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Old 29-06-2008, 09:57 AM
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Default Focus ST vs Focus RS

What would you choose? and why..

Ask me a year ago and i would shout foucs RS everytime. However the ST's looks have grown on me, (especially in white and red).

The ST probably drives better and seems to have as many upgrades available, it sounds better in my opinion to. Maybe the ST is a better car after all??? Ohh and with the right alloys i think some ST's look better than the RS

Can anyone post pics of the their ST'S ??

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Old 29-06-2008, 09:59 AM
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ive been thinking the same thing lately

whats the best out of the??

i keep swaying towards the RS
Old 29-06-2008, 10:00 AM
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FRS All day..
Old 29-06-2008, 10:04 AM
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we need pics here to compare,

but ithink i prefer the RS aswell,
Old 29-06-2008, 10:06 AM
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Focus didnt impress me that much it was quick.....be quicker if the wheels didnt spin up whenever the turbo does
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I am not a big fan of the ST Maybe the new shape RS??
Old 29-06-2008, 10:15 AM
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i remember seeing a white FRS and it looked stunning

would that affect the price much??? because it's not the original colour
Old 29-06-2008, 10:31 AM
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Stevie cossie has just made a good point -- the focus st comes in different colours however the RS would require a full respray, i think this would dent the re-sale price
Old 29-06-2008, 10:49 AM
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I drove both cars back to back for a mini test in Fast Ford a year or so ago, and the RS is by FAR the better track car. The ST is a little too soft and the brakes are rubbish for such a performance car. Combined with the lack of a proper diff (it uses an open one with electronic traction control), it's built to a budget and the Renault Megane (turbo) is a much better car (if you want to compare similar age / value). IMO, as usual of late, Ford dropped the ball. The new Focus RS (with just bolt on parts to the ST), with proper brakes, a Quaife ATB, new "Revo" front suspension, new exhaust manifold and turbo, different management and uprated suspension is the car the ST should have always been. If you can afford the Ł25k for one of these, and it has to be a Ford, this is the car to get .
Old 29-06-2008, 10:51 AM
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Focus RS.......
Old 29-06-2008, 10:59 AM
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RS for me. Here is one in white

Old 29-06-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nobbycossie
RS for me. Here is one in white


i fuckin love this car mate

who owns it?? is it yours???
Old 29-06-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Statey
Focus didnt impress me that much it was quick.....be quicker if the wheels didnt spin up whenever the turbo does
So you have never driven one then!
Old 29-06-2008, 11:14 AM
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ST cause it doesn't have a ford engine
Old 29-06-2008, 11:17 AM
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FRS everytime
Old 29-06-2008, 11:32 AM
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Wow shocked at what Mr Rainbird has said above!! i assume you know your cars like the back of your hand, but still shocked you have slated the ST . Nice to see a point of technical point of view tho... track use aside , for everyday use.. i guess you will still choose the RS??

Ps FAO mr Rainbird what has the stronger engine , ST or RS?? - which engine would withstand the most abuse?...

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Old 29-06-2008, 11:49 AM
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ST for me, as I'd already had 2 Mk1 Focus's and didn't want another, plus I wanted somthing newer with more toys, like heated front screen.

I also found the ST more comfortable than the RS, maybe im just getting old
Old 29-06-2008, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by steviecossie
i fuckin love this car mate

who owns it?? is it yours???
i wish!!!!
Old 29-06-2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FasterFords
ST for me, as I'd already had 2 Mk1 Focus's and didn't want another, plus I wanted somthing newer with more toys, like heated front screen.

I also found the ST more comfortable than the RS, maybe im just getting old
where either of the mk1 focus's an rs?
Old 29-06-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nobbycossie
RS for me. Here is one in white

mmmmm a respray me thinks
Old 29-06-2008, 02:06 PM
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It does look in white, as does the ST.
Old 29-06-2008, 02:11 PM
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RS looks good, ST looks wank.
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ST for everyday, RS for the track
Old 29-06-2008, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
ST for everyday, RS for the track
as he said

as they are 2 different cars if you want a everyday car with all the mod cons get a ST
but if you like the raw power an a good track day car the RS is the one
an the added bonus they can be used an abused everyday an will not break down on you all the time

oh yeah who was that saying about spinning all the time lol
not had a go in many then i guess as they dont spin all the time there prity sweet with the trick diff















till it rains
Old 29-06-2008, 02:56 PM
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my old mans got a 350 bhp focus st with a quaife diff, had a go in it the other day, just feels so heavy! hope they make the new focus rs alot lighter than the st, otherwise pointless putting an rs badge on it, might aswell call it the focus st-4
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Originally Posted by Magnex20011
Wow shocked at what Mr Rainbird has said above!! i assume you know your cars like the back of your hand, but still shocked you have slated the ST . Nice to see a point of technical point of view tho... track use aside , for everyday use.. i guess you will still choose the RS??

Ps FAO mr Rainbird what has the stronger engine , ST or RS?? - which engine would withstand the most abuse?...
I don't like "soft" cars, so yes, I personally would chose the RS. The ST has more tuning potential, as it is a 2.5 litre 5 cylinder, so doesn't take a genius to work that out . Hopefully someone will put a tuned ST engine in the FRS MkI, as that would be an awesome car .

The problem with all replacement models now-a-days, is that they are ALWAYS heavier then the preceeding car, in order to comply with ever stringent crash test requirements. This means that the performance is ever more diluted, or takes a big power increase just to keep par with the previous model.

Ford unfortunately has no intentions to 4wd the current generation Focus, but the next one will have a 4wd platform and it will be down to the "bean counters" to decide which way tp jump - therefore don't expect one, and even if they do, it will be a backward step compared to the forth-coming FRS, due to more cost cutting power-plant wise .

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Old 29-06-2008, 04:40 PM
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Focus RS for me it seems every other car is an ST they look bland and "mass produced" if you know what I mean, the Focus RS looks special saw one today as I headed onto the M1 and on the road they look and personally the blue is perfect.
Old 29-06-2008, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by focuschivvy
where either of the mk1 focus's an rs?
no, 1st was a 1.8 Zetec then a ST170

I have driven a few FRS's though, including at Gaydon round the test track at a pre launch day.
Old 29-06-2008, 05:51 PM
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my st3
with a few mods.
st for everyday use,road manners are awesome but rs if you fancy tracking it
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Old 29-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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Focus rs every time ..........The st looks boring and when i went in friends one it felt boring too
Old 29-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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Focus RS for me really,

Its more raw and has better presence than the current st,
Surely a heated windscreen could be retro fitted into it to make it a perfect (dry) all rounder?
Old 29-06-2008, 06:16 PM
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Had a St it was great, however given the choice which i would have now it would be the RS.
Old 29-06-2008, 07:05 PM
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the rs is more of a aggresive car not so much of a everyday car were the st is more common and got all the mod cons. the rs handles very well and so does the st but not half as good so the rs is a real drivers car
Old 29-06-2008, 07:11 PM
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Gotta be the ST, as I've just bought one, but tried many FRS before I decided to go for the ST.
As far as I'm concerned, the ST alround was far better, with more pontential.
here is mine


Cheers, Mike
Old 29-06-2008, 07:22 PM
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Driven both very hard, own one version. Focus RS a more thrilling ride all round, and its built with Ford engineering, derived from rally heritage...the other one's just a Volvo...
Old 29-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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Leon RS.

You have found passionford at last, WELCOME


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Old 29-06-2008, 07:30 PM
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I would have the RS all day long, Driven both did not like the ST


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hi dave love your car mate
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