htr518-bl...06-p-9598.html

I think it's worth spending on some good speakers and budget at the VERY least 10% for decent cabling and connections
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Originally Posted by Paddy
I had to do a quick google to check the model but it looks a really good one for the price!

This place works out £175 with the VAt, new [didn't look at delivery?]. http://www.avsl.co.uk/shop/htr518-bl...06-p-9598.html

I think it's worth spending on some good speakers and budget at the VERY least 10% for decent cabling and connections

They estimate shipping at £8 so its around £183 with vat total.
It does look to do the right things, I just had the TXSR606 in my mind though but thinking they are features I dont really need. The misses aint happy about 5 speakers and a sub let alone 7!!!haha.
It does add the speaker budget and cabling like you mention. HMMM!!!!!
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danny i let me know what model and i'll get you a price.
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Originally Posted by Ryan
danny i let me know what model and i'll get you a price.

can you get a price on the TX-SR506 that compares to this 518 i been offer but need to let guy know tonight.
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Originally Posted by Danny B
can you get a price on the TX-SR506 that compares to this 518 i been offer but need to let guy know tonight.
I dunno , I remember when you did interesting posts about roll

cages, ladder bars,60 foot times etc...............

puddy
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Originally Posted by 999
50 id say does depend on age tho spose, i paid 650 for our 42" 6 months ago i spose id be lucky to get 250 for it now
I paid 3k for my 42 inch panasonic plasma 3 years ago now it is worth fook all
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sorry danny wont be able to find out till tommorrow as you let me know too late, he works 9-5 at sony.
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Originally Posted by puddy
I dunno , I remember when you did interesting posts about roll

cages, ladder bars,60 foot times etc...............

puddy

Ha ha that made me chuckle.... the good old days.
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WELL I gone and done a deal on the Onkyo HTR518 5.1 AV Receiver, its 2 months old with the purchase invoice and has 22months warranty left on it. Paid £130 so couldn't really turn it down.

No need to decide on some decent 5.1 surround speakers and sub. They need to look nice or be small if that makes sense to keep the misses happy. any ideas?
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Originally Posted by Danny B
No need to decide on some decent 5.1 surround speakers and sub. They need to look nice or be small if that makes sense to keep the misses happy. any ideas?
The funkiest looking "small" speakers, in my opinion are the egg shaped KEFs! Richer sounds are doing the ones below for £399.99 [with a Sub], so you should be able to pick them up for £250 used? Someone I know uses them and they pack a punch considering the size! [they come in silver too if your missus likes shiny things]. Read some reviews though in case they're not what you're after.



And as for cable, the QED stuff is great imo.
Old 17-12-2008, 09:08 AM
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I personally see electrical goods as comsumables and will only replace them when they break so depreciation is not a factor for me. The reason whythey do depreciate so much is because as soon as you buy the new model, they bring a 'newer model out after a few weeks or so. Same with phones. So if you want to be upto date and 'down with it' it will cost you fortune
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Originally Posted by Paddy
The funkiest looking "small" speakers, in my opinion are the egg shaped KEFs! Richer sounds are doing the ones below for £399.99 [with a Sub], so you should be able to pick them up for £250 used? Someone I know uses them and they pack a punch considering the size! [they come in silver too if your missus likes shiny things]. Read some reviews though in case they're not what you're after.



And as for cable, the QED stuff is great imo.

sorry but they look awful !
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
I paid 3k for my 42 inch panasonic plasma 3 years ago now it is worth fook all
ditto

paid £1700 for my 50" lg plasma about 2 1/2 years ago and now you can get the new equivalent model for £700 brand new. Means it would be worth no more than £200-£300.

You could nearly get one of the top of the range pioneers for £1700 now. Thats next on my list next sep anyway
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cheers Paddy, they look quite nice, will have a look at some reviews, personally some nice floor standers would be nice but dont think she'd go for it.
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Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
sorry but they look awful !
They certainly have to be integrated into the right room and wouldn't suit most people's homes, including mine! Not my bag either for a living room set-up but if choice is limited to something small [e.g if your missus doesn't want massive things like Danny's, or you want surround in a bedroom] there isn't much better available imo.

Originally Posted by Danny B
cheers Paddy, they look quite nice, will have a look at some reviews, personally some nice floor standers would be nice but dont think she'd go for it.
If you're going to use the same speakers for CDs/iPods etc. you will be best off with floor standers. As you probably know, the amp you're buying is capable of just transmitting stereo and you'll get a MUCH better sound with a decent set of floorstanders as they're able to cope better with the full range of sound.

I bought my Acoustic Energy set-up a few years ago now and it was quite a few quid at the time, I just had a look on the bay and this is basically the same set-up [but I stupidly went for a darker finish ] makes me sick looking at the price though BASTARDS

If you can swing it, that is a phenomenal set-up for around £250? The KEF won't come close for the punchy sound and you may not even need a sub [lik I said, I fucked mine a while ago and I haven't missed it much, the floorstanders kick out a fair amount of bass which is fine for most music and car chases in films]


To be honest though, for the money now to replace my set up I'd be looking at some of the Mordaunt Short 900 series stuff, which are great for stereo and a bit more refined.
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Originally Posted by Paddy
The funkiest looking "small" speakers, in my opinion are the egg shaped KEFs! Richer sounds are doing the ones below for £399.99 [with a Sub], so you should be able to pick them up for £250 used? Someone I know uses them and they pack a punch considering the size! [they come in silver too if your missus likes shiny things]. Read some reviews though in case they're not what you're after.



And as for cable, the QED stuff is great imo.
Superfi are doing these for £249 now, brand new i paid £400 in october

they sound awesome imo
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Paddy those AE's would be idea, they'll actually go with furniture also! lol, think it might be a case of me buying it all and installing it while she out, then its done! haha.
will keep an eye on the AE's, postage a little steep but only 2hrs away so could collect, will make a 'quality' bargain system.
I like the look of the mordaunt short 900 series. theres some infinty orous packages on ebay also which get good ratings.
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