anyone know anything about LS V8 engines ?
10-12-2007, 09:50 PM
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anyone know anything about LS V8 engines ?
the basic sort like LS1 ect, been looking at them at work but ran out of info and they are interesting me,,,, ment to be a good design too and seem to tick a few boxes i like
wanna know about tuning, general info blag blah and what management suits them ect ect ect
wanna know about tuning, general info blag blah and what management suits them ect ect ect
10-12-2007, 09:57 PM
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decent engines, 6bolt mains (well, 4 main bolts and 2 side ones), strong, do good power, etc.
any managment suits them, like any engine.
this car is LS1 powered... (with a supercharger too tho)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQXEz06v7s
can get other and bigger LS engines too, up to 7 litres.
500odd bhp as standard on an LS7.
pretty basic pushrod cam in block engines, but thats all you need.
700odd bhp on stock LS1 internals when turbod.
mega cheap to buy and tune compared to smaller engines, but still nowhere near as cheap as if you used an older but just as good Chevy or Ford V8.
any managment suits them, like any engine.
this car is LS1 powered... (with a supercharger too tho)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQXEz06v7s
can get other and bigger LS engines too, up to 7 litres.
500odd bhp as standard on an LS7.
pretty basic pushrod cam in block engines, but thats all you need.
700odd bhp on stock LS1 internals when turbod.
mega cheap to buy and tune compared to smaller engines, but still nowhere near as cheap as if you used an older but just as good Chevy or Ford V8.
10-12-2007, 09:58 PM
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Available in various sizes, from 5.7 to 7.0 litres
Power ranges from about 300 to over 500.
6 bolt mains caps are pure porn, single cam, 2 valves per cylinder.
PUKKA motors, and barely any heavier than a YB!
Normally fitted to a tremec T56 which is kind of a cossie gearboxes big brother basically, 6 speed.
Power ranges from about 300 to over 500.
6 bolt mains caps are pure porn, single cam, 2 valves per cylinder.
PUKKA motors, and barely any heavier than a YB!
Normally fitted to a tremec T56 which is kind of a cossie gearboxes big brother basically, 6 speed.
10-12-2007, 10:02 PM
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steve i was thinking of size and weight too, LS being alloy is a little lighter
not sure about turboing one,,,, like like the simpleness of em tbh
thinking 400bhp with as much touque should be able from a LS1 with some mods rather than strap problems to it
the sound nice too
600bhp,, be pukka driving that round central london to work im sure
they sound a great idea though,,, wondering why more people aint thinking like this hence learning
they aint elephant engines like the old hemi's, they alloy now too,, aint sure on price of em ( though thats the bit thats gonna sting i bet )
they ALOT smaller than a M5 engine too height wise it seems
why aint they being used more ?
not sure about turboing one,,,, like like the simpleness of em tbh
thinking 400bhp with as much touque should be able from a LS1 with some mods rather than strap problems to it
the sound nice too
600bhp,, be pukka driving that round central london to work im sure
they sound a great idea though,,, wondering why more people aint thinking like this hence learning
they aint elephant engines like the old hemi's, they alloy now too,, aint sure on price of em ( though thats the bit thats gonna sting i bet
)they ALOT smaller than a M5 engine too height wise it seems
why aint they being used more ?
10-12-2007, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Available in various sizes, from 5.7 to 7.0 litres
Power ranges from about 300 to over 500.
6 bolt mains caps are pure porn, single cam, 2 valves per cylinder.
PUKKA motors, and barely any heavier than a YB!
Normally fitted to a tremec T56 which is kind of a cossie gearboxes big brother basically, 6 speed.
Power ranges from about 300 to over 500.
6 bolt mains caps are pure porn, single cam, 2 valves per cylinder.
PUKKA motors, and barely any heavier than a YB!
Normally fitted to a tremec T56 which is kind of a cossie gearboxes big brother basically, 6 speed.
the gearbox is another reason to wonder why people aint using em
10-12-2007, 10:08 PM
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LOADS of people use them.
Just not so much in the UK, as nobody uses V8s in the UK really.
But as V8s go, they quite common in the UK.
TBH iron small block V8s dont weigh fuck all either really, once alloy heads are on em, doubt youd notice much difference, esp in a road car.
Reason they not used loads is same as any V8, the bigger the engine the more grief it is to fit it. And people dont like grief in the UK, they like shit that just bolts straight in.
BUT the grief is fuck all IMO as long as your fitting it in something with a decent sized bay, value for money a yank V8 and box is still better than almost anything else.
LS1s in to BMWs is pretty common anyhow, i mean...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=LS1+BMW
Just not so much in the UK, as nobody uses V8s in the UK really.
But as V8s go, they quite common in the UK.
TBH iron small block V8s dont weigh fuck all either really, once alloy heads are on em, doubt youd notice much difference, esp in a road car.
Reason they not used loads is same as any V8, the bigger the engine the more grief it is to fit it. And people dont like grief in the UK, they like shit that just bolts straight in.
BUT the grief is fuck all IMO as long as your fitting it in something with a decent sized bay, value for money a yank V8 and box is still better than almost anything else.
LS1s in to BMWs is pretty common anyhow, i mean...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=LS1+BMW
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10-12-2007, 10:11 PM
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I work on them a little as the LS1 and LS2 are used in the Monaro's. Ive also driven/worked on an aftermarket supercharger conversion as well as the vxr500 jobby...both go well. Engine liked by the yank tank lovers either way...have you tried one of their forums for info??
10-12-2007, 10:15 PM
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steve in was reading a ls1 conversion from someone in the states but he seems to have modded the sump to make it fit and its L/hand drive also,, was worried about that part
they seem the best option for big bay cars,,, mines a 6 pot anyway so its longer than a V8 im sure and theres gonna be most room available
was hoping i might be able to get the engine almosy inline maybe behind the front wheel a little too and benifit it
just at the " pointless silly idea that will never happen" stage at the min though
they seem the best option for big bay cars,,, mines a 6 pot anyway so its longer than a V8 im sure and theres gonna be most room available
was hoping i might be able to get the engine almosy inline maybe behind the front wheel a little too and benifit it
just at the " pointless silly idea that will never happen" stage at the min though
10-12-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie604
I work on them a little as the LS1 and LS2 are used in the Monaro's. Ive also driven/worked on an aftermarket supercharger conversion as well as the vxr500 jobby...both go well. Engine liked by the yank tank lovers either way...have you tried one of their forums for info??
Try searching for a Holden owners forum for info m8 as thats the Monaro's parental name/make 
11-12-2007, 06:41 PM
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Theres some1 that comes on here got one supercharged in a green granada 
Seen it go down the pod it does 10 second runs!!!!
Thats got a T56 6 speed in it,road goin trim too
Seen it go down the pod it does 10 second runs!!!!
Thats got a T56 6 speed in it,road goin trim too
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11-12-2007, 06:53 PM
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the 6 speed t56 is a good box, but it really needs 3.9's otherwise 6th is useless until higher speeds.
i very rarely even use fifth over here as you just cant do the higher speeds like you can there, plus i love the popping and farting it makes on lift off from my twin x-force exhaust
i very rarely even use fifth over here as you just cant do the higher speeds like you can there, plus i love the popping and farting it makes on lift off from my twin x-force exhaust
11-12-2007, 06:55 PM
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pops how is the accleration like compared to the cossie you NEVER took me out in even though you promised
is it more fun or a little like shagging a porn star then going back to the missus
is it more fun or a little like shagging a porn star then going back to the missus
11-12-2007, 07:08 PM
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its defo not as quick as the 3dr
and power comes in a lot different as theres no turbo,but all in all i would say its surprising how fast they actually go once remapped, i reckon mine could proberly do 5 to 5 1/2 to sixty in the right conditions which aint bad for a car weighing 1600 kilo's.
what i love about this engine though is the torque it has, put your foot down in any gear and it just goes, plus the engine sounds sweet, defo not as sweet as the old v8's though.
a lot of tuners over here remapped them back to open loop over here, not sure why though, mainly after you start opening the engine up and putting cam's in
if i had the choice between the 2 i would always choose the ute over the 3dr, much nicer to drive
and power comes in a lot different as theres no turbo,but all in all i would say its surprising how fast they actually go once remapped, i reckon mine could proberly do 5 to 5 1/2 to sixty in the right conditions which aint bad for a car weighing 1600 kilo's.
what i love about this engine though is the torque it has, put your foot down in any gear and it just goes, plus the engine sounds sweet, defo not as sweet as the old v8's though.
a lot of tuners over here remapped them back to open loop over here, not sure why though, mainly after you start opening the engine up and putting cam's in
if i had the choice between the 2 i would always choose the ute over the 3dr, much nicer to drive
11-12-2007, 07:10 PM
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11-12-2007, 07:21 PM
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pops ig you had the choice over here, i know you like motorways and fun ect, infact your driving interest is similer to mine from what i remember and the way im changing
im toying with either cossie or V8 LS engine ideas ( bet i just buy a fucking boxster in the end )
the LS engine sounds too good a deal,,,, similer money for conversions for similer power too but the V8 seems the better deal for reliabulity,,,, im thinking id rather have a mock tudor mansion than acually hundred year old building if the was the same in every other way
im toying with either cossie or V8 LS engine ideas ( bet i just buy a fucking boxster in the end
)the LS engine sounds too good a deal,,,, similer money for conversions for similer power too but the V8 seems the better deal for reliabulity,,,, im thinking id rather have a mock tudor mansion than acually hundred year old building if the was the same in every other way
11-12-2007, 07:27 PM
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i reckon i'd still go with the V8
but then im not into modding cars as such any more and mine as it is remapped ( apart from wheels and lowering ) is good enough for me nowdays
but then im not into modding cars as such any more and mine as it is remapped ( apart from wheels and lowering ) is good enough for me nowdays
11-12-2007, 07:35 PM
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pops i miss the grin factor of my cossie, will the v8 bring it back or will i feel " its ok but the grass aint as green"
telling me your turned intoa orange old fart aint gonna steering me the direction i want
telling me your turned intoa orange old fart aint gonna steering me the direction i want
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