Nitrous is it cheating
28-09-2004, 03:03 PM
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jim i got my oldd graph here for my stg 3 i got 130lbft at 2k 3500 i got 200lbft then at 5k i got 320lbft with 350bhp then stu alterd that map for more low down tourque but that was the chip it did 12.7 on 
but it revs far quicker than the v6 i soon have 320lbft 
but it revs far quicker than the v6 i soon have 320lbft
what i have been saying
28-09-2004, 03:16 PM
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My personal view is this....
I do not see nitrous as cheating as a way of getting faster acceleration out of a car
What I do see as cheating (IMO) is power figures that include nitrous, for example;
you have an engine that makes say, 600bhp, and you also have 150bhp of gas.... Yes you do have a total power output at your disposal of 750bhp, but IMO you don't have a 750bhp engine, you have a 600bhp engine.... Make any sense to anyone other than me?
Just the way I see it......
I do not see nitrous as cheating as a way of getting faster acceleration out of a car
What I do see as cheating (IMO) is power figures that include nitrous, for example;
you have an engine that makes say, 600bhp, and you also have 150bhp of gas.... Yes you do have a total power output at your disposal of 750bhp, but IMO you don't have a 750bhp engine, you have a 600bhp engine.... Make any sense to anyone other than me?
Just the way I see it......
28-09-2004, 03:21 PM
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sod it i'll race ya... rulses are as follows:
1) you're NOT allowed to launch, granny pullaways only...
2) you're not alowed to rev above 2.5k
3) youre not aloowed to use more than 50% throttle
who want a race
like i said lee, its my opinion thats all, just coz i dont like em it dont make em shit
i'd LOVE to won a car like yours... just wouldnt drive it to work and back every day 
1) you're NOT allowed to launch, granny pullaways only...
2) you're not alowed to rev above 2.5k
3) youre not aloowed to use more than 50% throttle
who want a race
like i said lee, its my opinion thats all, just coz i dont like em it dont make em shit
i'd LOVE to won a car like yours... just wouldnt drive it to work and back every day
28-09-2004, 03:29 PM
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I reckon on a part throttle race, no rules for either car barring the throttle had somthing to stop it opening more than about 2/3 or 3/4, my old cossie would rip your car up, could easy pull 6000rpm+ in 5th and sit on the bumper of a 225bhp model 
TT from 70 to its maximum speed (150 odd), all on part throttle, could easy see 23/25psi on part throttle.
But then it was light and P8 has good part throttle mapping, i know when it was on L6 and full weight it wasnt all that amazing.
TT from 70 to its maximum speed (150 odd), all on part throttle, could easy see 23/25psi on part throttle.But then it was light and P8 has good part throttle mapping, i know when it was on L6 and full weight it wasnt all that amazing.
28-09-2004, 03:32 PM
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lets be honest Jim the cossie you drove was not right, will take ya out in mine soon and scare ya silly!!
NOS to me in not cheating but my personal preference is to find the power another way, such as big turbo etc. I can however understand people using Gas to push the envelope in cars like Jims or big power cars where it becomes more economical.
NOS to me in not cheating but my personal preference is to find the power another way, such as big turbo etc. I can however understand people using Gas to push the envelope in cars like Jims or big power cars where it becomes more economical.
28-09-2004, 03:35 PM
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NOS isnt cheating as u have to have it all mapped in etc etc corretly to make it work.
I would love nos bet erm i would use a bottle of nos to a tank of fuel
I would love nos bet erm i would use a bottle of nos to a tank of fuel
28-09-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
like i said lee, its my opinion thats all, just coz i dont like em it dont make em shit i'd LOVE to won a car like yours... just wouldnt drive it to work and back every day
i'd LOVE to won a car like yours... just wouldnt drive it to work and back every day Drive my car to work??? not even my mad crack smoking cousin Angus Mcmad, winner of last years mad award would want to drive my Sierra to work
Its NOT a nice road car!!! nice road engine though actually, very tractable believe it or not....
28-09-2004, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
"Ł479 for 40 minutes work, how do you sleep"
28-09-2004, 04:09 PM
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Its been stated that Nitrous is expensive im not so sure.
At Brunters used 2m 24s Nitrous all day (have timer).
Only 15s on each of 3 Topspeed runs as it was used in 4TH/5TH only. The remaining 1m 39s included 10/12 Full bore launches to 150+.
Thats 1 1/2 bottles so around Ł90 . Race Fuel would have cost as much i think.
Dont really need it on the road , but its only a switch away & have several programmes in the progressive to choose from.
People who are not impressed by the use of Nitrous aint been in one, the hit at 100 as you switch it on is a real adrenalin kick ,as yet all Mark & i do is laugh as it happens its like afterburners i love it.
Have not yet experimented with the limits of Nitrous, but their is a Cossie abroad that has 650bhp + 300 shot in a drag car.
At Brunters used 2m 24s Nitrous all day (have timer).
Only 15s on each of 3 Topspeed runs as it was used in 4TH/5TH only. The remaining 1m 39s included 10/12 Full bore launches to 150+.
Thats 1 1/2 bottles so around Ł90 . Race Fuel would have cost as much i think.
Dont really need it on the road , but its only a switch away & have several programmes in the progressive to choose from.
People who are not impressed by the use of Nitrous aint been in one, the hit at 100 as you switch it on is a real adrenalin kick ,as yet all Mark & i do is laugh as it happens its like afterburners i love it.
Have not yet experimented with the limits of Nitrous, but their is a Cossie abroad that has 650bhp + 300 shot in a drag car.
28-09-2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
"Ł479 for 40 minutes work, how do you sleep"
Or some flash fucking bed thing that my Missus got from Ikea
Probably cost the same 
28-09-2004, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
their is a Cossie abroad that has 650bhp + 300 shot in a drag car.
And il jus say it again for no real reason, NOS is better than having 2 maps, one for road use and one with race fuel to actually give you some power.
Tooo many "road" cars these days need to be running race fuel to have any power.
Infact someone i knwo very well has a car like that, 1.2bar max on pump fuel, 2bar+ and literally 100s of bhp more on race fuel...
Id never have a car like that, i like having a road car.
28-09-2004, 04:52 PM
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Nos cheating on your honda ricer with no engine mods and ugly body huge wheels etc.
But not on car with a high power engine and you can use for a powerboost when the turbo is not at fullboost or for cooling.
If it was my car i do't want nos in my car.
But not on car with a high power engine and you can use for a powerboost when the turbo is not at fullboost or for cooling.
If it was my car i do't want nos in my car.
28-09-2004, 04:54 PM
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i like nos , as long as someone else is paying for it
rod you say its not cheap , for teh amount you have used thats a lot of money over a years events , but in your defence you gave your reasons for it , so that suits you fine you gained what you wanted
for me , i would want to build the engine to give the output i require , not to have another expendable option to gain that power - fookin petrol is expensive enough without haveing something more expensive being used at the same rate !!!
rod you say its not cheap , for teh amount you have used thats a lot of money over a years events , but in your defence you gave your reasons for it , so that suits you fine
you gained what you wanted for me , i would want to build the engine to give the output i require , not to have another expendable option to gain that power - fookin petrol is expensive enough without haveing something more expensive being used at the same rate !!!
28-09-2004, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
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for me , i would want to build the engine to give the output i require , not to have another expendable option to gain that power - fookin petrol is expensive enough without haveing something more expensive being used at the same rate !!!
for me , i would want to build the engine to give the output i require , not to have another expendable option to gain that power - fookin petrol is expensive enough without haveing something more expensive being used at the same rate !!!
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28-09-2004, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Switch
Rhys in your sig- dont you mean "reducing lag, not drag??"
I founf that quote on the saxo BB and thought it was funny as fook
28-09-2004, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RS500
Nos cheating on your honda ricer with no engine mods and ugly body huge wheels etc.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Honda dont need NOS mate plenty of bits to make em go very fast
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