...i am now of a strong belief that a trader can NOT be a moderator.


Who is with me on OUR site funded by US Gold Members/Traders?

 

sounds fair to me, cos if they do sell something and it turns out to be "tat" they can ban them if they do like critsism(spelling) recieved !!

 

your only upset as mike rainbird keeps banning you

 

www.Grumpycunt.com - Life is one big disapointment. You should join up Phil.

 

or what happens when i ban you ! you cant go crying to mike

 

 

so that backfired on you then phil ...

 

 

did Pete ban him.

is the thread still here or has that been binned.

 

Much as I like Phil getting flack ....... I think he has a point.

From my own experience.. I know that "xxxxxxx" used his powers to
ensure a thread involving an argument with me stayed in GD to serve his
own trade and personal views while clearly braking a few rules.
Water under the bridge now but it happened.

However, at the end of the day this is Stu's website and he runs it as he
wants and we have to respect that.

 

i agree. conflict of interest.

 

markk

how did the lesson go Mark.

 

cancelled due to lack of visibility

i was just putting the number in on the security gate to get in as well

go to wait till june now

 

AGREE 110% WITH YA PHIL

 

i agree apart from mike rainbird as hes too straight and upstanding to be included in it

moderators should be members who actually contribute to the site too and not just on here for the fun of it

having a trader as a mod is a fucking DUMB idea as not all traders are honest people

the most sucessfull business men are fucking crooks in one way or another

 

You cant tar all trader/moderators with the same brush though, Mike was kinda "elected" to deal with phil and his "rivals" so he is going to get most of the flack.

Other trader/mods like Paddy for instance arent as active as others here so would be unfair to remove him from the webteam because of the behaviour of others wouldnt it?

 

andy its only fair though, i like paddy and hes NOT a problem on here, hes a very inteligent man who thinks before he acts and hes not self centred at all

but he has powers that he can abuse if he required,,, now hes never had a situation where thats happened but soon as one mod does that then tbh the criteria needs to be looked at

i cant work for a rival company due to conflict of interest,,, just cause it takes one time to cause the problem

 

I wondered why there was so many posts about me

 

Sounds like Stu had best fuck off from the website he has worked so hard to build up then


What a load of fuss over nothing, the mods on here do a great job most of the time I reckon

 

chip id guess its based on something thats happened on here

stu is the actual site,, he wont do anything to help give him the upper hand and its HES site

the other mods who are traders will be thinking of there business first then the sites interest second

where theres that worry then whats the obvious answer gonna be ???

 

I dont see a problem with it, ive never seen any moderator particuarly take the piss with it.

You do realise that just cause one person involved in a thread is a mod doesnt stop all the other mods still doing as they see fit anyway?

So if for example Mike choose to not act as a moderator against me cause it suited his business to do so or whatever, the like of Jay and robbie still would just get on with it anyway as they dont give a fuck about such things.


I dont think there is any conflict of interests which has ever been a problem on here to any great extent.



What exactly can a moderator do to help his business that wouldnt be obvious to the others mods and over ruled straight away anyway?

 

thanks chip what you said is about right and the way i see it a trader/mod has to be impartail more so than just a mod and the fact that WE are just humans that will make the odd mistake which will not be life threatening but can be sorted and learnt from , as PHIL forever say's this is only the internet

 

Ok,

I think what I said may have come across slightly wrong.

I do NOT tar every moderator with the same brush and fully appreciate
what a ball ache of a job it can be to do.

I have had a bad experience on here myself which is why I have spoken up.
Its just my opinion, you are all free to ignore it

Just in case there is some confusion , I fully respect the way Stu runs this
site and appreciate all his hard work too. (thought I said that before )

I am not a trader, can I be a mod ? LOL

Ginge, strange you should pick that particular person to exclude

 

well i know the mod refered to spent long enough worrying about his business and aint on here for the comunity spirit but just the business he gets

i doubt hes owned a performance car or gone to a show/meet for years if at all

which is why i belive that situations like this could cause a conflict of interest

its a bit like giving simon the job as post master general

 

oh my sides hurt

 

Why do you feel like that? Whats your reasoning behind it mate?

 

REASONING?

From Phil?

 

And so the site should be funded by the traders, you're the ones making wads of cash from selling 2nd hand junk


Luciano

 

A moderator is supposed to be unbiased and protect the best interests of the forum, while you have traders who are also moderators there is the opportunity for abuse.

Take for example, if someone is making negative comments regarding a trader these threads can go on for a few pages and its important information that the enthusiast community should be aware of however making negative comments regarding a trader who is also a moderator could result in the thread being closed even though it breaks no rules or the thread starter being watched for an opportunity for a revenge ban.

Im not suggesting that this has happened, only that I believe the opportunity for abuse is there simply because the moderator has the ability to look after their own interests as well as the forums rather than remain unbiased and because of this I personally agree with Phil

 

A perfect reply Its like having a kiddie forum here and putting Chip in charge of it

..but admin dont care,do they?

 

I think Phil is right

 

Il 2nd that

 

So Stu (as a trader and head moderator / admin) should never have started this site and we should all just fuck off then?


I think Stu proves that there is no problem in people beingboth a moderator and a trader.

 

Chip i think your find that Stu does NOT moderate this site

 

I think you will find that he always has done, and now has appointed people to help him do so as he no longer has the time to do it himself.

Without Stu (the trader) moderating this site so well from early on, it wouldnt have ever been such a good site IMHO

 

i think you will find he still DOES .....

UnseenMenace..

as said moderators should act with total impartiality (and learn how to spell ) if this upsets people who think they can get away with saying or doing what they want then tough... unfortunatly some moderators are more active at looking for these issues and are the ones that often seem to get the stick once things go wrong.
and i agree with everything you have stated above.

if i do not agree with another mods decisions i will say so to them and have no issues in doing so, why should we be seen to be above the rules that we have said we will uphold. if a trader/moderator was to be seen constantly flouting thses rules to aid their own good then i am certain stu would soon do something about it.

 

Or maybe Stu thinks before he posts or acts, something that some dont do.

 

...but then he is admin/trader...does that mean he pays traders fees? ...He is the big cheese.

 

PHil you still operating a keyboard wothout thinking ! stu does more moderating than youll ever know

OH and how many weeks is your next ban phil ? as one more coment about chip and kids youll be serving it as i have warned you 3 times in the last 6 weeks

 

With it being his site, does it really matter whether he pay's trader fee's, As I am certain he has put more into this place than your trader fee ever will.

PS - Jay is a cabbage