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steven mc kay 20-02-2008 09:37 PM

bean head hi mate got suspension sorted mike sent it back cuple of weeks ago so got the car back on the road again but a have a few plans to change to ohllins have to talk to mike . :top:

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 09:40 PM

rapid cossie not much good with computers dont no how to put photos up mate will try soon

rapidcossie 20-02-2008 09:41 PM

if you can email the pics then I could put them up for you?

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 09:44 PM

b19dfp hi mate got the bara box at moment but to be honest havent risked launching it yet caus a have seen what dave has done to his dont no what to do next will have to talk to harvey and mike any ideas.

abdr500 20-02-2008 09:45 PM

i have my own built escort cosworth is this some thing that any one could come or just selceted ones i also have 500 bhp

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 09:49 PM

rapid cossie pm me ur email address mate and a will take photos tomorra mate and mail them to you that would be very kind thanks :top:

rapidcossie 20-02-2008 09:54 PM

pm'd :D

Rod-Tarry 20-02-2008 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Shead

Originally Posted by Rudey
doubting? i think youve been round long enough with a proven track record to not give a fuck mate :cool:

Yes still saying my figs are fake and the latest is Rods engine is a low spec engine with a big turbo :eek: I mean why would I biuld it deliberatly low spec :cry: .

Mark

What will they say if 800bhp is breached Mark. :cry: .
I would love a contest to decide who has the most Power.

Danny @ Enhanced Performance 20-02-2008 09:55 PM

abdr everyone welcome mate in gonna try and get this sorted.......steven mc kay i know where your coming from weve got a bara box on one of ours if your reasonably gentle think its a good box but get saving for 1 of martoons os giken conversions cos youve got alot of power wich is gonna break that box when you start launching hard......still cant wait to see this go against some lesser powered cars that are less of a handfull

Danny @ Enhanced Performance 20-02-2008 10:03 PM

to mad rod there will be another saph out there by the end of this year with 850+bhp for the soul purpose of top speed only so lets wait and see if it can get anywhere near your top speed.........

RichardPON 20-02-2008 10:03 PM

So after all these posts, did anyone identify who actually said that MAD engines don't make the power?

Or was it that no-one said it, and it was just an excuse to post some more advertising on the internet!

Perish the thought! :cry:

Martin-Hadland 20-02-2008 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by MadRod
What will they say if 800bhp is breached Mark. :cry: .
I would love a contest to decide who has the most Power.

Did you really write that Rod? You sound like a 12 year old :cry: Not everyone WANTS more power you know!!!

charlie luciano 20-02-2008 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Rudey
i do wonder why mike doesnt become a tuner with his vast knowledge?


Because its a lot easier to earn a profit from selling bits than it is to be fucking around building engines,

engine buliding=hard graft ;)


Luciano

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 10:29 PM

hi martoon what u suggest about a gear box mate mine is same as daves a think . problem is a still want it driveable on the road. but a would like to be able to launch it to a no a want my cake and to eat it.

Martin-Hadland 20-02-2008 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by steven mc kay
hi martoon what u suggest about a gear box mate mine is same as daves a think . problem is a still want it driveable on the road. but a would like to be able to launch it to a no a want my cake and to eat it.

Probably a Skyline R33 5 speed or and R34 6 speed, both synchro and last quite well in tuned Skybuses which are heavier. Will put some thought into it for you..

Chip 20-02-2008 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by b19 dfp
to mad rod there will be another saph out there by the end of this year with 850+bhp for the soul purpose of top speed only so lets wait and see if it can get anywhere near your top speed.........

Sounds interesting :D

A genuine 850+ held for the the whole run would easily walk past Rod's previous record, although might need to be quite a big "+" to beat his new spec.

Would be awesome to have some real competition back for the saph record though, case as things are, Rod has kind of killed the whole sport off for the last couple of years :cry:

Chip 20-02-2008 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by martin-reyland

Originally Posted by steven mc kay
hi martoon what u suggest about a gear box mate mine is same as daves a think . problem is a still want it driveable on the road. but a would like to be able to launch it to a no a want my cake and to eat it.

Probably a Skyline R33 5 speed or and R34 6 speed, both synchro and last quite well in tuned Skybuses which are heavier. Will put some thought into it for you..

I really think the skyline box (ie the normal road one) could inject a whole new lease of life into the escort scene, im sure currently there are a LOT of people with capped power effectively cause they dont want the risks or compromises of the existing box choices.

Would be great if you started churning out an easy conversion kit for these boxes.

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 10:50 PM

thanks martoon like the sounds of the 6 speed will give u pm in a cuple of weeks mate is the r34 6 speed what u have in your car switch able from 2 til4 wd :D

Martin-Hadland 20-02-2008 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by steven mc kay
thanks martoon like the sounds of the 6 speed will give u pm in a cuple of weeks mate is the r34 6 speed what u have in your car switch able from 2 til4 wd :D

No I have a sequential dog box in mine, The R34 6 speed is a synchro box but is still switchable like mine.

bud-weis 20-02-2008 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by RichardPON
So after all these posts, did anyone identify who actually said that MAD engines don't make the power?

Or was it that no-one said it, and it was just an excuse to post some more advertising on the internet!

Perish the thought! :cry:

Exactly! :?

In all my time posting here, i think MAD is probably the only tuner i've NOT seen people pointing the finger at?

Mike questions everything....but that's his way, he'd argue the Earth was round if he didn't know any better ;) :cry:

But i wouldn't say he doubts them...just likes to see a level playing field.

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 11:07 PM

martoon sequential is when u move stick back and forwards if yes can u still have synchro as well that would save time changeing gears .

Martin-Hadland 20-02-2008 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by steven mc kay
martoon sequential is when u move stick back and forwards if yes can u still have synchro as well that would save time changeing gears .

Give me a call when you get a mo and I will run through some options with you..

steven mc kay 20-02-2008 11:12 PM

thanks martoon will phone u soon ....

Gatecrasher 21-02-2008 01:11 AM

Martin can the split be adjusted in the os geek skyline box so it is the same as a standard escos, can this be set so it is like it all the time?

also is a 9" rear and 7/7.5" front the only sensible options or can Skylines or some other diffs be moded to fit?

Chip 21-02-2008 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Martin can the split be adjusted in the os geek skyline box so it is the same as a standard escos?

As far as im aware the VC in the standard escos box means it doesnt really have a fixed split effectively, it can vary.

The skyline one can be controlled via a PWM input, so its capable of being effectively anything you want it to be, including fully RWD!

Gatecrasher 21-02-2008 01:22 AM

to put it another way then can the skyline box be made to feel and drive the same as an escos then :oops:

i have driven a few skylines and i dont like the way it feels like its rear wheel drive and then the front kicks in, if you know what i mean? :?

what im getting at is i like the way the escort feels and drives and wouldnt want to swap it for a Sequential box only for it to feel, handle and drive like a Skyline...

Benni 21-02-2008 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by b19 dfp
to mad rod there will be another saph out there by the end of this year with 850+bhp for the soul purpose of top speed only so lets wait and see if it can get anywhere near your top speed.........

Whatever happens, be sure to make a "Project" thread mate, I like many others would be very, very interested to see it develop.

Benni. :eek: :top:

tabetha 21-02-2008 06:51 AM

It doesn't matter WHO you are, if you are GOOD or BAD, there are so many opinions, from so many people, every tuner is likely to have dissatisfied customers, and happy ones.
I can't see why you are bothering myself to come on here to "prove" a point that COULD be faked, not saying it is, just that the possibilty is there for anyone to do, so any disbeleivers are still going to be disbeleivers!!
tabetha

Martin-Hadland 21-02-2008 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
to put it another way then can the skyline box be made to feel and drive the same as an escos then :oops:

Yes no problem but the bonus is that you can add or remove drive to the front to suit the conditions..

Fagin 21-02-2008 07:08 AM

What is with all you guys taking part in interbred cock fighting?!?!? :?

If you have so many big bhp cars, wtf don't you get a TOTB team together and cock fight against other marques (or some other form of competion team thing)! :cry:

It seems that everyone has 500+bhp until they either take it on a dyno or more importantly actually use it in anger...... that does not include going down the shops or a sunday drive. :cry:

P.S. These comments are not aimed at the people that ACTUALLY do put their cars up for proper use (and you certainly know who you are :top: ).

P.P.S. These comments have nothing to do with MAD's initial post either! :)

Mark Shead 21-02-2008 07:12 AM

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Bullett 21-02-2008 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by steven mc kay
for martin . thanks for the coment not much goob way computers. for dave spec mate lined block nick waples head scs spec cams scs spec seceret turbo wrc breather swedish inlet wrc fuel rails 8 greys pectal t6 pectal moniter stack dash custom pro intercoler 2 raditors like mike r custom h s exhaust ahmed rear beam adj tca water injection ap 6pots front ap 4 pots rear with cool custom carier for origanal caliper for hand break thanks martin for that mo6 spokes in white and gold quiff rear and front diff thick wall caseing bara box soon to come out tall 5 put in ready for next years daddy thrash top speed run .680 bhp on carlane race fuel 650 on super unleded.


:eek: wow,what a spec,this sounds like an awesome bit of kit.will be very interested to see this standing let alone posting times ;)
lets hope this all works out and we get a good show.

i also wonder how many other big power cars are hiding or developing that we dont know about :? could be a good year coming up :DD:

Mark Shead 21-02-2008 07:16 AM

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CossieRich 21-02-2008 07:17 AM

Must get mine on the rollers to see if the old skool way of doing things still cuts its :DD:

Mark Shead 21-02-2008 07:17 AM

Heres for Mike boost which is less than I remeberb and power at wheels.

Mark

Bullett 21-02-2008 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Fagin
What is with all you guys taking part in interbred cock fighting?!?!? :?

If you have so many big bhp cars, wtf don't you get a TOTB team together and cock fight against other marques (or some other form of competion team thing)! :cry:

It seems that everyone has 500+bhp until they either take it on a dyno or more importantly actually use it in anger...... that does not include going down the shops or a sunday drive. :cry:

P.S. These comments are not aimed at the people that ACTUALLY do put their cars up for proper use (and you certainly know who you are :top: ).

P.P.S. These comments have nothing to do with MAD's initial post either! :)

i kind of see where you are coming from mate,but i do sometimes think that some people have spent that amount to get there and then cant afford to rebuild,replace boxes etc if the worst happens.so they dont use them for launching/top speed etc. just my thoughts ;)

Martin-Hadland 21-02-2008 07:40 AM

Not having a pop so don't take it the wrong way, but am interested in the comparison ... How do the engine dyno figures compare? The graphs posted make the engine look like it's quite lazy up to the 4k area is that representative?

Cossie Helen 21-02-2008 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by CossieRich
Must get mine on the rollers to see if the old skool way of doing things still cuts its :DD:


Surrey Group have a RR Day in March ? Can put you name down ;)

Mark Shead 21-02-2008 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Not having a pop so don't take it the wrong way, but am interested in the comparison ... How do the engine dyno figures compare? The graphs posted make the engine look like it's quite lazy up to the 4k area is that representitive?

The power run is done in 3rd gear unlike the Dyno which lets you stablise the boost, It would bring in the boost earlier in 4th.

Mark

Martin-Hadland 21-02-2008 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Mark Shead

Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Not having a pop so don't take it the wrong way, but am interested in the comparison ... How do the engine dyno figures compare? The graphs posted make the engine look like it's quite lazy up to the 4k area is that representitive?

The power run is done in 3rd gear unlike the Dyno which lets you stablise the boost, It would bring in the boost earlier in 4th.

Mark

Why not do it in 4th then as surely the customer will do so on the road?


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